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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Dearborn Heights, MI
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Unanswered: Bodywork Literature?!
Ive seached it on amazon.com, but dont know which book(s) to get. Thanks for the responses!
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Southern Red Neck
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Snellville, GA
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Real Name: Gene
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Opeler
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Eastland, Texas
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I think body work is best learned by watching, rather than reading. If you are starting into body work, you need to get familiar with these folks:
Eastwood Company: Auto Tools, Body Repair, Classic Car Restoration, House of Kolor Paint, Powder Coating They have books and videos for all of the specialties. Their catalog is also the bible for tools. During the height of the GT project, I got a package or two a week from them. |
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UngerDog
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Pleasanton, CA
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I would say that reading will help, watching is better, but doing is the best way to learn. If you want to learn a little about the basics by using a reference book, go down to the library and take a look. There should be a book or two you can check out. However, there isn't any better tool than experience. If you can go watch someone at a body shop. Watch them pound out a dent. See how they apply body filler and then sand it down. It's not that hard to do, but to do it well takes some skill.
Jerry |
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Old Opeler
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: New Zealand
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Community Colleges
There is usually a Community College or Technical Training School nearby who do evening classes in Auto Body - often they encourage you to take your own car along to work on. Have heard stories of them drooling over GTs as the body work usually required gives a very comprehensive look at all aspects! They often have painting facilities as well.
Well worth it as a skilled Tutor is there to guide and instruct.
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Sick with Opelitus
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Janesville wisconsin
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Senior Contributor
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Leonard, Texas
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And thats the way to learn the quickest.
Or just jump in with some basic hammers and dollies and go for it! Hard Knocks is one way that you learn, if you uck it up you gotta fix it. And you learn by ucking it up and fixing it. But it takes years of ucking up and fixing it before you learn the easy way even though it may not be the best way. But if you can get to a local Vo-tech by all means do it. It took me some years to do this:
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Panel Beater
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Cowansville quebec
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The community college is a good place to look for books which are used to teach.Barnes and Noble, Chapters etc. have books that may suit. Look for books which are general as well as specific such as sheet metal,fabrication,metalurgy,casting,auto refinishing,custom paint,welding to name a few.
Paint and welding manufactures tend to supply a wealth of information on the internet as well. Trade handbooks such as Audels Sheetmetal Workers can supply some basic information.A good recent basic welding book is Motorbooks Performance Welding by Richard Finch which provides good information on processes , equipment ,materials and basic "how to" for the beginner. If you need any specific information I would be glad to help. John
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Opel Key Master
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Tennessee
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Books
I actually turn to books for other ways of doing things in the body area. There is definitly more than one way of doing something here. I actually have several new books that I am finished with that if anyone wants to save money off the list price, I will set you right in them. I buy books for everything, not just painting, but metal, fiberglass work, electrical, interior, and restoration. I have more or less picked up tips from all of these publications, so there is nothing wrong with that. I am more a person that can pick up a book and learn from it and also learn from example. Some people just cannot be book taught at all, nothing wrong with that either. Sometimes the way a book is written, no one can really understand part of what the writer is trying to explain. Thats why if I don't think i can explain something well on the forum, I do not even go there, you can come over and watch if you like. Kind of like this headliner I will be doing this week.
Keith
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Panel Beater
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Cowansville quebec
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An old guy like me can sometimes make things too complicated. I started my apprenticeship in 1970 but my first cars were done in the driveway dodging rain showers when I was thirteen. They didn't turn out too bad.
Decide what you want to do with the car.A quick paint and cleanup or a total resto. Be realistic on what you can afford and what time you have to spend so you don't end up with a car apart which later has to be dragged away.Get some basic tools that will allow you to do what you want and go for it! You'll make decisions and learn along the way.There are a lot of people on this site that will assist you. john
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Opeler
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
Posts: 31
Real Name: Dave
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Try MetalMeet - for Metalshaping Enthusiasts & Professional Metalshapers , it's a very helpful forum related site. Anything you want to do with pretty much any kind of metal will be there. Lots of articles on bodywork......making new panels, fixing dents (metal finishing w/ no filler) , welding, etc. Lots of step by step info.
Regards, Dave Myrtle Creek, Or. Jags and Opels |
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Project 1450 supporter...
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Pleasant Valley, CT
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I'll concur with that, Metalmeet is an awesome source of info. There are some incredible metalworkers on there. I found out about Wray Schelin from that forum, and was lucky enough to take one of his classes in Sturbridge. The guy's a master metalworker, it humbles me to be in the same room as him!
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Opel Key Master
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Tennessee
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Ebay
You can also purchase workshop class time off Ebay, I remeber a metal shaping course available-it was funny when I read the recommendations from former students, I swore I read one from Rallye Bob????
Keith
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Project 1450 supporter...
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Yup, that's Wray Schelin's ad on Ebay. And yup, those were my comments.
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1000 Post Club
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Saginaw, MI
Posts: 1,279
Real Name: Jon
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Paint & Body Work DVD's
Been looking around for some DVD's on Painting, Body Work and everything in between. The best experience is hands on, but I'd really like to see others tips and tricks and maybe get a little advice from them.
Been looking at these, but can't really find any reviews. Kevin Tetz Paintucation 4 DVD Set Kevin Tetz Paintucation 7 DVD Set Any other suggestions?
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1- remove and do the doors or the hood first as a test, ( drill and PIN doors first before you remove them ALA OPELSPYDER..once a door if off,its damn near impoosible to get it back right..i didnt pin mine...took forever to repositon the doors...one still is not as perfect as it was.
2-get it the best you can, then ..before you shoot primer on it. Find someone to go over all the little things that you have missed. A trained eye can see or feel what you will not see. Even when you think its perfect,someone with the "eye",can walk around the car with filler and touch up what need s to be reworked. 3- the opel curved doors and panels are real tough.Its real easy to sand "flat". I made a curved sanding block about 2/3 the width of the door,and this allowed a a noob like me to sand the doors almost perfectly.I spent about 20 hours on each door..maybe more. I got help with the wheel arches especially the top of my front wheel aches where to my surprise a donor front clip was grafted in. 4- as a friend told me..go for it..you cant make it any worse!
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