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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Columbus, OH
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Unanswered: newby looking for some exhaust help
anyway i'm currently in the process of restoring a GT thats been locked up in a garage for the past 25 years. so since it has sat so long plenty of things need attention, fuel everything, for example. however upon rebuilding the solex carb, removing and bead blasting the intake manifold, and pulling the 2 manifolds apart (which was a challenge), i have discovered a crack in the exhaust manifold. now i have heard that i have some options on replacement, but i definitely don't want to put the same manifold back on. the factory design where the 2 manifolds bolt together and the exhaust gases are free to heat up the intake, simply disgusts me. correct me if i'm wrong but after some research i understand that the american version exhaust manifold from the FI engines will bolt right up to my factory head and pipe, but does it share the same design as what i have now. i'm looking for something a little better but i'm just not sure that i'm ready to drop a couple hundred dollars on a nice header. does anybody have any suggestions? if the FI exhaust manifold bolts to the head but not the intake i might be game for that. thank you in advance for all your help guys. Tim
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tomking
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: SW Missouri
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The so called Sprint manifolds will bolt up directly and do not have the heat riser. They seem to go for 200 plus on ebay. Headers do show up on ebay regularly and arent quite so expensive. They involve more changes to the exhaust system then as the downpipe must be different from stock. Plus some headers have real fitment problems. Also some dont like how low the exhaust pipe is with headers due to the collector connection taking up vertical space compared to stock.
I have been making "home made" sprint manifolds which means cutting off the heat riser with a saw and welding on a cast iron cover plate. Yes welding cast iron is tricky and frought with issues. Many welding shops just wont attempt it. I have many exhaust manifolds and have little to lose by doing it myself. So far so good. There is a thread on this site with pics, not by me, where I got the idea. Some one may come up with the link, but try searching for sprint manifold, home made sprint manifold, modified sprint manifold, etc to find it. Good luck.
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Exhaust Manifolds
It's my experience that the 75 cast manifolds are pretty good all around for a lot of Opels. And they seem to avoid some of the problems lots of guys have had with the aftermarket ones.
The 75 manifolds are solid, heavy, good for scavanging. The only problem I find with them is when I am taking them off I sometimes (frequently break off one of the studs) so then I have to fool around tapping/drilling to replace them. Anymore I just resort to heat when I a pulling one off. I think there are also quite a few of them around.
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Über OpelGT.com Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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And this:
http://www.opelgt.com/forums/6d-exha...-manifold.html And do a search for "sprint + manifold" in the Exhaust Forum http://www.opelgt.com/forums/search.php?searchid=261164 and you will be richly rewarded, and have the pleasure of reading LOTS of threads on Sprint manifolds.
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Opeler
Join Date: Feb 2007
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thanks guys for the info. but i'm still a little confused are the "sprint manifold" and the 75 FI manifold 2 different things that are "identical". and my other thing i need verified is that one for a 2.0 and a 1.9 will fit but not any larger. and i need to find one with an "opel" stamp, not a GM stamp. sorry i have so many questions, but this it the first car i ever owned thats older than me, and i just want to make sure i get it right
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Later European models with EFI (2.0 and 2.2 litre) had a variation or two of the Sprint manifold which does not coincide with the headpipes used on the 1.9 litre-equipped Opels. |
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http://www.opelgt.com/forums/6c-fuel...fold-head.html , and the exhaust manifold is a direct bolt up/on
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Opel Gt Source has 2.0, 2.2, and 2.4 exhaust manifolds. All of which will fit your 1.9
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Opeler
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Columbus, OH
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talked to dennis @ ogts, he said that they are currently out of stock. i'm going to past this in the wanted section later but any other advice would be greatly appreciated. thanks to all so far for the in-depth knowledge.
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Opeler
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Takeoff headers
If you don't readily find one of those headers new, I have one or two lurking in my parts collections and I suspect a lot of Opeler's do. The downside of using those takeoffs is more often than not they have a stuck bolt or two from when they came off which will need to be drilled out, retapped, or otherwise extracted. Removing those is often a bit of an ordeal even with some tools. I have done some of my own. Sometimes successful and other times less so, and once in a while I have taken something with a stuck bolt to a local welding shop. It is less of a headache for you to find a used one which has already been cleaned up. This make sense?
G.S.
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