Aluminum Radiator

P.J. Romano · 08-07-2008

I know that aluminum radiator has been installed by some members but I just can't get over how much it improved the cooling of my GT. My original radiator was in a very good shape, cleaned and pressure tested. Still at the speed over 110 kph (70 mph), the needle was creeping up toward 3/4 of gauge range. I am now driving with aluminum radiator for a week, at some real hot weather and the needle never went over 1/2 on the gauge.

The aluminum radiator that I installed is originally used on Honda Civic and its size is very close to Opel GT radiator. I had to fabricate radiator brackets and to modify upper radiator hose and that was it! It took me about 3 hours.
Here are some pictures.

newman27 · 08-07-2008

And it's nice looking too!

. It looks like it has a drain plug unlike the stock radiator...

Gumby · 08-07-2008

Do you have the part number for that radiator. It looks like a simple enough installation. I need a new radiator for my 2.4 EFI swap.

P.J. Romano · 08-07-2008

I bought it from these people:

eBay Motors: KOYO ALUMINUM RACING RADIATOR 92-00 Civic Del Sol B16 (item 280244455287 end time Aug-08-08 00:55:22 PDT)

I am surprised how they raised prices, though. I paid the radiator one month ago $49.99 + $40.00 S/H. They are now asking $284.99 + $200.00 S/H to Canada!

I do not know what is going on but you should certainly shop around.

oldopelguy · 08-07-2008

That's the one I've been recomending for years for GTs, glad to see it worked out well for you.

blancojp · 08-07-2008

Originally Posted by oldopelguy

That's the one I've been recomending for years for GTs, glad to see it worked out well for you.

I believe I showed how to install this type of radiator on a GT last year. Look at the thread called " Cooling system upgrade" early last year. I had one of these installed on the animal cooling a V-6 and did it with no problems.

For you to get the extra 33% cooling this type of radiator offers, you must find one with twin 1" tubes which is approx. 2.25" in width. Godspeed makes one which is affordable and usually sells for about $90 with freight.

The other part of this story is that it saves 10lbs on the front end of the car.

rrossjr · 08-07-2008

Originally Posted by P.J. Romano

I know that aluminum radiator has been installed by some members ,,,Here are some pictures.

Nice work, Looks very stock.
No fan/shroud, or am I missing something?
Ron in Indy

markandson · 08-07-2008

Originally Posted by rrossjr

Nice work, Looks very stock.
No fan/shroud, or am I missing something?
Ron in Indy

No fan shroud is needed the Electric fan is in front of the radiator

markandson · 08-07-2008

Originally Posted by Gumby

Do you have the part number for that radiator. It looks like a simple enough installation. I need a new radiator for my 2.4 EFI swap.

I think you need an extra nipple on the top of the radiator for the 2.4 EFI setup. I got mine from OGTS a few weeks ago. They had it special made for the EFI engines it was around $550. The only complaint that I have is that for that kind of money the brackets should be exactly as original and they are not so the install is not as pretty as it should be. The bottom radiator hose also is tight to the oil filter making it difficult to get the hose on and the filter off. I had to remove the filter at the end of my build just to be able to get the hose on. The good thing about it is that they made it so that the original 1.9 upper radiator hose can be used and they added the nipple on the left side to connect to the triangular tank. They also had a special bottom hose made that I bought along with the radiator.

P.J. Romano · 08-07-2008

Originally Posted by rrossjr

No fan/shroud, or am I missing something?
Ron in Indy

Here is the pic of my electric fan (still showing old radiator though). I put a piece of fuel hose around the fan to prevent fan touching the radiator. That ensured quiet, vibration-free functioning.

rrossjr · 08-07-2008

Originally Posted by P.J. Romano

Here is the pic of my electric fan (still showing old radiator though). I put a piece of fuel hose around the fan to prevent fan touching the radiator. That ensured quiet, vibration-free functioning.

So I was missing something!

Nice. Thermostatically controlled or always on?
Is there enough clearance with the new radiator to run a stock (belt driven) fan? Any reason not to use both?
Ron in Indy

P.J. Romano · 08-07-2008

Ron,

It is thermostatically controlled, 14" fan. The supplier claimed 2000 cfm. If you look the radiator pics earlier in this thread, you will notice sensor line in the upper hose. The thermoswitch incorporates 30A relay (this is aluminum box on the left side of radiator).
Electrical fan alone keeps my engine cool at any stop and go condition (I have normal 1.9 engine). By removing standard fan, I gained few HP and engine works quieter.

heimue · 08-07-2008

That thread came up just now, while I'm searching the net for an aluminum radiator... great souls think alike!
What are the overall width and height of this one, mine should go in my new "Jägermeister", I have a maximum space of around 18x18" available.
Is there any website where I can pick a "standard replacement" by size (width x height x thickness) from any of the rice cooker's models?

