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Cunning Linguist
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Unanswered: My 1900 . . . uh, Ascona S!
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Otto:
I have a couple of "ASCONA" badges too, but, was at a loss as to where they mounted to the Wagon, 'till just this week. See picture below
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"Yes, I do have a rifle rack in my Sportwagon" Last edited by tekenaar; 07-06-2008 at 01:51 AM. Reason: at a lost |
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My Flickr photos. Jan. 3, 1984 - Jan. 3, 2009, that's 25 years of this damn Opelitis! C.R.L. 9/22/69 - 12/8/99, J.M.L. 3/3/43 - 6/15/04 |
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But the smart thing to do would be for me to dig out my Opel microfische machine and just look it up, right? ![]() Bob
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Model with a low compression engine 1.6 N [not sure if there was a 1.9 N engine] Ascona S: Model with a high compression engine 1.6 S or 1.9 S Ascona SR: Model with a high compression engine 1.6 S or 1.9 S, and with visual trimmings: 3 gauges in the middle console and, as we call them here, cross rims or clover rims. There also is an Ascona with a 1.2 engine, don't know if it was a high or low comp engine. hth
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Opel Ascona; driving one is like living on the edge. Only built from 1970 - 1975 Last edited by tekenaar; 07-07-2008 at 10:59 PM. Reason: optic; middel - Dutch |
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yes correct, some additions: 1.9 low compression (75 hp) and and 1.2 low compression (55 hp) were not available for the Ascona/Manta A vehicles. 1.6 S high compression had 75 or 80 hp. The 1.6 S 80 hp head is a real rarity. In combination with a 1.9.s or 2.0 s engine block, the engine runs fantastic. btw, very, very few cars (less than 50) with the 1,7 engine were built for the Egypt market. Last edited by tekenaar; 07-07-2008 at 11:00 PM. |
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That I didn't know
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Hallgeir Opels now: -69 GT 1900, -95 Omega B 2,5 V6 CD Aut. Previous Opels: -91 Omega A 2,0i, -85 Ascona 1,6S CC, -78 Ascona 1,9S, -81 Commodore 2,5S Berlina, -82 Ascona 1,6S CC, -78 Ascona 1,9S, -72 Ascona 1,6S http://www.opelgt.com/forums/vbgoogl...4650269&zoom=5 |
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Out of curiosity, how does it compare to the 19H head used on the "sprint" engines . . . it had a smaller combustion chamber to raise the compression to 9.5:1 . . .
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"Red S" badging
I painted the edges black on mine . . . red just didn't look right next to the Fireglow paint . . . I digress.
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I can see your point on the red/fireglow.
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Hallgeir Opels now: -69 GT 1900, -95 Omega B 2,5 V6 CD Aut. Previous Opels: -91 Omega A 2,0i, -85 Ascona 1,6S CC, -78 Ascona 1,9S, -81 Commodore 2,5S Berlina, -82 Ascona 1,6S CC, -78 Ascona 1,9S, -72 Ascona 1,6S http://www.opelgt.com/forums/vbgoogl...4650269&zoom=5 Last edited by tekenaar; 07-08-2008 at 11:48 AM. Reason: mentioned |
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. . . I've said it before, so I'll say it again, " . . . difference is in the details!"
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It was cast in 1974. But it IS a 10-bolt head. And, it had the 4th cam bearing journal machined, but not drilled for an oil passage. I merely drilled the oil passage and installed a cam bearing and, voilā!....4-bearing head. Odd stuff indeed.
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As far as i now there hasn`t been a Ascona S. maybe a 16 S or 19 S.
The model sold in the us was runned as Opel Ascona in Germany. Due to there was a follow up modell it hits history as the Ascona "A". Depending on the engine its been called 16 or 19. The estate modell was called Ascona Voyage. all other opel estates are called caravan. The Manta was sold here as 1.6 (not 16!) and 1.9 (not 19!). they runned with "Benzin" 91 Octane (?) think you call it regular gas. the "S" versions i.e. the 1.6 S and 1.9 S needed Super-Benzin (95 octane?) think you call it "unleaded". They used to drive with leaded fuel which was finally forbidden in germany in the early 90s. we use a lead additive now to run them. due to the emission regulations opel just sold the 1900 engine in the us as far as i know. because it was the only engine (after certain modification) that could fullfill your emission regulations. there has been a manta with a 1200 engine but wasn`t sold that much. the manta in germany had little rays on each front wing, due to his name named after the manta ray. it was sold as manta (basic version), manta luxus (some chrome and options), the manta berlinetta (comparable to your luxus model) with certain upholstery, wooden interior pieces and a lot options and vinyl roof. the "S", above all a red S, has just been on the manta models. never had seen one on an ascona. Last edited by tekenaar; 11-01-2008 at 01:32 PM. Reason: 16 S oder 19 S; comparabel |
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RON 95 or Euro 95 was made for car engines made in the late 80's Coming back to the "S" original, on the Ascona, the S is silver colored with the sides painted red, on the Manta the "S" is different, the face [front] is, not sure how to put it, recessed ["hollow"] and filled with red paint while the sides are silver. The SR badge is the same for the Ascona & Manta, and are made in the style of the Manta "S"
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Opel Ascona; driving one is like living on the edge. Only built from 1970 - 1975 Last edited by tekenaar; 07-21-2008 at 06:50 PM. Reason: comming, stile = steps ladder over a fence |
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Actually, the 16S engine was designed for Super 98 octane gas. The 80 HP version had a CR of 9,5:1, while the 16N had a CR of 8,2:1. And yes, the Ascona 16S had a red S, or more correctly, it had red edges.
Edit: Erick, you beat me by 4 minutes. You are absolutely correct in what you`re saying.
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Hallgeir Opels now: -69 GT 1900, -95 Omega B 2,5 V6 CD Aut. Previous Opels: -91 Omega A 2,0i, -85 Ascona 1,6S CC, -78 Ascona 1,9S, -81 Commodore 2,5S Berlina, -82 Ascona 1,6S CC, -78 Ascona 1,9S, -72 Ascona 1,6S http://www.opelgt.com/forums/vbgoogl...4650269&zoom=5 |
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![]() I had to edit my statement because I misunderstood Manta 2009, the Ascona "S" didn't exist, but I didn't have a spare "19" badge to send with the "ASCONA" and "S" badges
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Opel Ascona; driving one is like living on the edge. Only built from 1970 - 1975 Last edited by tekenaar; 07-09-2008 at 05:45 PM. Reason: miss understood |
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. . . OK, so to make mine correct then, does anyone have the "19" that goes with the "S" Erick sent me?
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Hi,Otto!
by the way: you are still a member of the 1.Asc.-A/B IG Deutschland, aren´t you?? Ok, the theme: 1. the "S" on your trunk lid is too big, can´t be right 2. somebody said it before, only the "S" was not avaible in Germany, had to be SR or even 16S or 19S you want a "19"?? is your address still right, i´ll send one..ok?? i would like to have the us-version
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Opel Ascona; what else???? Last edited by tekenaar; 11-01-2008 at 01:41 PM. Reason: to; say it before; must be |
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That is an original S from an Ascona, I had it on one that I took apart a few years back
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. . . und noch etwas anderes auch nötig, vielleicht in Deutschland noch "nue" erhältlich? . . . ich brauche das Ascona A Innenlicht . . . möglich?
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