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    Electronic Ignition with advance

    Ok, almost all modern electronic ignitions have built in timing functions, such as advance and retard, which are preset based on rpm and rate of rpm change. I noticed the Pertronix Ignitor III models have this feature. With this you can eliminate the vacuum advance and gain a cleaner install and better performance. Is there such a unit that will fit in the Opel 1.9 engine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by V6Opel View Post
    Ok, almost all modern electronic ignitions have built in timing functions such as advance ans retard which are preset based on rpm and rate of rpm change. I noticed the Pertronix Ignitor III models have this feature. With this you can eliminate the vacuum advance and gain a cleaner install and better performance. Is there such a unit that will fit in the Opel 1.9 engine?
    I put in a late model opel distributor that has electronic ignition and it was just a distributor swap. Later Opels had the 1.9 engine only with electronic ignition. Easy swap and starts/runs with barely a touch of the key. Looks completely original too. No one could tell the diff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank J View Post
    I put in a late model opel distributor that has electronic ignition and it was just a distributor swap. Later Opels had the 1.9 engine only with electronic ignition. Easy swap and starts/runs with barely a touch of the key. Looks completely original too. No one could tell the diff.
    Did you do a write up, or a thread with any detail info on this? Or is it really so simple that you just swap out the distributor and fire it up? Is the electronic control module built into the dist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank J View Post
    I put in a late model opel distributor that has electronic ignition and it was just a distributor swap. Later Opels had the 1.9 engine only with electronic ignition. Easy swap and starts/runs with barely a touch of the key. Looks completely original too. No one could tell the diff.
    Enclosed is a pic of the distributor. It really was almost that easy. you do have to take the manual fuel pump out first and change the coil as well. The modulator/ electronics were all built in the distributor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank J View Post
    Enclosed is a pic of the distributor. It really was almost that easy. you do have to take the manual fuel pump out first and change the coil as well. The modulator/ electronics were all built in the distributor.
    Here are some pics inside the distributor and 1 with the rotor out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank J View Post
    Enclosed is a pic of the distributor. It really was almost that easy. you do have to take the manual fuel pump out first and change the coil as well. The modulator/ electronics were all built in the distributor.
    Oh, in case your wondering why the fuel pump out? because the fuel pump operates on a cam at the base of the distributor. You just got to back off the 2 fuel pump bolts without disconnecting the fuel lines before the distributor will pull out.

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    Which Opel did the electronic distributor come out of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stacks View Post
    Which Opel did the electronic distributor come out of?
    I believe it was a 1975 Opel Asconsa with the 1.9 L engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank J View Post
    I believe it was a 1975 Opel Asconsa with the 1.9 L engine.
    They also had fuel injection for the first time that year, but only in the USA because of tighter pollution requirements in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stacks View Post
    Which Opel did the electronic distributor come out of?
    They didn't come in any US-spec Opels. 1975 Opels still had points and condenser, though they did have L-Jetronic fuel injection.

    Bosch came out with L-Jetronic in 1974, so the 1975 Opels were one of the first production cars to use the system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RallyBob View Post
    They didn't come in any US-spec Opels. 1975 Opels still had points and condenser, though they did have L-Jetronic fuel injection.

    Bosch came out with L-Jetronic in 1974, so the 1975 Opels were one of the first production cars to use the system.7
    I am not sure of the year and it could have been a Kadet. I am not that familiar with the sedan body styles so much and the person that I bought it from didn't make it clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank J View Post
    I am not sure of the year and it could have been a Kadet. I am not that familiar with the sedan body styles so much and the person that I bought it from didn't make it clear.
    The year would typically be on the distributor body.

    I'm just clarifying that no North American spec Opels used this system. Last year for Opels in the US was 1975. The electronic distributors came after 1975.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RallyBob View Post
    The year would typically be on the distributor body.

    I just clarifying that no North American spec Opels used this system. Last year for Opels in the US was 1975. The electronic distributors came after 1975.
    Later today I will look it over and see if I can find a year. I have had the system installed over 20 years now and it is hard to remember that far back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank J View Post
    Later today I will look it over and see if I can find a year. I have had the system installed over 20 years now and it is hard to remember that far back.
    Ok. just went out to the garage with a mirror and a mag light. One side says Bosch, made in Germany and the other side in very tiny numbers appears to be 83. Learned something new again today. Had no clue that the years were stamped on the distributors. I looked over my old distributor first so I would know where to look for the year and it says 70 even though my GT is a 71.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank J View Post
    Ok. just went out to the garage with a mirror and a mag light. One side says Bosch, made in Germany and the other side in very tiny numbers appears to be 83. Learned something new again today. Had no clue that the years were stamped on the distributors. I looked over my old distributor first so I would know where to look for the year and it says 70 even though my GT is a 71.
    here are the pics of the year and my old distributor. Maybe you can read it better. That is an inspection mirror image so it will be reversed.
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    Thanks for the information. Any idea where I can get one of these distributors?

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    at the end of the day, pertronix does the same thing. without buying different dizzy, appropriate coil, and ignition module

    but OGTS sells used 2.0/2.2 efi ignition set for $200. including the above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frozen Tundra GT View Post
    at the end of the day, pertronix does the same thing. without buying different dizzy, appropriate coil, and ignition module

    but OGTS sells used 2.0/2.2 efi ignition set for $200. including the above.
    it's not a dizzy coil. It's a bosch and looks identical to what was there before except more power. No wiring changes, just an easy direct swap out. Why criticize something just cause you wish you thought of it first. There is no wiring of modules it is all built in . 3 bolts and the distributor comes out (including fuel pump). 1 bolt and the coil slides out after unclipping the wires. That's all. Why bad mouth an awesome plan that's worked for me for 20 years completely trouble free. Glad i'm not in your head.

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    huh?


    I didn't mean my post as negative criticism at all. my apologies if sounded that way.

    no knock against your method, I wish I had your distributor for my efi... just posted a question about it yesterday.

    just pointing out to other gentleman who wanted to do it, pertronix for $50 does the same.
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    Yes. Google UK ebay, then search for Manta B distributors from late 70-early 80s. There are several from new to rebuilt and used. Actually if you understand German, you could go to ebay /german and look there to. I believe it also fits a Ascona B as well with 1.9 or 2 liter.
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