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wattiefan · 01-09-2008

This might have already been talked about but does anybody have the high bid on this opel? eBay Motors: Opel (item 280189465349 end time Jan-11-08 08:48:39 PST)
What do you think? Does any member of the sight have a daily driver wagon?
If i only had the money, and a means to pick it up i might of bid on it.

GTJIM · 01-10-2008

The text mentions it is a 1973 build year but first titled in 1975 - explains no F.I.

Got to be worth the candle ... for the seats alone!

Gary Sullivan · 01-10-2008

I really like those wagons. The one seems to need a lot. When I looked at the pix I still haven't figured out what is happening there in the engine bay. There are some things there I don't recognize (I have 75's) It also doesn't have fuel injection. So I guess it has been removed and a carb put in. Other questions I had was how long he has had it and what he's done to it. The owner said he had done some tuneup and it still isn't running well. Could be the engine also won't pass inspection along with the windshield. You might ask if he has any other pix,
particularly of the areas which are prone to rust: under the battery, lower fender behind the rear wheels and the left and right front frame member just below where your feet rest.
Best of luck
Gary

hrcollinsjr · 01-10-2008

Clues to year. I don't remember which items go with what years but I do remember a few differences under the hood. Windshield washer nozzles, earlier style distributor is there, metal vs. plastic air inlet to right of radiator, I couldn't make out whether the wheels were '74 or '75. Someone referred to the dash being a '74/'75 dash, I never saw it in the pics, the '75 will have "unleaded only" where the fuel gauge is.

Harold

oldopelguy · 01-10-2008

The year issue has already been discussed, see above. This wagon is a 1973 model. It sat on a showroom floor until it was sold new in 1975. Some states title based on manufacture date, some on model year, some on when it was imported, some on when it was sold the first time, and in some states you get to choose. It just so happens that the state that created a title fo this car the first time went off when it was sold, in 1975, so it has a '75 title.

jvandyke · 01-10-2008

Originally Posted by Gary Sullivan

Could be the engine also won't pass inspection along with the windshield.
Gary

We don't inspect anything in Michigan (that I've ever heard of) so don't expect whether it was titled here or not to mean anything as far as mechanicals go.

bgdowski · 01-10-2008

Ohhhh to live in Michigan and not have Emission laws enforced

Paul · 01-10-2008

My guess is... it's a 74 model. The big bumpers say 74. The windshield washer squirters say 74. The engine compartment indicates an FI system never was installed in this car. The build date of 12/73 says its a 74.

Glad I didn't step in it....

Gary Sullivan · 01-10-2008

If this car is, as OldOpelGuy said, actually a 73 model and sat on a showroom floor until 75 so was titled as a 75, then if that is the way titling is done, then a different car for sale, that blue 73 showroom Opel GT currently for sale for example, could be sold as a 2008? That doesn't compute. It would seem the year a title is issued shouldn't have anything to do with the year of the car. Maybe there is something else I am missing (other than my marbles).
Gary

deanh74_2 · 01-10-2008

Originally Posted by bgdowski

Ohhhh to live in Michigan and not have Emission laws enforced

Here in Wisconsin, I live in the best of both worlds. I actually live in Walaorth county barely. In the counties to the east and north of me (Waukesha, Milwaukee, Racine, Kenosha) all have emissions. I sometimes have to fight if I have a vehicle and title it. There is also another twist to this but that is a longer story...

Dean

oldopelguy · 01-10-2008

Originally Posted by Gary Sullivan

If this car is, as OldOpelGuy said, actually a 73 model and sat on a showroom floor until 75 so was titled as a 75, then if that is the way titling is done, then a different car for sale, that blue 73 showroom Opel GT currently for sale for example, could be sold as a 2008? That doesn't compute. It would seem the year a title is issued shouldn't have anything to do with the year of the car. Maybe there is something else I am missing (other than my marbles).
Gary

It varies state to state, and applies as a general rule only to imported cars. In SD, which is the only state I actually know vary well, you can actually choose which way you go if there has never been a title issued for the car. MN must be similar, as my 1967 Opel Admiral is titled as a 1969, which was the year it was imported. In some states that new on the showroom floor 1973 Opel could certainly be titled as a 2008, but if you did that and had to get it inspected, it would certainly not meet current standards.

trailblazer2727 · 01-10-2008

In most states years ago, the year the vehicle was sold to be registered, was when the title was issued. Jeep used to send the VIN plates to the dealers and THEY stamped them when they sold them. If they sat unsold the build dates on some of them can be years different from the title date. Rich

namba209 · 01-10-2008

On the CA registration, there is a block that says year first sold. That's how it's done here, but the year of manufacture is also stated on the registration.

Gary Sullivan · 01-10-2008

That's really amazing.

