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Old 04-15-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Unanswered: New tyres and rims

Put some new tyres on the rims I repainted last weekend, it was a lot of work but they are good looking some photo's :







The rims were completely sanded to bare metal sprayed with a rust binder, then sprayed with a mild wash primer and then the front was sprayed semi-gloss black [did this a few months ago] last Saturday I masked the black parts and sprayed the rims silver
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yes they do look good. Dennis G told me what the correct gray color was at Springfield last year but I have forgotten. Who knows what the correct gray shade is?
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Lookin Good! The car could use a paintjob as well
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I have been using rustoliom matt silver on my GT wheels, Looks great but not factory. Don't think that the spelling is right for the paint. But close. I have pics on my photo
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I have done that job a couple of times, too. It is some work, but well worth it. Looking good, Erick.
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Originally Posted by Sparky73 View Post
Lookin Good! The car could use a paintjob as well
working on an other Ascona, so I'll be giving that one a paintjob

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I have done that job a couple of times, too. It is some work, but well worth it. Looking good, Erick.
Thank you Hallgeir, I've still got 8 more to go
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Where can I get those rims? They look really nice.
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Originally Posted by 74Opel1900 View Post
Where can I get those rims? They look really nice.
Those are the stock, on 1975 Mantas/Asconas only, 5.5x13" Rostyle wheels
with eight slots vs the earlier 5x13 4 long slot wheels that came on Manta's.
They are designed to clear the bigger front brakes on the '75's but they fit the 71-74 Asconas/Mantas like a glove.
The GT's got 4 slots too but with a different offset.

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I just had 205-60/13 Sumitomo HTR 200's put on my '75 Rostyles at several peoples recommendations
on the forums and they are a great setup to improve handleing ride and lower gearing a bit from stock 3:44 to 1 with the 165-80/13 tires, to an effective 3:55 to 1 with the 205-60's. They Make my automatic manta feel a little more peppy too. Cheap too. About $300 for 4 shipped from tirerack.com, mounted and Hunter Road Force Balanced locally by one of the racks recommended installers. Even though they are sold as a summer tire, they actually work okay in the snow the day I drove back from the installer.
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I like that setup for the summer. I'll keep the stockers for the winter.
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Congratulations they look very well, but these wheels and center cup was not from the Ascona/Manta A.

The Manta/Ascona A rally type had only 4 holes and not double 4 groups of holes.

The center cup had black background on a crome arc and Aluminiun Opel logo.

Your wheels and cup are from Ascona/Manta B
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Originally Posted by roger morgan View Post
Congratulations they look very well, but these wheels and center cup was not from the Ascona/Manta A.
The Manta/Ascona A rally type had only 4 holes and not double 4 groups of holes.
The center cup had black background on a crome arc and Aluminiun Opel logo.
Your wheels and cup are from Ascona/Manta B

His center cups may not be Manta A/Ascona A but, his 13x5.5" wheels are.
They were used on 1975 Manta A's and Ascona A's to clear the larger
front brake calipers. Here is another pic of mine on my 1975 Manta
including the optional beauty rings. Not sure which markets besides NA got them.
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Originally Posted by roger morgan View Post
Congratulations they look very well, but these wheels and center cup was not from the Ascona/Manta A.
The Manta/Ascona A rally type had only 4 holes and not double 4 groups of holes.
The center cup had black background on a crome arc and Aluminiun Opel logo.
Your wheels and cup are from Ascona/Manta B
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His center cups may not be Manta A/Ascona A but, his 13x5.5" wheels are.
They were used on 1975 Manta A's and Ascona A's to clear the larger
front brake calipers. Here is another pic of mine on my 1975 Manta
including the optional beauty rings. Not sure which markets besides NA got them.
Thanks Aardvaark, but the center cups are also "A" type, there were two diffrent models here in Holland, one with the black plastic opel badge and an other only with the Opel badge pressed into the cup, the other type with the black underground and silver Opel badge, I've never seen it until I saw a photo here on the forum
So it seems that Opel used diffrent types of cups with diffrent models an diffrent country's
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Mark! Get your Opel out of the SNOW!!
Hee,hee. Unfortunately it had, and was still, snowing the morning I took it to the tire shop to have my new Sumitomo's from Tire rack installed. Actually for
them being only summer tires the HTR200's worked pretty well in about four
inches of the white stuff. That will be the last snow it sees in a good
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I had two versions of the Ascona and Manta A parts catalogue, and on the wheels group show two types of wheels, one with a chrome cup and the rallye type and with these configuration.

