Can anybody help me source parts for a Bitter SC?

Timo1938 · 02-16-2006

I have a 1985 Bitter SC that is in need of front brake rotors and pads. I'm aware of the two US based Bitter part suppliers and I don't question the quality of their parts. I'm just struggling with the prices. ($400 for rotors and pads)

I know that Bitter SCs used common parts with Opel/Vauxhall Senator A models and Monzas (http://www.autobahnstormers.org/publicsite/main.asp)

What I need is a GM based part number and/or a UK or German supplier. I think my best best will ultimately be ebay.uk or ebay.de, but without a part cross reference I'm hesitant to bid on anything...

Thank-you for any advice and/or words of wisdom.

Respectfully (the opel newbie)
Tim

Gary · 02-16-2006

Tim, I am in the same boat... I'm also looking for pads and rotors for my '84 Senator A.

GTJIM · 02-17-2006

Try this surplus parts site in the UK - the discs here are later Senator B ones but he has 300 sets of all sorts of discs to clear.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-CARLT...QQcmdZViewItem

There is also another seller salled 'Marigold' who has Vauxhall/Opel discs but you have to know the type and size required - it is your car!

PS: I have a couple of Monzas - 1983 & 1986 they have different front discs
and a pair of 1991 Opel Senators - their discs are different again.
i am still trying to sort out what is what - it looks to me that some of the Spec sheets accessed though that parts seller may not be correct.....

baz · 02-17-2006

can you give me the dimentions of the discs you need

diameter of disc

diameter of centre hole

height of disc from back face to hub front where the wheel sits against
and thickness of disc

i will then get you the part# and a price
i think it will be

271mm
88 or 94mm
59 or 60mm
and 20-22mm thickness (20mm is minimum thickness for friction surface )
and do you need pads with it ?

Gary · 02-17-2006

Baz - I won't be able to get those dimensions anytime soon. My Senny is not accessible right now as it is under cover on my trailer.

My understanding the Bitter's are from the same platform/drivetrain as the Senator A.

baz · 02-17-2006

gary for yours all we need is the centre hub hole size , i think it was 94mm
from what we talked about last year but i have formated my PC 2 weeks ago and dont have any of the stuff from before

Timo1938 · 02-17-2006

I might even a take a picture or two...

Guys, I SINCERELY appreciate the help on this, especially as a newbie getting such great responses so quickly.

Best Regards,

Tim

Frogmont, CO
Bitter SC

GoinManta · 02-22-2006

VinTeq, Ltd. - Homepage

also visit

Bitter, an extraordinary make of cars

As for Bitter Parts, the guys name is Joachim Vinson and he is in North Carolina.. He imports a lot of parts.

I used him when I had my 1985 Bitter SC.

As for brakes, early Bitters used a different rotor, caliper and pads than the later models. Both were Senators.. they changed when the Senator/Monza did. So usually your safe ordering from Europe for a MOnza of the same year.

Actually thats a good rule of thumb.. Use the Monza GT/E as a cross reference whenever possible. Most the Bitter parts used the performance parts off the Monza. Monza was a 2 door version of the Senator.

Also depending on your model, Most the FI components for the 3.0L are the same as the 75' Manta, and the 3.9L uses parts from a 1980 BMW 635csi.

Both models use the fuel pump, fuel pressure regulator valve and throttle sensor of the 75'. The injectors, Air Flow Meter and some wiring are the difference. I havent found (Or really looked) a swap for the early ECU, but the BMW ECU does work on the 3.9L.

The Rims (pattern and offeset) are the same as a 97' BMW 325i.

If you fail to get anything through Joachim, I can get the parts from the guy I get my Manta parts from.

Charles

ard674t · 03-26-2007

That's Monza "GSE", Charles. The GT/E was Manta only. :-)
Cheers,
Nick

Rionart · 03-26-2007

Originally Posted by ard674t

That's Monza "GSE", Charles. The GT/E was Manta only. :-)
Cheers,
Nick

You beat me to it Nick!!
Love the latest issue of Manta Magic BTW!

2 Fast 4 U · 03-27-2007

Originally Posted by ard674t

The GT/E was Manta only. :-)
Cheers,
Nick

And the C type Kadett not to forget!!

Classic Motor Cars · 04-02-2009

Bitter Parts in Stock
Largest Bitter SC Parts Inventory
Classic Motor Cars Inc.
1000 S. Oxnard Blvd.
Oxnard, CA 93030
USA
(805) 240-2666
email: classicmotorcars@msn.com

Also complete repairs & service available. Factory trained Technician.
Michael Gabriel was the Parts & Service Director for Bitter Automobile USA.