Rionart · 01-10-2008

This is it's third time through e-bay.
I was high bidder on the previous 2 auctions, although it did not reach reserve.
I will try to be high bidder again this time, but I still don't think it will make reserve...

timemachine · 01-10-2008

Looks like some dents in the hood on the driver's side and at the left rear side marker. Besides the rust on the right quarter, it's hard to see what's going on or pasted up on the lower edges of the panels or jack points. Gotta love the bug guts green and those seat covers.

Rob, how many Opels do you have now and what's up with the '72 Rallye you showed us at Carlisle?

Jim

Rionart · 01-10-2008

Hey Jim,
I'm at 20 complete cars and 3 'remains' at the moment...

The Rallye is 'sleeping' under cover for the Winter, and while I mess around with some non-Opel projects:
1965 Winchester Taxi
1980 Checker Marathon
1989 Cadillac Sedan Deville
I think the Green Wagon will go nicely with "Green Eh", my '74 Signal Green Manta....

saxybiker · 01-10-2008

Originally Posted by Rionart

I think the Green Wagon will go nicely with "Green Eh", my '74 Sigmal Green Manta....

Exactly what I thought when I saw the auction!!

Phoenix · 01-11-2008

Those seats must be in really bad condition to leave those seat covers on.

Rob, would you show the car with those covers?

Rionart · 01-11-2008

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Those seats must be in really bad condition to leave those seat covers on.

Rob, would you show the car with those covers?

Somehow I doubt it....

But if you really like them I'll save them for you...

timemachine · 01-11-2008

So who won the auction? Good to see someone finally hit the reserve. It will be interesting to see what happens to this car.

Jim

Rionart · 01-11-2008

Originally Posted by timemachine

So who won the auction? Good to see someone finally hit the reserve. It will be interesting to see what happens to this car.

Jim

I know nothing.....

But I do know that phoenix is getting a pair of seat covers...

timemachine · 01-11-2008

Originally Posted by Rionart

I know nothing.....
But I do know that phoenix is getting a pair of seat covers...

So YOU'RE the guy who buys all that body creme and Celtic Woman CDs! I guess you're not so tough under the surface Rob.

Congrats on the car.

Jim

Rionart · 01-11-2008

Originally Posted by timemachine

So YOU'RE the guy who buys all that body creme and Celtic Woman CDs! I guess you're not so tough under the surface Rob.

Congrats on the car.

Jim

Ah Jim,
Your giving away all my secrets!!....
Although I'm a Celtic Woman fan for many reasons, here's one:

YouTube - Tribute For Mairead

Anyone who can look this hot, and play the fiddle while dancing get's my vote!!...and yes, I've seen them live, and yes she now has a restraining order against me!!

Phoenix · 01-11-2008

Originally Posted by Rionart

I know nothing.....
But I do know that phoenix is getting a pair of seat covers...

They would go great with a set of fuzzy dice and a furry steering wheel cover... but not on any of my cars.

01-09-2008	#1 (permalink)
wattiefan Opeler Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Chanhassen, MN Posts: 111 Real Name: Nickolas	Unanswered: Ebay Motors This might have already been talked about but does anybody have the high bid on this opel? eBay Motors: Opel (item 280189465349 end time Jan-11-08 08:48:39 PST) What do you think? Does any member of the sight have a daily driver wagon? If i only had the money, and a means to pick it up i might of bid on it.

01-10-2008	#3 (permalink)
Gary Sullivan Opeler Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 133	The Green Machine I really like those wagons. The one seems to need a lot. When I looked at the pix I still haven't figured out what is happening there in the engine bay. There are some things there I don't recognize (I have 75's) It also doesn't have fuel injection. So I guess it has been removed and a carb put in. Other questions I had was how long he has had it and what he's done to it. The owner said he had done some tuneup and it still isn't running well. Could be the engine also won't pass inspection along with the windshield. You might ask if he has any other pix, particularly of the areas which are prone to rust: under the battery, lower fender behind the rear wheels and the left and right front frame member just below where your feet rest. Best of luck Gary __________________ NYAsconaGuy

01-10-2008	#5 (permalink)
oldopelguy Have Opel, Will Travel Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Saint Michael, MN Posts: 1,727 Logbook Entries: 3 Provided Answers: 2	The year issue has already been discussed, see above. This wagon is a 1973 model. It sat on a showroom floor until it was sold new in 1975. Some states title based on manufacture date, some on model year, some on when it was imported, some on when it was sold the first time, and in some states you get to choose. It just so happens that the state that created a title fo this car the first time went off when it was sold, in 1975, so it has a '75 title. __________________ 1958 Rekord Sedan, 1958 Olympia Wagon, 1959 Opel Olympia Sedan, 1967 Kadett Coupe, 1967 Admiral Sedan 4L CIH-6, 1968 Kadett fastback 1.1L, 1970 Kadett Wagon Turbo 2.2L, 1971 Kadett Sedan 1.1L, 1975 Manta Wagon 4.3L V-6

01-10-2008	#7 (permalink)
bgdowski Opel GT Pilot Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dearborn Heights, MI Posts: 100	Ohhhh to live in Michigan and not have Emission laws enforced __________________ Currently in Daytona Beach, FL working towards my Bachelor's in Aeronautical Sciences (Professional Pilot).

