Fan Shroud

bozkm · 05-30-2005

Does the radiator have to be removed to get the fan shroud off? My car doesn't have the shroud, but the parts car does. After unscrewing from the radiator, it is all one round piece and won't clear the fan...by the looks of it, the radiator must be removed before the fan can. I am missing something easier?

Thanks.

Kevin

namba209 · 05-30-2005

I wouldn't think so Kevin, but the fan and maybe the water pump need to come off. This is based on other cars I've worked on, haven't had an opel with a shroud on it. But just by looking you should be able to see what needs to be removed. If there will be clearance with the fan off, I'd suggest going that way, vice dumping all your coolant to remove the radiator. JMTCW.

Killer Texas GT · 05-30-2005

In most cases the fan is all that needs to be pulled in order to put the shourd on, sometimes its a tight fit between the radiator and the fan to get a wrench in if you have a off set box end wrench it will make it easier. It usr to be referred to a fan wrench in the old days.

baz · 05-30-2005

1/4" ratchet sets its the way of the future

i was told this by a mechanic in the 70's and still have yet to find a strong enough extension set for them

bozkm · 05-30-2005

Thanks. When the weather clears, I will go see if I can get a wrench or socket on it. Another idea I was thinking off, while a little more drastic, is to cut it in half. There are two screws in the top, and two in the bottom, so securing it when putting it back together shouldn't be an issue. Alot of the newer cars/trucks I have seen are this way.

aknassassin · 05-30-2005

It's not worth cutting it off, I got mine off pretty easily. If you get the fan loose you'll be fine. I put a sheet of cardboard against my radiator so I didn't bugger up any of the fins removing the shroud. You'll get it without cutting it up. Might break a knuckle or two but hey whats that to a nice fan shroud for the opel you love so much.

baronbors · 05-30-2005

Pull the radiator - it is only one bolt and two hoses and it slides right out. Put the shroud over the fan- check over the radiator to make sure it is nice and clean and slide it back in. Four bolts fasten the shroud and your ready to go. OH - don't forget to check your thermo and hoses and put in fresh antifreeze and water. Maintenece-maintenence- matinence makes an Opel a happy Opel. JMTCW

greensmurf20 · 05-30-2005

to get a shroud on or off, i agree with tom. just pull the two hoses off, unbolt the lower mount and take the 4 screws off the shroud, pull radiator up and out, get the shroud, put back together. or take the 4 screws for the shroud off, slide it as close to the motor as you can get, get a comination of a offset wrench, or socket with ratchet and take the fan off so you can pull the fan off to get the shroud out.

its really easier to pull the radiator, but when your cheap like me, sometimes you dont wanna loose your antifreeze cuz its really hard to catch it all when draining it from a GT, it kinda runs all over the crossmember and such, not a clear train place for it.

namba209 · 05-30-2005

Darn, this is getting to be close to the "which way to pull the engine/tranny, out the top or out the bottom"

Different strokes, etc.

greensmurf20 · 05-31-2005

far from the engine one ron, lets just hope keith dont see this or we'll have WWIII for sure!!!

ayeropelgt · 05-31-2005

"to get a shroud on or off, i agree with tom. just pull the two hoses off, unbolt the lower mount"

Ive got a question, can anyone give a picture of how the lower mounting bolt bolts in

, because The radiator I have is just sitting in there, I didn't know there was a lower mounting bolt. Any help is appreciated.

greensmurf20 · 05-31-2005

the bottom mount is probably broken off of yours like alot of them are. its just a rubber mount with a bracket hanging off the bottom of that rubber piece. that bracket bolts to the car.

ayeropelgt · 05-31-2005

Oh, I did'nt know that. Thanks for the info, but let me ask your opinion, will the radiator be fine with out the lower mount, or should I try and find/make one? because the radiator seems fine like it is to me.

greensmurf20 · 05-31-2005

i'd just be sure the bottom of the radiator wont swing into the fan. the one on my first GT was broke and just used a bungee cord to hold the radiator towards the front of the car.

tekenaar · 05-31-2005

Originally Posted by greensmurf20

the bottom mount is probably broken off of yours like alot of them are. its just a rubber mount with a bracket hanging off the bottom of that rubber piece. that bracket bolts to the car.