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My car is from 1974 and had the wheels had this shape

Also I inform that some time ago I buy an Ebay item, from USA that is this center cups, as we see on the picture.

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Here there are the cataloge parts picture from Ascona and Mantas A about the wheels group.
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Originally Posted by roger morgan View Post
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Here there are the catalogue parts picture from Ascona and Mantas A about the wheels group.
That is all true for the 1974 Ascona/Manta, but the 1975 Ascona/Manta (at least the ones imported into North America) which are still the "A" series all had the 13x5 1/2 J wheels (versus 5 inch for the earlier years) with the split slots as shown above.
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Originally Posted by roger morgan View Post
I had two versions of the Ascona and Manta A parts catalogue, and on the wheels group show two types of wheels, one with a chrome cup and the rallye type and with these configuration.
My car is from 1974 and had the wheels had this shape
Also I inform that some time ago I buy an Ebay item, from USA that is this center cups, as we see on the picture.
Roger. I'm not quit sure what your referring to as the "rallye" style wheel.
Many times on these forums I've seen people incorrectly identify wheels but I've never bothered to set the record straight.

So, and maybe this is what your saying, your 1974 wheels as you show in your picture in the trunk is the 1973 and 1974 4-slot "Rostyle" design wheel.
Also the 1975 8-slot I have on my Manta
and 2 fast 4 U are the Opel 8-slot "Rostyle" wheel and not the Rallye or Rally wheel design. I'm posting a picture of the Rallye wheel below.

The Rally wheel name originated in 1967 with the Chevrolet Camaro and this design of wheel that came with it's optional Rallye Package. The name has stuck since with any wheel of this design.

The Rostyle design originated on the late 60's and early 70's MGB and MG Midget. Iirc, Rostyle was a design firm that originated this type of stamped
steel 4 and 5 spoke slotted wheel.

Just setting the record straight if there is any misunderstanding.

The wheel on this silver Manta below is the Opel 15 hole Rallye wheel design with large chrome center and came on the '71, '72 and '73 Manta Rallye and also, I believe, the GT in some years.
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I want these wheels:
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Two questions, will they fit my 74 Ascona and where can I get them?
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Two questions, will they fit my 74 Ascona and where can I get them?
Yes they will fit, and just about every Opeler should have at least one in their inventory. The ones in your attached picture are the 73-74, the 75 ones have a tiny bar in each one of the 4 openings. Like in Mark's post # 11. The 75 wheels will fit your car too.
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Thanks for that clear and concise answer. I want these for my summer setup. I'll post in the wanted section once I'm ready to buy.
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Roger. I'm not quit sure what your referring to as the "rallye" style wheel.
Here in Europe I presume thal all Ascona and Manta A productions had the wheels as the mines in the SR's and Luxury models. The others wheels whith 8 square holes are only from the models "B"

Anybody from Europe can confirm this? Here in Portugal all "A" had as the wheels as my Ascona A. The 8 holes are from B's Ascona and Manta.

Rallye type or style was the wheels as the picture and as the parts catologue tells.

http://www.opelgt.com/forums/attachm...a-1900-s-4.jpg

The "Rostyle" wheel was the british wheels as the Ford Capri, some MGB and others.

The Opel wheels are not Rostyle's. Meanwhile the design was similar.
USA members can confirm that 75 Ascona and Manta A imports had the "B" type wheels (with 8 square holes).

You are sure about this?

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Here in Europe I presume thal all Ascona and Manta A productions had the wheels as the mines in the SR's and Luxury models. The others wheels whith 8 square holes are only from the models "B"

Anybody from Europe can confirm this? Here in Portugal all "A" had as the wheels as my Ascona A. The 8 holes are from B's Ascona and Manta.

Rallye type or style was the wheels as the picture and as the parts catologue tells.

http://www.opelgt.com/forums/attachm...a-1900-s-4.jpg

The "Rostyle" wheel was the british wheels as the Ford Capri, some MGB and others.

The Opel wheels are not Rostyle's. Meanwhile the design was similar.
USA members can confirm that 75 Ascona and Manta A imports had the "B" type wheels (with 8 square holes).

You are sure about this?
Here is the US, we only got the 8 hole wheels on the 75 models.
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Here are stock 72 GT wheels and tires from Pep Boys. I think they are referred to as rallye wheels.

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Opps, I guess I don't belong in this forum. Sorry, my bad.
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