Release Bearing Replacement

caramiciu · 12-31-2006

Hi..HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL

Now, back to my opelitis.
I purchased a complete clutch assembly (clutch,plate,bearing,etc) from Luke.
All the parts look right except for the bearing.Tried to replace my bearing with the new one and I'm not sure how to do it.The new bearing looks like the right one but the ID is to big????Am I doing something wrong.

If anyone has changed the bearing with one from Luke, please help me.

Thanks

Manta Rallier · 12-31-2006

Are you asking about the bearing in the bell housing that is moved by the clutch throw-out arm (this is called the throw-out bearing), or the bearing that goes into the end of the crankshaft (this is called the pilot bearing)?

Are you replacing the clutch with a stock type or an S10 type?

For the stock type, the throw-out bearing should be a close fit on the metal sleeve on that protrudes out into the bell housing, but should move smoothly. The pilot bearing should fit closely on the front tip of the transmission's input shaft. If either one is loose, then it sounds like you have the wrong one.

Regards,
Mark B.

dcm013 · 12-31-2006

I assume you bought a LuK RepSet. I've put them in both my cars with no problems. Which bearing are you talking about? The clutch release bearing or the pilot bearing in the crankshaft? Why do you think the ID is too big?

The release bearing just snaps into the release lever. The pilot bearing is pressed into the crank. I used the loaner tool from Autozone along with their slide hammer to pull the pilot bearing. With both jaws in place it was too big to fit into the bearing so I had to work it out using only one of the jaws.

Be sure to put the new bearing in with the lettered side facing you. It's thicker and stronger to withstand the force of installation. And be careful not to cock it as it's going in.

caramiciu · 01-01-2007

Sorry...
the clutch release bearing.The clutch is not for the S-10
I took the old one out with no problem but the new one is too big
Thanks

caramiciu · 01-01-2007

I wanted to take a couple of pics..but can't find the cable.
I may be just a little "thick" but it looks like I need to press the old release bearing out with a hand press unles it somehow need to do the turn and snap thing.Looking at the new bearing,it looks like it has opening in the casing that may be used to snap in.
Any pics would be appreciated

Thanks again

caramiciu · 01-02-2007

I guess I don't know how to take the release bearing off the shaft.
I don't want to use a press or anything like that.
The new bearing looks like it may just "clip" in bayonnet style???
Could you describe how you took he oldone off.
thanks a lot

Originally Posted by dcm013

I assume you bought a LuK RepSet. I've put them in both my cars with no problems. Which bearing are you talking about? The clutch release bearing or the pilot bearing in the crankshaft? Why do you think the ID is too big?

The release bearing just snaps into the release lever. The pilot bearing is pressed into the crank. I used the loaner tool from Autozone along with their slide hammer to pull the pilot bearing. With both jaws in place it was too big to fit into the bearing so I had to work it out using only one of the jaws.

Be sure to put the new bearing in with the lettered side facing you. It's thicker and stronger to withstand the force of installation. And be careful not to cock it as it's going in.

namba209 · 01-02-2007

Here's the drill to remove the throw-out bearing, then reverse the procedure to install the new one. First, slip the throw-out arm off the adjustment stud. It's held on by a forked spring attached to the arm. It may be a bit testy to get off, there's a ball/socket arrrangment, so the arm has to go forward just a bit then pull straight out towards the opening in the bellhousing where the arm goes through. Then the bearing can be slid off the tranny input shaft and then removed from the throw-out arm. To install the new bearing, coat the recess, where the pins from the throw-out arm go in to with some hi-temp grease, slide the bearing in to the arm with the pins in the recess, slide the bearing over the input shaft and slide the arm back on to the ball socket of the adjustment stud. That's it. HTH.

ungermm · 01-02-2007

I don't know if I could take the bearing off the shaft without having a press and even then my guess would be I'd be chasing ball bearings all over the floor. I assume you talking about this. You kit should have a release bearing that would slip over the transmission shaft and onto the release fork. Jerry

