Getrags in Opel models

[nobody]

Ok, a word to the wise, and that I know you are. Use of a T type or 265 tranny means lowering everything for it to fit and hold up to the power. Won't that change the clearance issues dramaticly? On a stock GT its 16 inches and an Ascona type is closer to 20 but if you do a big tranny and make it fit then you have 14 in a GT and 17 in an ascona. The hinge pin is tranny and how much cutting you want to do for it to fit. Without knowing these details it's nearly impossible to make a one size fits all exhaust. Each case will be different depending on the car and the owners choices. Different intake choices add another level of fitment. I've been working on this for years and to put it on the open market is a quick trip to disaster in my opinion. There are too many variables to it unless you want to do the entire process on the car in house.

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[RallyBob]

Originally Posted by nobody Ok, a word to the wise, and that I know you are. Use of a T type or 265 tranny means lowering everything for it to fit and hold up to the power. Won't that change the clearance issues dramaticly? On a stock GT its 16 inches and an Ascona type is closer to 20 but if you do a big tranny and make it fit then you have 14 in a GT and 17 in an ascona.

I have a 265 Getrag in a Manta shell right now, and other than relocating the tunnel hole to move the shifter back, and making a new rear tranny mount, I didn't have to mod anything else. Same angle and height in the car. I could take pics once I get the photo software installed in a computer.

A GT is another bird though, tiny tranny tunnels on those things!

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by nobody Use of a T type or 265 tranny means lowering everything for it to fit and hold up to the power. Won't that change the clearance issues dramaticly?

No,
I've adapted the Getrag265 in different Opel cars,
Never had to change anything about height clearance or engine+gearbox angle,
I only needed to adapt another gearbox rear mount.
Hiro

[nobody]

In a GT a 265 will hit the tranny tunnel unless you drop it 2 inches. The shifter can be moved forward to be within an inch of stock.

[tekenaar]

Originally Posted by nobody In a GT a 265 will hit the tranny tunnel unless you drop it 2 inches. The shifter can be moved forward to be within an inch of stock.

. . . sure you're not thinking of a 240?

[nobody]

Otto and others, Are you aware that one member here is in the midst of a 10,000 dollar litigation over an altered car? Legal fees alone will be over the 10k mark.

A second sale after it was altered inspired it.

A proprietry agreement or waiver of liability should be enough to stop this in the future. There are people out there that are sue happy and you have to consider this if you accept money for anything.

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by nobody In a GT a 265 will hit the tranny tunnel unless you drop it 2 inches. The shifter can be moved forward to be within an inch of stock.

I don't remember if the GT was sold in the US with auto trans?
I do the G265 swap in auto trans body,
this way no work is required on the tranny tunnel.
Hiro

[nobody]

let me think, one 265 is on the crate motor and one is all boxed up and the 240s are still unmoved. The 265 is 72 pounds and the shifter relocation was done here and the 240s currently don't have any shifters and only weigh 48 pounds. I'm pretty sure that I could tell the difference blindfolded. FYI Jim found a drawing to move the 265 shifter and it confirmed what I already did. If you want any further proof Joe might give up a picture of his setup. And yes again a 265 will fit into a GT if you change the motor and tranny mounts. And again, doing so limits your turbo room even further, down from 16 inches to closer to 13 if you don't cut the fender. No I didn't start this thread, this info was already out there and I seldom go to the task of repeating myself. Whomever seperated this from turbo setups needs to rethink it. If you think a 240 or 4 speed will handle a turbo motor then I vaguely see your point. Talk about censorship with no controls and here you go.

[Motor Mouth]

Ok, so this thread has a very confusing start and so I'm assuming it's come from another thread but here's my take on it.

Having had 4 GT's with the Getrag 240 I can confirm that by modifying the linkage you can get a completely 'stock' look....I've even gone so far as to use the 4speed shifter in one to maintain originality. These have been fitted in both manual and auto transmisson tunnels, without any alteration

As for the power the 240 will take, well in the 90's a company used to do Manta Turbo conversions running 250-280bhp and the 240 stands up to this. you could also consider that a 240 (I'm pretty sure) is also used when doing a 16valve conversion and this is also used for the LET engine conversion and these will run at 300bhp.

There is no doubt a 265 is stronger (one of our guys has a 'A' series running a Jaguar V12, 6litre TWR, with Twin Turbos......It has a bespoke bell housing but it's mated to a Getrag 265).........and that's got a fair few horses under the hood!

[nobody]

I don't know **** about trannys or turbos or exhausts or fitting one so best to deltree this one. shoot, doesn't everybody work with a garret engineer and help design heads for Richard Childress. What people don't know becouse of proprietory agreements would fill volumes. Almost every head for Nascar was done in a barn in Penrose Colorado for almost 10 years, 8 months of programming and 2 months on the CMM. I don't know **** from shinola, that I'm allowed to talk about anyway. Even Ron's V6 has my handywork in it but I can't talk about it for legal reasons. I'm just another nobody. Ron if you ever blow the front timing chain and or pumps it won't go into the oil. Every aircraft in the world has carbon fiber brakes so ya I don't have a clue about a rejected take off on a 767 dyno and apply it to an Opel. Atlas pacific does the fruit peelers so if you eat peeled fruit I'm there too. Same goes for if you have water to your house or a fire in your area. The valves are out of US pipe and the bonnets are done so fast it would make your head spin. But I don't know anything about anything....next time you get on an airplane just hope the Femcos did it right. I'm still under agreements with Globe motors and Parker hannifin and Iomega plus a few others. it sucks, all the original drawings and codes are on this laptop. But I don't know a darn thing about anything. I never signed one at Synthes so if you brake a bone we can talk about getting screwed. Titanium aluminum niobium makes the best tent stakes BTW it beats carbon fibor but ya'll don't play with metalurgy too much. I'm still doing it, in alot of languages sentence structure is backwards, Honors english and now it's all backwards from years with the Japaneese reps. I need to fix that vs fix it I need to

