Adhesive for SportWagon side pop-put windows

MikeyOne · 05-24-2005

Today I opened one of my popout windows and it fell off the front two hinges. Luckily the popout handle in the rear is actuallly bolted thru the glass so it didnt fall and break. Its not the first time either.

The front hinges seem to have been glued to the glass with a putty or two sided tape. I have tried several two sided tapes, including an industrial version, but none seem to be able to take the weather, eventually coming loose from heat/cold (I think)

Does anyone have any idea what to use to re-attach these?

Thanks

RallyBob · 05-24-2005

I used to glue them back in place with epoxy adhesive such as Marine-Tex, but eventually they would break again. So next I removed the window and masked off the entire window except for the area to be glued, and glass-beaded it for more adhesion and re-glued it...this worked longer but eventually they broke again!

My 'final' solution was to weld a thin stainless bracket to the back-side of the OEM 'hinge', which therefore encapsulates the glass from both sides. I then glue this in place using the aforementioned technique and so far (knock on wood), none of them have broken away. Keep in mind I tend to run horrendously stiff springs/shocks/bushings compared to stock, so I probably put 10 years worth of abuse into about a 1 year timeframe.

HTH,
Bob

azopelnut · 05-25-2005

Did you have any phots of the bracket? I assume you glass-beaded both sides and used adhesive on both sides. Larry Klein has good luck with JB weld. Are yours still holding Larry

guyopel · 05-25-2005

I work at a GM dealer & we use an epoxy to hold glass to window
regulators & pop-out windows . This is a two part epoxy & is in a
mixing packet ( 3M product ) & cost is app. 6 to 10 $ . Drying time is
5min. I remove pivots & glue then to glass & reinstall ( 1 to 2 hours )
hope this helps . guyopel

MikeyOne · 05-25-2005

I did some general searching and found the 3M product and it sounds like the right thing.

I didn't make a photo of the 'hinge' or 'bracket' but it does not attach to the edge of the glass and has only one side (the outside). These are essentially flat pieces of stainless that is glued to the surface of the glass - on the outside (not a very theft proof approach).

One end hangs off the glass and, when the window is mounted, this end is shoved into a tight rubber grommet in the window frame. The hinge is not articulated.

Any thoughts on the glue that is used to attach rear view mirrors to the windshield?

guyopel · 05-25-2005

I have used that as well but the channel adhesive is more durable .
& has more body to hold .
hope that helps ..

05-24-2005	#1 (permalink)
MikeyOne Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Los Angeles more or less Posts: 97 Classified Rating: 0% (0)	Adhesive for SportWagon side pop-put windows Today I opened one of my popout windows and it fell off the front two hinges. Luckily the popout handle in the rear is actuallly bolted thru the glass so it didnt fall and break. Its not the first time either. The front hinges seem to have been glued to the glass with a putty or two sided tape. I have tried several two sided tapes, including an industrial version, but none seem to be able to take the weather, eventually coming loose from heat/cold (I think) Does anyone have any idea what to use to re-attach these? Thanks

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azopelnut Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Yuma Arizona Posts: 636 Classified Rating: 0% (0)	ascona side glass Did you have any phots of the bracket? I assume you glass-beaded both sides and used adhesive on both sides. Larry Klein has good luck with JB weld. Are yours still holding Larry

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guyopel Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Duluth,Ga. Posts: 517 Classified Rating: 100% (1)	side windows I work at a GM dealer & we use an epoxy to hold glass to window regulators & pop-out windows . This is a two part epoxy & is in a mixing packet ( 3M product ) & cost is app. 6 to 10 $ . Drying time is 5min. I remove pivots & glue then to glass & reinstall ( 1 to 2 hours ) hope this helps . guyopel

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MikeyOne Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Los Angeles more or less Posts: 97 Classified Rating: 0% (0)	Thanks! I did some general searching and found the 3M product and it sounds like the right thing. I didn't make a photo of the 'hinge' or 'bracket' but it does not attach to the edge of the glass and has only one side (the outside). These are essentially flat pieces of stainless that is glued to the surface of the glass - on the outside (not a very theft proof approach). One end hangs off the glass and, when the window is mounted, this end is shoved into a tight rubber grommet in the window frame. The hinge is not articulated. Any thoughts on the glue that is used to attach rear view mirrors to the windshield?

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05-24-2005	#2 (permalink)
RallyBob Project 1450 supporter... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pleasant Valley, CT Posts: 6,552 Classified Rating: 0% (0)	I used to glue them back in place with epoxy adhesive such as Marine-Tex, but eventually they would break again. So next I removed the window and masked off the entire window except for the area to be glued, and glass-beaded it for more adhesion and re-glued it...this worked longer but eventually they broke again! My 'final' solution was to weld a thin stainless bracket to the back-side of the OEM 'hinge', which therefore encapsulates the glass from both sides. I then glue this in place using the aforementioned technique and so far (knock on wood), none of them have broken away. Keep in mind I tend to run horrendously stiff springs/shocks/bushings compared to stock, so I probably put 10 years worth of abuse into about a 1 year timeframe. HTH, Bob

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guyopel Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Duluth,Ga. Posts: 517 Classified Rating: 100% (1)	I have used that as well but the channel adhesive is more durable . & has more body to hold . hope that helps ..

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