Leave the bottom radiator bracket attached to the frame and use bottom radiator bolt as guide to locate it. You don't really need to even use the nut that retains it in that bracket, weight of radiator and coolant will do that just fine. One less step in radiator removal and reinstallation. Been doing that way since '76 . . .

markandson · 05-31-2005

Bottom mount is very easy to make, it's just a flat strap with a rubber bushing between it and the radiator. The original one is more of an isolater than this setup because the bolts are separated by the rubber, but this would be a little better than a bungee cord

ayeropelgt · 05-31-2005

Thanks for the info, btw my GT has the bracket and rubber strap, so no worries about it hitting the fan, but no palce for a bolt

well maybe that could be from the P.O. ! Thanks again for the help.

baronbors · 06-01-2005

Originally Posted by ayeropelgt

Thanks for the info, Thanks again for the help.

Another satisfied customer

05-30-2005	#1 (permalink)
bozkm Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 207	Unanswered: Fan Shroud Does the radiator have to be removed to get the fan shroud off? My car doesn't have the shroud, but the parts car does. After unscrewing from the radiator, it is all one round piece and won't clear the fan...by the looks of it, the radiator must be removed before the fan can. I am missing something easier? Thanks. Kevin

05-30-2005	#2 (permalink)
namba209 6,000 Post Club Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Imperial Beach, CA South of San Diego Posts: 6,054 Provided Answers: 6	I wouldn't think so Kevin, but the fan and maybe the water pump need to come off. This is based on other cars I've worked on, haven't had an opel with a shroud on it. But just by looking you should be able to see what needs to be removed. If there will be clearance with the fan off, I'd suggest going that way, vice dumping all your coolant to remove the radiator. JMTCW. __________________ Ron 72 GT 3.4L V-6/T-5/ZF posi - almost done - Just need AC installed. 75 Chevy monza 5.7L/TH350/Auburn 3.08 posi - Next

05-30-2005	#4 (permalink)
baz opel free after 26 years Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: sunderland england Posts: 4,941 Real Name: barry williams Provided Answers: 4	1/4" ratchet sets its the way of the future i was told this by a mechanic in the 70's and still have yet to find a strong enough extension set for them __________________ Copyright © 2003-2009 barry williams All Rights Reserved save praying to God for sunday today we pray to Nike and run like hell

05-30-2005	#6 (permalink)
aknassassin Opeler Join Date: May 2005 Location: Tok, Alaska Posts: 28	It's not worth cutting it off, I got mine off pretty easily. If you get the fan loose you'll be fine. I put a sheet of cardboard against my radiator so I didn't bugger up any of the fins removing the shroud. You'll get it without cutting it up. Might break a knuckle or two but hey whats that to a nice fan shroud for the opel you love so much. __________________ '69 OPEL GT Rebuilt 1.9L w/ 5 Miles(rearend locked up on maiden voyage)

05-30-2005	#7 (permalink)
baronbors 1000 Post Club Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: League City Texas Posts: 1,117	Pull the radiator - it is only one bolt and two hoses and it slides right out. Put the shroud over the fan- check over the radiator to make sure it is nice and clean and slide it back in. Four bolts fasten the shroud and your ready to go. OH - don't forget to check your thermo and hoses and put in fresh antifreeze and water. Maintenece-maintenence- matinence makes an Opel a happy Opel. JMTCW __________________ Texas Opel Preservation Society

05-30-2005	#3 (permalink)
Killer Texas GT Senior Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Leonard, Texas Posts: 888 Provided Answers: 1	In most cases the fan is all that needs to be pulled in order to put the shourd on, sometimes its a tight fit between the radiator and the fan to get a wrench in if you have a off set box end wrench it will make it easier. It usr to be referred to a fan wrench in the old days.