72 OpelGT 024.jpg

kwilford · 01-02-2007

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kwilford · 01-02-2007

The release bearing should just slide forward off the guide tube and unhook from the fork. I have seen it where the release bearing seizes onto the tube and won't allow itself to be pulled forward to be removed. I think what I did was remove the tube, and IIRC it has a snap ring that holds it to the bell housing. Then I heated the bearing (since it was junk anyway) and "coaxed" it off the tube. That would be coaxing with a hammer! Be careful you don't damage the tube, or get a spare one from another bell housing. Or just another bell housing! HTH

caramiciu · 01-03-2007

Hi Guys,
I got all that,thanks...but
Here are a couple pics
In one of the pictures ,the new bearing is on the bottom right.
The rest is what I took apart,inner and outer sleeves and the balls themself.
The new bearing ID is too large for the inner sleeve and the OD is too large for the outer sleeve.
Something is not right.I either got the wrong bearing or..

ThanksDSCN0532.jpg

DSCN0531.jpg

dcm013 · 01-03-2007

OK, why did you remove your new release bearing from its carrier? The steel sleeve you show in the picture appears to be the carrier from your old bearing.

The bearing always comes as an assembly with a new carrier (the new one may have been plastic vs. the original steel) and you install this new assembly into the release lever.

caramiciu · 01-03-2007

Hi,
the bearing came with a plastic carrier, but that did not fit anything.
I have it and wil try again.
I did talked to dialaclutch and they think they sent me the wrong bearing, they are looking into it.
Will let you know.
the saga continues
Thanks

caramiciu · 01-03-2007

Oh,
I forgot ..
I checked with NAPA (89 chevy S10, 2.8 liter 4X4 with a borg warner T-5 transmissionon)I got from you guys.
They have it and I looked at it.The only difference is that the face that contacts the cluch fingers is flat, not a little round.So I was wondering if it would work correctly because during the engaging motion, the fingers will have a radius motion and the flat surface of the bearing would not allow good contact.
If anybody actually has the part number they have used in a GT, please let me know.
Thanks

12-31-2006	#1 (permalink)
caramiciu Opeler Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Dracut,MA Posts: 152 Real Name: Marius	Unanswered: clutch bearing Hi..HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL Now, back to my opelitis. I purchased a complete clutch assembly (clutch,plate,bearing,etc) from Luke. All the parts look right except for the bearing.Tried to replace my bearing with the new one and I'm not sure how to do it.The new bearing looks like the right one but the ID is to big????Am I doing something wrong. If anyone has changed the bearing with one from Luke, please help me. Thanks

01-01-2007	#5 (permalink)
caramiciu Opeler Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Dracut,MA Posts: 152 Real Name: Marius	clutch release bearing I wanted to take a couple of pics..but can't find the cable. I may be just a little "thick" but it looks like I need to press the old release bearing out with a hand press unles it somehow need to do the turn and snap thing.Looking at the new bearing,it looks like it has opening in the casing that may be used to snap in. Any pics would be appreciated Thanks again

01-02-2007	#7 (permalink)
namba209 6,000 Post Club Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Imperial Beach, CA South of San Diego Posts: 6,054 Provided Answers: 6	Here's the drill to remove the throw-out bearing, then reverse the procedure to install the new one. First, slip the throw-out arm off the adjustment stud. It's held on by a forked spring attached to the arm. It may be a bit testy to get off, there's a ball/socket arrrangment, so the arm has to go forward just a bit then pull straight out towards the opening in the bellhousing where the arm goes through. Then the bearing can be slid off the tranny input shaft and then removed from the throw-out arm. To install the new bearing, coat the recess, where the pins from the throw-out arm go in to with some hi-temp grease, slide the bearing in to the arm with the pins in the recess, slide the bearing over the input shaft and slide the arm back on to the ball socket of the adjustment stud. That's it. HTH. __________________ Ron 72 GT 3.4L V-6/T-5/ZF posi - almost done - Just need AC installed. 75 Chevy monza 5.7L/TH350/Auburn 3.08 posi - Next

01-02-2007	#9 (permalink)
kwilford Über OpelGT.com Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,087 Real Name: Keith Wilford Provided Answers: 4	Moderator Note: Posts split to new thread __________________ Keith Wilford working on my '71 GT and '75 SportWagon

