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Old 06-05-2009   #1 (permalink)
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Twist the key and it takes a couple of seconds for starter to kick in when cold.
Whats the problem?
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If this is a GT, then the ignition switch is going. You can either remove it and send it to OGTS to be rebuilt, or you can run a couple of wires from the starter through the firewall to a hidden rocker switch, that the next time this happens, you just leave the key in the "run" position, then hit the hidden switch and she fires. Sorta like cars back in the 40's
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If this is a GT, then the ignition switch is going. You can either remove it and send it to OGTS to be rebuilt, or you can run a couple of wires from the starter through the firewall to a hidden rocker switch, that the next time this happens, you just leave the key in the "run" position, then hit the hidden switch and she fires. Sorta like cars back in the 40's
Gene, we're across the "pond" from Tony. I thought about the switch but never knew it to be temperature sensitive. Your idea about the starter button though if it "fixes" the problem would let Tony know if he needed to get another one or send his off to be repaired.

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Gene, we're across the "pond" from Tony. I thought about the switch but never knew it to be temperature sensitive. Your idea about the starter button though if it "fixes" the problem would let Tony know if he needed to get another one or send his off to be repaired.

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Harold;
My mentioning about the starter button idea is for those who don't want to try and remove their steering wheel and possible booger up the steering shaft, just to get the ignition switch out. Heck, I've been through two columns just to get a custom steering wheel going for my nephew Tony, so, it's nice that Gil can rebuild them for little money, but, is it worth it to possibly replace the steering column? I'm not trying to frighten anyone, but, a bent steering shaft is a real bummer.
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My mentioning about the starter button idea is for those who don't want to try and remove their steering wheel and possible booger up the steering shaft, just to get the ignition switch out. Heck, I've been through two columns just to get a custom steering wheel going for my nephew Tony, so, it's nice that Gil can rebuild them for little money, but, is it worth it to possibly replace the steering column? I'm not trying to frighten anyone, but, a bent steering shaft is a real bummer.
Personally? YES!

If rigging a temporary switch solves the problem then it can be decided whether to permanently mount it or to try to remove the original switch and have it repaired.

Gene, when you're talking to a Brit, I'm not sure you want to use the word "booger" in the conversation.

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Gene, when you're talking to a Brit, I'm not sure you want to use the word "booger" in the conversation.

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Another suggestion is to install an "Otto-Start" type relay, which allows even a "sensitive" ignition switch to trigger the solenoid. Do a search for "Otto Start " (named after our own Otto Bartsch, aka tekenaar) but essentially it is just a standard relay (such as used in fog lights etc) that powers the solenoid directly from the battery or a fuse position on the fuse box, but only requires a few milliamperes of current through the ignition switch, which sounds like yours is capable of. If that doesn't work (and you should do it ANY event, as it's not IF but WHEN the contacts in the ignition switch fail, and the relay prevents that), I would start looking at the solenoid, or perhaps a bad engine ground, or...
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Another possibility here is the starter itself. If the grease in the bendix drive is old and sticky it will take time for the force supplied by the solenoid to get the drive out far enough for the main starter contacts to be made. The solution for this is simple, take the starter apart, clean and lube everything and put it back together.
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