Dieter

P.J. Romano · 08-07-2008

Originally Posted by heimue

What are the overall width and height of this one.
Dieter

The size is 16.5 x 14.25 x 2 inches.

krewzer · 08-08-2008

eBay is loaded with aluminum radiators for the Honda Civic with the same dimensions and features. Running around $40 and $40 for shipping.
Wes

Opelupogus · 08-13-2008

Does anyone know if the Del Sol Aluminum radiator could be made to work on a GT that has an automatic transmission?

I suspect that the most common recommendation will be to change to a manual transmission - but since I already thought of that one I'm hoping for some additional suggestions.

Gumby · 08-13-2008

Originally Posted by Opelupogus

Does anyone know if the Del Sol Aluminum radiator could be made to work on a GT that has an automatic transmission?

I suspect that the most common recommendation will be to change to a manual transmission - but since I already thought of that one I'm hoping for some additional suggestions.

Why would the fact the GT has an automatic have any bearing on radiator choice? Or am I missing something...

What are the dimensions of the Del Sol radiator?

grslightng02 · 08-13-2008

Does anyone have a pic of the stock radiator with the radiator shroud. My GT came with one but was not installed. I was told this is used to channel air in and improves the stock radiator without having to buy a new radiator or install an electric fan. I have yet to see a pic of one installed though.

Thanks Neil

oldopelguy · 08-13-2008

Originally Posted by Opelupogus

Does anyone know if the Del Sol Aluminum radiator could be made to work on a GT that has an automatic transmission?

I suspect that the most common recommendation will be to change to a manual transmission - but since I already thought of that one I'm hoping for some additional suggestions.

You would just need to get one for a Honda with an automatic trans and hook up your cooler lines same as on the Opel. Probably will need either some adapter fittings or some hose barbs and hose clamps, but either should work.

Gumby, the automatic transmission cars have a cooler for the trans fluid installed in the lower tank of the radiator. It's actually a pretty common thing to do, most manufacturers do it.

krewzer · 08-13-2008

I saw at least one radiator listed on eBay that had the tranny coolant lines on the bottom of the radiator for the auto trans. Same price, same dimensions.

Opelupogus · 08-13-2008

Originally Posted by krewzer

I saw at least one radiator listed on eBay that had the tranny coolant lines on the bottom of the radiator for the auto trans. Same price, same dimensions.

I finally found several on eBay for automatic transmissions, but they have a 1" core instead of a 2" core like the one mentioned earlier in this thread. If you see a 2" radiator with the A/T lines could you please post a link.

My other thought was to use a separate transmission cooler - since conversion to a manual transmission may be a future project anyway.

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rrossjr · 08-13-2008

Originally Posted by grslightng02

Does anyone have a pic of the stock radiator with the radiator shroud...Thanks Neil

Here's what it looks like from the top. It does seem to give you more efficient cooling (those Opel designers were pretty smart guys

)
Ron in Indy

krewzer · 08-14-2008

Hey Ron,
Is that rocker cover chromed? It's beautiful!
Wes

rrossjr · 08-14-2008

Originally Posted by krewzer

Hey Ron,
Is that rocker cover chromed? It's beautiful!
Wes

Yep...I like the shiny stuff!

Gumby · 09-01-2008

FYI for anyone considering this radiator...

Ebay item: eBay Motors: CXRacing Radiator Civic 92-00 DEL SOL B16 B18 ALUMINUM (item 190247318232 end time Sep-02-08 17:59:31 PDT)

Appears to be basically the same things (LxHxW all the same) for $40 + shipping (44.99).

