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Old 06-07-2009   #1 (permalink)
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I have a 73 1900 wagon. Needs a new or rebuilt carb. Found one on ebay OPEL CADETTE GT NEW CARB PROG 2 BBL FACTORY NEW:eBay Motors (item 300319432860 end time Jun-08-09 13:21:44 PDT) that closes tomorrow. I cannot determine whether this model will be a drop in replacement. The other one offered on ebay from a club looks cool but I'm not looking for performance..just a running car. Can anyone confirm that this one will work? Thanks!

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Thanks for the insight. I may just let a local shop rebuild the existing carb. I was trying to save me money and them trouble (only the old-timers in the shop know about carbs). If this sounds like the wrong road to go down feel free to tell me.
What is the existing carb? If is the stock Solex, then yes, that is the wrong road completely. A total waste of time and money. Some folks swear by the Solex. That would be Otto. The rest of us quit swearing AT Solex's YEARS ago when we found out how simple, and how much better, Weber DGV carbs are, even when not quite jetted properly.

You'll be several hundred dollars and many curses ahead by simply buying a proper Weber. If you aren't comfortable buying one from eBay, spend a few extra $ and go to

Weber Carburetors,Carburators,Conversion Kits - Pierce Manifolds Inc.

or

Weber Carburetors Carbs 40 DCOE 45 DCOE 32/36 32/34 Jeep

or OGTS or one of the other reputable Weber supply shops and they will spec out a Weber with jets that are close enough to get you in the ball park. Then further jetting can be done as or if required.

HTH
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This is not an exact replacement, will it work? Who knows. For that kind of money, buy a Weber. Like this one: 160335728256, or this one 260420840079 or even this one 270400754430.

There are lots of them on Ebay, just search for Weber 32/36
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Originally Posted by baltopel View Post
I have a 73 1900 wagon. Needs a new or rebuilt carb. Found one on ebay OPEL CADETTE GT NEW CARB PROG 2 BBL FACTORY NEW:eBay Motors (item 300319432860 end time Jun-08-09 13:21:44 PDT) that closes tomorrow. I cannot determine whether this model will be a drop in replacement. The other one offered on ebay from a club looks cool but I'm not looking for performance..just a running car. Can anyone confirm that this one will work? Thanks!
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This is not an exact replacement, will it work? Who knows.
This is not even an inexact replacement, as it will simply not fit the intake manifold. Take Paul's advice and buy the correct Weber, such as he has searched and found for you. That second one is a decent price at $189, and it is a DGEV (technically the "E" just stands for an electric choke) so it is easy to hook up (no water hoses to the choke). Just remember that you WILL have to re-jet it. There isn't a carb in the world, even directly from OGTS, that will be jetted correctly "out of the box".

Oh, and you'll need new gaskets for the base, and the old linkage ball and lever off of your old Solex, and an air filter or adaptor, and new manifold studs (the OEM studs are too long, although some folks work around them by either adding washers or cutting the old studs down)

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But imagine the gas mileage that you'd get with those tiny butterflies!
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Thanks for the insight

Thanks for the insight. I may just let a local shop rebuild the existing carb. I was trying to save me money and them trouble (only the old-timers in the shop know about carbs). If this sounds like the wrong road to go down feel free to tell me.

The last Opel I owned was in the 70's. That experience inspired me to buy this one. Now I am finding that what I recall mechanics saying was an easy car to work on is not so easy because too many mechanics only know what the computer tells them.

Thanks so much for all the help/advice.
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Originally Posted by baltopel View Post
Thanks for the insight. I may just let a local shop rebuild the existing carb. I was trying to save me money and them trouble (only the old-timers in the shop know about carbs). If this sounds like the wrong road to go down feel free to tell me.
What is the existing carb? If is the stock Solex, then yes, that is the wrong road completely. A total waste of time and money. Some folks swear by the Solex. That would be Otto. The rest of us quit swearing AT Solex's YEARS ago when we found out how simple, and how much better, Weber DGV carbs are, even when not quite jetted properly.

You'll be several hundred dollars and many curses ahead by simply buying a proper Weber. If you aren't comfortable buying one from eBay, spend a few extra $ and go to

Weber Carburetors,Carburators,Conversion Kits - Pierce Manifolds Inc.

or

Weber Carburetors Carbs 40 DCOE 45 DCOE 32/36 32/34 Jeep

or OGTS or one of the other reputable Weber supply shops and they will spec out a Weber with jets that are close enough to get you in the ball park. Then further jetting can be done as or if required.

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Originally Posted by baltopel View Post
Thanks for the insight. I may just let a local shop rebuild the existing carb. I was trying to save me money and them trouble (only the old-timers in the shop know about carbs). If this sounds like the wrong road to go down feel free to tell me.

The last Opel I owned was in the 70's. That experience inspired me to buy this one. Now I am finding that what I recall mechanics saying was an easy car to work on is not so easy because too many mechanics only know what the computer tells them.

Thanks so much for all the help/advice.
Solex carbs. are a lot like Qudrajets, you either love them or hate them, there is no middle of the road. When one of them is right they work very well, when one in not right they are a royal PITA to get right. Solex has a lot more openings than a Weber and they at very sensitive to dirt which make the average Joe out on a limb when it comes to tuning them. Most if not all of the modern Automotive Techs, where trained on the plug and play method of finding a problem rather than logical deduction of a problem, but older mechanics have the same problem with the new computerized this and sensored that, that requires a computer to tell you what the problem is. True story, I once bought a GT that was idle for a long period of time, it had a Weber 32/36 on it that had a dirt-dauber nest built inside the air horn. After putting plugs, points and condenser on the engine, I took the carb off, turned it upside down and cleaned the dirt-dauber nest out and sprayed some carb cleaner around in the top of it, fired it up and drove it 135 miles back to where I lived. Try that one with your Solex

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What is the existing carb? If is the stock Solex, then yes, that is the wrong road completely. A total waste of time and money. Some folks swear by the Solex. That would be Otto. The rest of us quit swearing AT Solex's YEARS ago when we found out how simple, and how much better, Weber DGV carbs are, even when not quite jetted properly.

You'll be several hundred dollars and many curses ahead by simply buying a proper Weber. If you aren't comfortable buying one from eBay, spend a few extra $ and go to

Weber Carburetors,Carburators,Conversion Kits - Pierce Manifolds Inc.

or

Weber Carburetors Carbs 40 DCOE 45 DCOE 32/36 32/34 Jeep

or OGTS or one of the other reputable Weber supply shops and they will spec out a Weber with jets that are close enough to get you in the ball park. Then further jetting can be done as or if required.

HTH
I purchased a weber from Carbs Unlimited with everything I might need but the jet kit (hope to not need it) for $300. Thanks for the help and wish me well. Next...back to the brake project.
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that carburetor shown on ebay is for a Toyota 2TC or 3TC 6/74 onwards. Another reason to put a Weber on.
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