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Old 03-25-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Unanswered: Who uses the Turnlight housings for fog lamps/driving lights

I am looking to rid a GT of its lights and go smooth over that area.

How well do the lights under the bumper look as far as driving with them only? I know its been done..

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Are you speaking of not having the roll-over/ pop headlights?
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Driving Lights...

The Euro 'driving lights' that fit into where the orange ones go in the grille area by the over-riders are only 4" in diameter and of fixed focus - no provision for dipping ... they just go out on low beam.

I guess you could graft some late model QI hi-intensity head lights in there but they are a bit low to the ground to shine on the road correctly and may well be a significant glare hazzard to on-coming motorists ... is it legal to have high intensity lights mounted that low??
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Originally Posted by GTJIM View Post
... is it legal to have high intensity lights mounted that low??
I believe headlights have a specified range as far as height goes.

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Decades ago I mounted rectangular driving lights under the front bumper because I wanted to retain the aerodynamics of the GT with the roll-over lights down.

Bottom line: I couldn't see the road very well due to the poor angle.
  • If I directed the lights downward to see the road, objects ahead of me were not visible.
  • If I directed the lights up a bit, I couldn't detect pot holes, dips, road hazards until I ran over them.

Someone on this forum has photos of his green GT he modified by fixing the headlight bucket in the down position, and adding recessed lights that operate in this position. I believe he's located in Stockton, CA but can't remember his name. Search the members gallery.
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i used to have H4 7" cibies in the position that the fog light / us turn light were with 110/65W bulbs for the same reason and it worked great , full vision with high or low beam on . the original lights were always so dim that any light that worked was a big +
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Originally Posted by West Coast GT View Post
Decades ago I mounted rectangular driving lights under the front bumper because I wanted to retain the aerodynamics of the GT with the roll-over lights down.

Bottom line: I couldn't see the road very well due to the poor angle.
  • If I directed the lights downward to see the road, objects ahead of me were not visible.
  • If I directed the lights up a bit, I couldn't detect pot holes, dips, road hazards until I ran over them.

Someone on this forum has photos of his green GT he modified by fixing the headlight bucket in the down position, and adding recessed lights that operate in this position. I believe he's located in Stockton, CA but can't remember his name. Search the members gallery.
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Thanks, I was thinking of Manies' Solution.. I always loved those lights..

But I want to remove the buckets and more not just for aerodynamics.. but also for wieght.. about 25 lbs of wieght in the buckets, brackets, hardware, cables, levers, etc.. I honk could be saved.

I am considering trying the 4x2 bulbs off a 98 Camaro in some way.. Maybe something fitted into the nostrils. Being an EV I dont need the cooling vents.

Thanks for all the comments though.. it confirmed what I thought, that using the "Fog light" adaptation of the turn signal housings wouldnt be good for driving much.

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For tiny size these are hard to beat:
Hella 50mm Headlamp Modules

Though for bang-for-the-buck:
Hella 90mm Headlight Modules
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My PO had put KC Daylighter off road lights there. I only turned them on twice before I ditched them, they lit up the whole city! No they could not be used with any other cars in the same county, you'd blind 'em in a heart beat. Yeah, POs, wow.
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Though it has been a while since I have lived in the VA area, I do recall that they used to have very strict inspection policies. That said, I think one of the biggest concerns would be the legality of changing the lights. I know some states require that lights be of a certain height, reach a specific distance etc, unless they are exempt due to age( antique for example)
Just a thought...
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I'll be going to HID sometime.

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Wonder if these could be grafted to the GT body..?

http://www.rallylights.com/hella/hel...Conversion.jpg
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Charles;
If I remember correctly, blancojp has a kit similar to Manny Wongs, contact him...
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i am looking to graft these into the buckets (so they still rotate ) having trouble getting measurements of them to see if they will go in before i buy .
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Nice, I like. I think I'll look into those too. I wonder if the side markers can be integrated into the stock location too.
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Here is what we did for the v8 Opel. The lights we used were Pia Quattro and they really light up the night! No problems seeing where you are going.

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Originally Posted by GoinManta View Post
Wonder if these could be grafted to the GT body..?

http://www.rallylights.com/hella/hel...Conversion.jpg
I knew I saw something like this not too long ago, then the thread came back around.
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Left Lane Motorsports -- Left Lane Motorsports' Homepage click catalog then GT Driving Passing lights. Maybe get an idea or two.
From this thread post 78.
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Wow I really like both of them headlights. Mainly the first one that GoinManta posted. If anyone goes through with this.. let me know! Anything is possible.. although it would be nice to get some dimensions first.

jvandyke; Your thread link did not work. It just sent me to the Left Lane Motorsports Website. I know which thread you are talking about though.. as I posted on it. I was also interested in more information on that projection conversion kit. Too bad the site didn't have a picture of the finished product as I would like to know how to cover the opening.
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Sparky;
You were on the right spot, just didn't go far enough. Follow the link to LeftLane Motorsports, then in the list on the left, click "online catalog", then click on "GT driving/passing lights" It'll give you a picture....
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Originally Posted by Sparky73 View Post

jvandyke; Your thread link did not work. It just sent me to the Left Lane Motorsports Website. I know which thread you are talking about though.. as I posted on it. I was also interested in more information on that projection conversion kit. Too bad the site didn't have a picture of the finished product as I would like to know how to cover the opening.
Like Gene said, can't link straight to it, have to follow the sequence as described. I have a feeling this conversion was never finished off but at least it's a source of ideas. I like the flipping headlights but it would be more simple and lighter without all that hardware not as cool though.
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One of the junk opel gts that was giving to me had this done. He simply put a metal bracket hold the lights in place inside the belly pan. Which when i got the car i did i very slight tug and whoops there goes the lights and half the belly pan hahaha.
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