Fog Light Switch?

[Ooooner]

I was noticing on an extra dash gauge panel I have that there was a fog light switch beside the Hazard switch and the one in my GT is a dummy switch with no writing on it.
Does anyone know if there was a factory option for fog lights other than the ones used for the turn signals under the front bumper that this switch would be used for?

[jvandyke]

This help?
http://www.opelgt.com/forums/1e-othe...el-switch.html

[Ooooner]

That does help a lot but what I want to know was there a factory set of lights that went with the fog light switch or was there even accessory lights to go with the switch. Why would there be a working switch if there wasn't anything to go with it? I'm just curious.

[BQS4]

Roy;
If you look on some of the euro Opel sites, you'll see that where we have amber turn signal units under the bumper, theirs were clear, and those are actually the fog lights. Their turn signal units are what are our front side marker lights, or "banana" lights. My nephew copped a set of these fog (actually driving lights made by HELLA) from a guy here in GA. You can find them on the German Ebay every now and then, but, bring a thick wallet.

[oldopelguy]

Originally Posted by Ooooner Why would there be a working switch if there wasn't anything to go with it?

Because it's cheaper to grab a part out of the parts bin and use it then make up new parts. Keep in mind the GT was built out of parts they had already on hand to fit a price point, the hazard/Fog light switch assembly is something they already had sitting around from the Kadetts. The other light swith assemblies are from the Admiral, BTW, but modified slightly in all the GT's except the GT-J, where they work just like the Admiral.

[Ooooner]

I see what you guys are saying. I guess Opel didn't care if there was a working switch there or not for the US market. I guess it is good to have one if you wanted to install a set of fog lights between the bumperettes on the front bumper.
I can see the use of it on European GT's if the amber fog lights, we use as turn signals, are used as clear running lights.

[opelspyder]

I seemed to think on mine it would work to turn on the parking lights only.
Keith

[hrcollinsjr]

Originally Posted by opelspyder I seemed to think on mine it would work to turn on the parking lights only. Keith

There is a separate parking light switch. I don't know why anyone would wire the foglight switch to turn on the parking lights.

Harold

[heimue]

Originally Posted by BQS4 Roy; If you look on some of the euro Opel sites, you'll see that where we have amber turn signal units under the bumper, theirs were clear, and those are actually the fog lights.

The European GTs do not have fog lamps (H3) in the lower housings, but high beams (H1). If they have their lights on and change from low beam to high beam, the upper lights (H4) change to the high beam filament, and the lower lights go on with an additional high beam. Reason for that is (as so often) European law: Every car needs headlamp flashers, and that would not be possible when the upper lights are rotated down. Every car in Europe with hidden headlights is required to have separate, additional high beams.

Dieter

[jvandyke]

Originally Posted by BQS4 Roy; If you look on some of the euro Opel sites, you'll see that where we have amber turn signal units under the bumper, theirs were clear, and those are actually the fog lights. Their turn signal units are what are our front side marker lights, or "banana" lights. My nephew copped a set of these fog (actually driving lights made by HELLA) from a guy here in GA. You can find them on the German Ebay every now and then, but, bring a thick wallet.

I've got some research to do then. My "side marker lights", the long skinny banana dudes in front of the wheels are blinkers, my amber "fog lights", apparently suppose to be blinkers, where not on the car when I got it, but I have them and they're on the to-do list.
PO had massive KC Dayrunner off road lights cobbled up to the front bumperette mounting brackets (I took them off last week, a nod to the GT's off road days I guess.......yeah, whatever)
So, I need to figure what's best/safest/smartest and coolest, I don't really care what it's supposed to be. This way it maybe a bit tough to tell my blinkers from a head on view? I don't think I have emergency flashers either. Then I'll have to figure out what the heck the PO did with the wiring, Yikes.

[hallgeir]

Originally Posted by heimue The European GTs do not have fog lamps (H3) in the lower housings, but high beams (H1). If they have their lights on and change from low beam to high beam, the upper lights (H4) change to the high beam filament, and the lower lights go on with an additional high beam. Reason for that is (as so often) European law: Every car needs headlamp flashers, and that would not be possible when the upper lights are rotated down. Every car in Europe with hidden headlights is required to have separate, additional high beams. Dieter

Confirmed.

[Phoenix]

I haven't hooked up my euro-spec lights, yet, so I don't know exactly how they work but they have 2 bulbs in the housing. There is an E8 in the center and an E1 on the outside.

Also, the back part of the housing is chromed and not the pot metal that the US-spec are.

[hallgeir]

European specs: The rotating headlights is high and low beams. The lower housings has parking lights and high beams. The "banana" lights is blinkers. No sidemarkers.

[duvel]

Lower housings has parking lights and high beams but can you flash with them without the lights on ? I believe that you need a third relay to do it that way.I have only two relays and a few loose wires form the high beams.
So a drawing should be useful

[hallgeir]

Originally Posted by duvel Lower housings has parking lights and high beams but can you flash with them without the lights on ? I believe that you need a third relay to do it that way.I have only two relays and a few loose wires form the high beams. So a drawing should be useful

Yes, I can flash with them without the lights on. They have a separate relay. I`m not sure exactly how it was connected though. Sorry, but I`m in a hurry right now. I will dig into it if nobody else beats me to it.

[jlthunder]

Originally Posted by heimue Reason for that is (as so often) European law: Every car needs headlamp flashers, and that would not be possible when the upper lights are rotated down. Every car in Europe with hidden headlights is required to have separate, additional high beams. Dieter

With the advent of HID headlights, they can not flash quick enough and these cars also have an extra set of lights to comply with this requirement. An example is the Saab 9-5 with HID headlights, you will see a "high beam" bulb which only works with the flash function.

[Redskinsjbs]

Is it possible to convert an american set of switches to accomodate the fog light switch?

[Phoenix]

The switches are interchangeable, made exactly the same as the american ones just with the switch.