[rowdygt]

Originally Posted by nobody I don't know **** about trannys or turbos or exhausts or fitting one so best to deltree this one. shoot, doesn't everybody work with a garret engineer and help design heads for Richard Childress. What people don't know becouse of proprietory agreements would fill volumes. Almost every head for Nascar was done in a barn in Penrose Colorado for almost 10 years, 8 months of programming and 2 months on the CMM. I don't know **** from shinola, that I'm allowed to talk about anyway. Even Ron's V6 has my handywork in it but I can't talk about it for legal reasons. I'm just another nobody. Ron if you ever blow the front timing chain and or pumps it won't go into the oil. Every aircraft in the world has carbon fiber brakes so ya I don't have a clue about a rejected take off on a 767 dyno and apply it to an Opel. Atlas pacific does the fruit peelers so if you eat peeled fruit I'm there too. Same goes for if you have water to your house or a fire in your area. The valves are out of US pipe and the bonnets are done so fast it would make your head spin. But I don't know anything about anything....next time you get on an airplane just hope the Femcos did it right. I'm still under agreements with Globe motors and Parker hannifin and Iomega plus a few others. it sucks, all the original drawings and codes are on this laptop. But I don't know a darn thing about anything. I never signed one at Synthes so if you brake a bone we can talk about getting screwed. Titanium aluminum niobium makes the best tent stakes BTW it beats carbon fibor but ya'll don't play with metalurgy too much. I'm still doing it, in alot of languages sentence structure is backwards, Honors english and now it's all backwards from years with the Japaneese reps. I need to fix that vs fix it I need to

And all this while designing the Space Shuttle and inventing the computer:

[slartybarfast]

Originally Posted by nobody I don't know **** about trannys or turbos or exhausts or fitting one so best to deltree this one. shoot, doesn't everybody work with a garret engineer and help design heads for Richard Childress. What people don't know becouse of proprietory agreements would fill volumes. Almost every head for Nascar was done in a barn in Penrose Colorado for almost 10 years, 8 months of programming and 2 months on the CMM. I don't know **** from shinola, that I'm allowed to talk about anyway. Even Ron's V6 has my handywork in it but I can't talk about it for legal reasons. I'm just another nobody. Ron if you ever blow the front timing chain and or pumps it won't go into the oil. Every aircraft in the world has carbon fiber brakes so ya I don't have a clue about a rejected take off on a 767 dyno and apply it to an Opel. Atlas pacific does the fruit peelers so if you eat peeled fruit I'm there too. Same goes for if you have water to your house or a fire in your area. The valves are out of US pipe and the bonnets are done so fast it would make your head spin. But I don't know anything about anything....next time you get on an airplane just hope the Femcos did it right. I'm still under agreements with Globe motors and Parker hannifin and Iomega plus a few others. it sucks, all the original drawings and codes are on this laptop. But I don't know a darn thing about anything. I never signed one at Synthes so if you brake a bone we can talk about getting screwed. Titanium aluminum niobium makes the best tent stakes BTW it beats carbon fibor but ya'll don't play with metalurgy too much. I'm still doing it, in alot of languages sentence structure is backwards, Honors english and now it's all backwards from years with the Japaneese reps. I need to fix that vs fix it I need to

Sent through the dialectizer to see if it helps clarify..

ah doesn't knows **** about trannys o' turbos o' exhaests o' fittin' one so bess to deltree this hyar one. shoot, don't ev'rybody wawk wif a garret ingineer an' he'p design haids fo' Richard Chileress. Whut in tarnation varmints doesn't knows becouse of proprieto'y agreements'd fill volooms. Almost ev'ry haid fo' Nascar was done in a barn in Penrose Colo'ado fo' almost 10 years, 8 months of programmin' an' 2 months on th' CMM. ah doesn't knows **** fum shinola, thet ah's allered t'talk about ennyway. Even Ron's V6 has mah han'ywawk in it but ah cain't talk about it fo' legal reasons. ah's jest t'other nobody. Ron eff'n yo' evah blow th' front timin' chain an' o' pumps it won't hoof it into th' oil, ah reckon. Ev'ry aircraf' in th' wo'ld has carbon fiber brakes so ya ah doesn't haf a clue about a rejecked take off on a 767 dyno an' apply it t'an Opel, ah reckon. Atlas pacific does th' fruit peelers so eff'n yo' ett peeled fruit ah's thar too. Same goes fo' eff'n yo' haf water t'yer house o' a fire in yer area. Th' valves is outta US pipe an' th' bonnets is done so fast it'd make yer haid spin, as enny fool kin plainly see. But ah doesn't knows ennythin' about ennythin'....next time yo' git on an airplane jest hope th' Femcos did it right. ah's still unner agreements wif Globe moto's an' Parker hannifin an' Iomega plus a few others. it sucks, all th' origeenal drawin's an' codes is on this hyar lappop. But ah doesn't knows a dadburn thin' about ennythin'. ah nevah signed one at Synthes so eff'n yo' brake a bone we kin talk about gittin' screwed, cuss it all t' tarnation. Titanium aluminum niobium makes th' bess tent stakes BTW it beats carbon fibo' but ya'll doesn't play wif metalurgy too much. ah's still doin' it, in alot of languages sentence struckure is backwards, Hono's inglish an' now it's all backwards fum years wif th' Japaneese reps. ah need t'fix thet vs fix it ah need to

[Gary]

This is going nowhere fast.

Thread closed.