05-30-2005	#5 (permalink)
bozkm Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 207	Thanks. When the weather clears, I will go see if I can get a wrench or socket on it. Another idea I was thinking off, while a little more drastic, is to cut it in half. There are two screws in the top, and two in the bottom, so securing it when putting it back together shouldn't be an issue. Alot of the newer cars/trucks I have seen are this way.

05-30-2005	#8 (permalink)
greensmurf20 OPEL-LESS!!! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gobles michigan 49055 Posts: 2,112	to get a shroud on or off, i agree with tom. just pull the two hoses off, unbolt the lower mount and take the 4 screws off the shroud, pull radiator up and out, get the shroud, put back together. or take the 4 screws for the shroud off, slide it as close to the motor as you can get, get a comination of a offset wrench, or socket with ratchet and take the fan off so you can pull the fan off to get the shroud out. its really easier to pull the radiator, but when your cheap like me, sometimes you dont wanna loose your antifreeze cuz its really hard to catch it all when draining it from a GT, it kinda runs all over the crossmember and such, not a clear train place for it. __________________ previousely owned 8 GTs and 1 manta. currently own 92 25th anniversary Z28. Ttop, 350, T56 swap, many upgrades, basically a complete restore. 67 chevy sportvan deluxe....next in line.

05-30-2005	#9 (permalink)
namba209 6,000 Post Club Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Imperial Beach, CA South of San Diego Posts: 6,054 Provided Answers: 6	Darn, this is getting to be close to the "which way to pull the engine/tranny, out the top or out the bottom" Different strokes, etc. __________________ Ron 72 GT 3.4L V-6/T-5/ZF posi - almost done - Just need AC installed. 75 Chevy monza 5.7L/TH350/Auburn 3.08 posi - Next

05-31-2005	#10 (permalink)
greensmurf20 OPEL-LESS!!! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gobles michigan 49055 Posts: 2,112	far from the engine one ron, lets just hope keith dont see this or we'll have WWIII for sure!!! __________________ previousely owned 8 GTs and 1 manta. currently own 92 25th anniversary Z28. Ttop, 350, T56 swap, many upgrades, basically a complete restore. 67 chevy sportvan deluxe....next in line.

05-31-2005	#11 (permalink)
ayeropelgt Opeler Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 36	"to get a shroud on or off, i agree with tom. just pull the two hoses off, unbolt the lower mount" Ive got a question, can anyone give a picture of how the lower mounting bolt bolts in , because The radiator I have is just sitting in there, I didn't know there was a lower mounting bolt. Any help is appreciated.

05-31-2005	#12 (permalink)
greensmurf20 OPEL-LESS!!! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gobles michigan 49055 Posts: 2,112	the bottom mount is probably broken off of yours like alot of them are. its just a rubber mount with a bracket hanging off the bottom of that rubber piece. that bracket bolts to the car. __________________ previousely owned 8 GTs and 1 manta. currently own 92 25th anniversary Z28. Ttop, 350, T56 swap, many upgrades, basically a complete restore. 67 chevy sportvan deluxe....next in line.

05-31-2005	#13 (permalink)
ayeropelgt Opeler Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 36	Oh, I did'nt know that. Thanks for the info, but let me ask your opinion, will the radiator be fine with out the lower mount, or should I try and find/make one? because the radiator seems fine like it is to me.

05-31-2005	#14 (permalink)
greensmurf20 OPEL-LESS!!! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gobles michigan 49055 Posts: 2,112	i'd just be sure the bottom of the radiator wont swing into the fan. the one on my first GT was broke and just used a bungee cord to hold the radiator towards the front of the car. __________________ previousely owned 8 GTs and 1 manta. currently own 92 25th anniversary Z28. Ttop, 350, T56 swap, many upgrades, basically a complete restore. 67 chevy sportvan deluxe....next in line.

05-31-2005	#17 (permalink)
ayeropelgt Opeler Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 36	Radiator Thanks for the info, btw my GT has the bracket and rubber strap, so no worries about it hitting the fan, but no palce for a bolt well maybe that could be from the P.O. ! Thanks again for the help.

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