01-02-2007	#10 (permalink)
kwilford Über OpelGT.com Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,087 Real Name: Keith Wilford Provided Answers: 4	The release bearing should just slide forward off the guide tube and unhook from the fork. I have seen it where the release bearing seizes onto the tube and won't allow itself to be pulled forward to be removed. I think what I did was remove the tube, and IIRC it has a snap ring that holds it to the bell housing. Then I heated the bearing (since it was junk anyway) and "coaxed" it off the tube. That would be coaxing with a hammer! Be careful you don't damage the tube, or get a spare one from another bell housing. Or just another bell housing! HTH __________________ Keith Wilford working on my '71 GT and '75 SportWagon

12-31-2006	#2 (permalink)
Manta Rallier Opeler Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Afton VA Posts: 152	Are you asking about the bearing in the bell housing that is moved by the clutch throw-out arm (this is called the throw-out bearing), or the bearing that goes into the end of the crankshaft (this is called the pilot bearing)? Are you replacing the clutch with a stock type or an S10 type? For the stock type, the throw-out bearing should be a close fit on the metal sleeve on that protrudes out into the bell housing, but should move smoothly. The pilot bearing should fit closely on the front tip of the transmission's input shaft. If either one is loose, then it sounds like you have the wrong one. Regards, Mark B.

12-31-2006	#3 (permalink)
dcm013 Opeler Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Troy, MI Posts: 333	I assume you bought a LuK RepSet. I've put them in both my cars with no problems. Which bearing are you talking about? The clutch release bearing or the pilot bearing in the crankshaft? Why do you think the ID is too big? The release bearing just snaps into the release lever. The pilot bearing is pressed into the crank. I used the loaner tool from Autozone along with their slide hammer to pull the pilot bearing. With both jaws in place it was too big to fit into the bearing so I had to work it out using only one of the jaws. Be sure to put the new bearing in with the lettered side facing you. It's thicker and stronger to withstand the force of installation. And be careful not to cock it as it's going in.

01-01-2007	#4 (permalink)
caramiciu Opeler Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Dracut,MA Posts: 152 Real Name: Marius	Sorry... the clutch release bearing.The clutch is not for the S-10 I took the old one out with no problem but the new one is too big Thanks

01-02-2007	#8 (permalink)
ungermm UngerDog Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pleasanton, CA Posts: 767 Provided Answers: 5	I don't know if I could take the bearing off the shaft without having a press and even then my guess would be I'd be chasing ball bearings all over the floor. I assume you talking about this. You kit should have a release bearing that would slip over the transmission shaft and onto the release fork. Jerry 72 OpelGT 024.jpg

01-03-2007	#11 (permalink)
caramiciu Opeler Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Dracut,MA Posts: 152 Real Name: Marius	Hi Guys, I got all that,thanks...but Here are a couple pics In one of the pictures ,the new bearing is on the bottom right. The rest is what I took apart,inner and outer sleeves and the balls themself. The new bearing ID is too large for the inner sleeve and the OD is too large for the outer sleeve. Something is not right.I either got the wrong bearing or.. ThanksDSCN0532.jpg DSCN0531.jpg

01-03-2007	#12 (permalink)
dcm013 Opeler Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Troy, MI Posts: 333	OK, why did you remove your new release bearing from its carrier? The steel sleeve you show in the picture appears to be the carrier from your old bearing. The bearing always comes as an assembly with a new carrier (the new one may have been plastic vs. the original steel) and you install this new assembly into the release lever.

01-03-2007	#13 (permalink)
caramiciu Opeler Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Dracut,MA Posts: 152 Real Name: Marius	Release bearing Hi, the bearing came with a plastic carrier, but that did not fit anything. I have it and wil try again. I did talked to dialaclutch and they think they sent me the wrong bearing, they are looking into it. Will let you know. the saga continues Thanks

01-03-2007	#14 (permalink)
caramiciu Opeler Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Dracut,MA Posts: 152 Real Name: Marius	bearing release Oh, I forgot .. I checked with NAPA (89 chevy S10, 2.8 liter 4X4 with a borg warner T-5 transmissionon)I got from you guys. They have it and I looked at it.The only difference is that the face that contacts the cluch fingers is flat, not a little round.So I was wondering if it would work correctly because during the engaging motion, the fingers will have a radius motion and the flat surface of the bearing would not allow good contact. If anybody actually has the part number they have used in a GT, please let me know. Thanks

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