02-16-2006	#1 (permalink)
Timo1938 Opeler Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Frogmont, Colorado Posts: 10	Unanswered: Can anybody help me source parts for a Bitter SC? I have a 1985 Bitter SC that is in need of front brake rotors and pads. I'm aware of the two US based Bitter part suppliers and I don't question the quality of their parts. I'm just struggling with the prices. ($400 for rotors and pads) I know that Bitter SCs used common parts with Opel/Vauxhall Senator A models and Monzas (http://www.autobahnstormers.org/publicsite/main.asp) What I need is a GM based part number and/or a UK or German supplier. I think my best best will ultimately be ebay.uk or ebay.de, but without a part cross reference I'm hesitant to bid on anything... Thank-you for any advice and/or words of wisdom. Respectfully (the opel newbie) Tim

02-17-2006	#3 (permalink)
GTJIM Old Opeler Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,686 Provided Answers: 12	Hope This Helps .. Try this surplus parts site in the UK - the discs here are later Senator B ones but he has 300 sets of all sorts of discs to clear. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-CARLT...QQcmdZViewItem There is also another seller salled 'Marigold' who has Vauxhall/Opel discs but you have to know the type and size required - it is your car! PS: I have a couple of Monzas - 1983 & 1986 they have different front discs and a pair of 1991 Opel Senators - their discs are different again. i am still trying to sort out what is what - it looks to me that some of the Spec sheets accessed though that parts seller may not be correct..... __________________ GTJim Opel Owner since last Century! Copyright © 2000-2009 J D Henry All Rights Reserved

02-17-2006	#4 (permalink)
baz opel free after 26 years Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: sunderland england Posts: 4,941 Real Name: barry williams Provided Answers: 4	can you give me the dimentions of the discs you need diameter of disc diameter of centre hole height of disc from back face to hub front where the wheel sits against and thickness of disc i will then get you the part# and a price i think it will be 271mm 88 or 94mm 59 or 60mm and 20-22mm thickness (20mm is minimum thickness for friction surface ) and do you need pads with it ? __________________ Copyright © 2003-2009 barry williams All Rights Reserved save praying to God for sunday today we pray to Nike and run like hell Last edited by baz; 02-17-2006 at 07:42 AM.

02-17-2006	#6 (permalink)
baz opel free after 26 years Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: sunderland england Posts: 4,941 Real Name: barry williams Provided Answers: 4	gary for yours all we need is the centre hub hole size , i think it was 94mm from what we talked about last year but i have formated my PC 2 weeks ago and dont have any of the stuff from before __________________ Copyright © 2003-2009 barry williams All Rights Reserved save praying to God for sunday today we pray to Nike and run like hell

02-17-2006	#7 (permalink)
Timo1938 Opeler Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Frogmont, Colorado Posts: 10	I'll try to pull the front wheel on the Bitter this weekend and measure the inner hub I might even a take a picture or two... Guys, I SINCERELY appreciate the help on this, especially as a newbie getting such great responses so quickly. Best Regards, Tim Frogmont, CO Bitter SC

02-22-2006	#8 (permalink)
GoinManta Opelitis since 1984 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 2,213 Real Name: Charles Goin Provided Answers: 3	VinTeq, Ltd. - Homepage also visit Bitter, an extraordinary make of cars As for Bitter Parts, the guys name is Joachim Vinson and he is in North Carolina.. He imports a lot of parts. I used him when I had my 1985 Bitter SC. As for brakes, early Bitters used a different rotor, caliper and pads than the later models. Both were Senators.. they changed when the Senator/Monza did. So usually your safe ordering from Europe for a MOnza of the same year. Actually thats a good rule of thumb.. Use the Monza GT/E as a cross reference whenever possible. Most the Bitter parts used the performance parts off the Monza. Monza was a 2 door version of the Senator. Also depending on your model, Most the FI components for the 3.0L are the same as the 75' Manta, and the 3.9L uses parts from a 1980 BMW 635csi. Both models use the fuel pump, fuel pressure regulator valve and throttle sensor of the 75'. The injectors, Air Flow Meter and some wiring are the difference. I havent found (Or really looked) a swap for the early ECU, but the BMW ECU does work on the 3.9L. The Rims (pattern and offeset) are the same as a 97' BMW 325i. If you fail to get anything through Joachim, I can get the parts from the guy I get my Manta parts from. Charles __________________ CURRENT '06 Pontiac GTO '71 Opel Kadett 4 Door 36D (w/ Opel Parts & Service 2.0L) '74 Opel Manta (Bens Manta) '74 Opel Manta (w/ LK5 transplant) Past '73 Opel Manta (Blue Max) '75 Opel Manta (Yellow) '85 Bitter SC '73 Opel Commodore B GS '73 Opel GT (w/ Vinyl Roof) At least 16 or So Parts Opels Last edited by tekenaar; 03-03-2008 at 05:33 PM. Reason: Jochiam

03-26-2007	#9 (permalink)
ard674t More Opels than sense Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 22	That's Monza "GSE", Charles. The GT/E was Manta only. :-) Cheers, Nick

04-02-2009	#12 (permalink)
Classic Motor Cars Opeler Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Oxnard, CA Posts: 3 Real Name: Michael Gabriel	Bitter sc parts inventory in usa Bitter Parts in Stock Largest Bitter SC Parts Inventory Classic Motor Cars Inc. 1000 S. Oxnard Blvd. Oxnard, CA 93030 USA (805) 240-2666 email: classicmotorcars@msn.com Also complete repairs & service available. Factory trained Technician. Michael Gabriel was the Parts & Service Director for Bitter Automobile USA.

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