08-07-2008	#3 (permalink)
Gumby Supercharged 2.4 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 619	Do you have the part number for that radiator. It looks like a simple enough installation. I need a new radiator for my 2.4 EFI swap. __________________ 1972 Opel GT: 2.4, big brakes, efi - inprogress

08-07-2008	#5 (permalink)
oldopelguy Have Opel, Will Travel Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Saint Michael, MN Posts: 1,727 Logbook Entries: 3 Provided Answers: 2	That's the one I've been recomending for years for GTs, glad to see it worked out well for you. __________________ 1958 Rekord Sedan, 1958 Olympia Wagon, 1959 Opel Olympia Sedan, 1967 Kadett Coupe, 1967 Admiral Sedan 4L CIH-6, 1968 Kadett fastback 1.1L, 1970 Kadett Wagon Turbo 2.2L, 1971 Kadett Sedan 1.1L, 1975 Manta Wagon 4.3L V-6

08-07-2008	#13 (permalink)
heimue "The Jägermeister" Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newnan, GA - greater ATL area Posts: 1,515 Provided Answers: 3	That thread came up just now, while I'm searching the net for an aluminum radiator... great souls think alike! What are the overall width and height of this one, mine should go in my new "Jägermeister", I have a maximum space of around 18x18" available. Is there any website where I can pick a "standard replacement" by size (width x height x thickness) from any of the rice cooker's models? Dieter __________________ One 2.0-16V Opel is not enough

08-13-2008	#16 (permalink)
Opelupogus Opeler Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 62	Aluminum Radiator for A/T Does anyone know if the Del Sol Aluminum radiator could be made to work on a GT that has an automatic transmission? I suspect that the most common recommendation will be to change to a manual transmission - but since I already thought of that one I'm hoping for some additional suggestions. __________________ If it's not leaking oil - it's out of oil! 1969 Opel GT ... visit my restoration project ... 2008 SRT4

08-13-2008	#18 (permalink)
grslightng02 Opeler Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sacramento, California, USA Posts: 424 Real Name: Neil Provided Answers: 2	Radiator Shroud Does anyone have a pic of the stock radiator with the radiator shroud. My GT came with one but was not installed. I was told this is used to channel air in and improves the stock radiator without having to buy a new radiator or install an electric fan. I have yet to see a pic of one installed though. Thanks Neil

08-07-2008	#4 (permalink)
P.J. Romano Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Goderich, Ontario, Canada Posts: 275 Provided Answers: 1	I bought it from these people: eBay Motors: KOYO ALUMINUM RACING RADIATOR 92-00 Civic Del Sol B16 (item 280244455287 end time Aug-08-08 00:55:22 PDT) I am surprised how they raised prices, though. I paid the radiator one month ago $49.99 + $40.00 S/H. They are now asking $284.99 + $200.00 S/H to Canada! I do not know what is going on but you should certainly shop around.

08-07-2008	#12 (permalink)
P.J. Romano Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Goderich, Ontario, Canada Posts: 275 Provided Answers: 1	Ron, It is thermostatically controlled, 14" fan. The supplier claimed 2000 cfm. If you look the radiator pics earlier in this thread, you will notice sensor line in the upper hose. The thermoswitch incorporates 30A relay (this is aluminum box on the left side of radiator). Electrical fan alone keeps my engine cool at any stop and go condition (I have normal 1.9 engine). By removing standard fan, I gained few HP and engine works quieter.

08-08-2008	#15 (permalink)
krewzer Opeler Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sugar Land, Texas Posts: 235 Real Name: Wes Thomas Provided Answers: 2	eBay is loaded with aluminum radiators for the Honda Civic with the same dimensions and features. Running around $40 and $40 for shipping. Wes

08-13-2008	#20 (permalink)
krewzer Opeler Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sugar Land, Texas Posts: 235 Real Name: Wes Thomas Provided Answers: 2	I saw at least one radiator listed on eBay that had the tranny coolant lines on the bottom of the radiator for the auto trans. Same price, same dimensions.

08-14-2008	#23 (permalink)
krewzer Opeler Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sugar Land, Texas Posts: 235 Real Name: Wes Thomas Provided Answers: 2	Hey Ron, Is that rocker cover chromed? It's beautiful! Wes

09-01-2008	#25 (permalink)
Gumby Supercharged 2.4 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 619	FYI for anyone considering this radiator... Ebay item: eBay Motors: CXRacing Radiator Civic 92-00 DEL SOL B16 B18 ALUMINUM (item 190247318232 end time Sep-02-08 17:59:31 PDT) Appears to be basically the same things (LxHxW all the same) for $40 + shipping (44.99). __________________ 1972 Opel GT: 2.4, big brakes, efi - inprogress

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