01-10-2008	#8 (permalink)
Paul Member 1000 Post Club Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ft Smith, Arkansas Posts: 1,481 Provided Answers: 1	My guess is... it's a 74 model. The big bumpers say 74. The windshield washer squirters say 74. The engine compartment indicates an FI system never was installed in this car. The build date of 12/73 says its a 74. Glad I didn't step in it.... __________________ Paul

01-10-2008	#4 (permalink)
hrcollinsjr 2200 Post Club Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chapel Hill, TN Posts: 2,267 Real Name: Harold Collins Provided Answers: 14	Clues to year. I don't remember which items go with what years but I do remember a few differences under the hood. Windshield washer nozzles, earlier style distributor is there, metal vs. plastic air inlet to right of radiator, I couldn't make out whether the wheels were '74 or '75. Someone referred to the dash being a '74/'75 dash, I never saw it in the pics, the '75 will have "unleaded only" where the fuel gauge is. Harold

01-10-2008	#9 (permalink)
Gary Sullivan Opeler Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 133	Changing the year of the car?? If this car is, as OldOpelGuy said, actually a 73 model and sat on a showroom floor until 75 so was titled as a 75, then if that is the way titling is done, then a different car for sale, that blue 73 showroom Opel GT currently for sale for example, could be sold as a 2008? That doesn't compute. It would seem the year a title is issued shouldn't have anything to do with the year of the car. Maybe there is something else I am missing (other than my marbles). Gary __________________ NYAsconaGuy

01-10-2008	#12 (permalink)
trailblazer2727 Opeler Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pa. U.S.A. Posts: 39	title year In most states years ago, the year the vehicle was sold to be registered, was when the title was issued. Jeep used to send the VIN plates to the dealers and THEY stamped them when they sold them. If they sat unsold the build dates on some of them can be years different from the title date. Rich

01-10-2008	#13 (permalink)
namba209 6,000 Post Club Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Imperial Beach, CA South of San Diego Posts: 6,054 Provided Answers: 6	On the CA registration, there is a block that says year first sold. That's how it's done here, but the year of manufacture is also stated on the registration. __________________ Ron 72 GT 3.4L V-6/T-5/ZF posi - almost done - Just need AC installed. 75 Chevy monza 5.7L/TH350/Auburn 3.08 posi - Next

01-10-2008	#14 (permalink)
Gary Sullivan Opeler Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 133	Hmmmm.. That's really amazing. __________________ NYAsconaGuy

01-10-2008	#15 (permalink)
Rionart Manta Maniac Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,186 Provided Answers: 3	Hum de hum.... This is it's third time through e-bay. I was high bidder on the previous 2 auctions, although it did not reach reserve. I will try to be high bidder again this time, but I still don't think it will make reserve... __________________ Politicians and diapers have one thing in common. They should both be changed regularly and for the same reason.

01-10-2008	#16 (permalink)
timemachine Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Swarthmore, PA Posts: 871 Real Name: Jim Provided Answers: 7	Looks like some dents in the hood on the driver's side and at the left rear side marker. Besides the rust on the right quarter, it's hard to see what's going on or pasted up on the lower edges of the panels or jack points. Gotta love the bug guts green and those seat covers. Rob, how many Opels do you have now and what's up with the '72 Rallye you showed us at Carlisle? Jim __________________ '74 Manta ("Sig") '75 Sportwagon (project) '72 GT (whenever I get to it) Sold or wrecked: '72 Manta Rallye '73 Manta '74 Luxus

01-10-2008	#17 (permalink)
Rionart Manta Maniac Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,186 Provided Answers: 3	Hey Jim, I'm at 20 complete cars and 3 'remains' at the moment... The Rallye is 'sleeping' under cover for the Winter, and while I mess around with some non-Opel projects: 1965 Winchester Taxi 1980 Checker Marathon 1989 Cadillac Sedan Deville I think the Green Wagon will go nicely with "Green Eh", my '74 Signal Green Manta.... __________________ Politicians and diapers have one thing in common. They should both be changed regularly and for the same reason. Last edited by Rionart; 01-10-2008 at 09:33 PM.

01-11-2008	#19 (permalink)
Phoenix Trouble Maker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Snellville, Ga Posts: 1,970 Real Name: Tony Holcomb Provided Answers: 2	Those seats must be in really bad condition to leave those seat covers on. Rob, would you show the car with those covers? __________________ Needs a 2dr Ascona, everyone else has one.

01-11-2008	#21 (permalink)
timemachine Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Swarthmore, PA Posts: 871 Real Name: Jim Provided Answers: 7	So who won the auction? Good to see someone finally hit the reserve. It will be interesting to see what happens to this car. Jim __________________ '74 Manta ("Sig") '75 Sportwagon (project) '72 GT (whenever I get to it) Sold or wrecked: '72 Manta Rallye '73 Manta '74 Luxus

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