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Old 09-24-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Unanswered: Haltech c20xe problems

Hello,
i have got a problem please help me nearly 3 monts my car is cutting
i installed haltech e8 engine management on my c20xe
i am using Motronic 60-2 trigger wheel and original cracnk sensor and i am using hall sensor it is original c20xe hall sensor (for home )
when the acclerating nearly 7200 rpm(sometimes 6500rpm) the car is cutting(looks like missfire) when the cutting starts the afr is nearly 13-12.9 the afr is good for N/A car(not turbo)
and the ignition advance is totally 22 degree

is there anybody here using haltec on c20xe?
Please help me
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my ignition setup is;
trigger angle BTDC:78
tooth ofset:6
i am using direct fire and sequantial

trigger setup is
motronic 60-2+cam home
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Sounds daft but are you sure you're not hitting the rev limiter?

Failing that unfortunately i don't know anything about the Haltech set up, have you tried contacting one of the UK Astra forums, there's plenty of 16v's about.
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Hello,
my rev limiter on haltech 9000 rpm i choose 9000
in UK c20xe owners usally use omex,emerald,megasquirt and dta
i find some haltech users on c20let but some of them has got the same problem
only one of my frined(he has got c20let with haltech) has not got any problem with original cranck sensor
the other people had the same problem
i want to install my race cams(sbd 304/295 degree) but i could not beacouse of cutting
some people said that,
on c20xe engine has got two type of cracnk sensor
one is metal and the other is plastic.
dta and mbe have to use metal crankc sensor(simens) i am using plastic sensor
i want to build a trigger wheel but i am not sure about installing
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Shouldn't you use batch injector firing without a cam sensor?
I'm not familiar with the Haltech.
ohh 60-2 and a "cam home" which is a cam sensor?
I dont know if Opel used the rising edge or falling of the cam sensor might be something to look into.

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on haltech,
if you want to use sequantial injection and direct fire ignition need a cam signal(ecu must see 720 degree)
last week i use semi-sequantial injection the car cuts nearly 7500 rpm(1 and 2 gears) on third gear car cuts at 6500
i want to try semi sequantial and waste-spark ignition beacause i dont need a cam signal
my friend on his haltech he uses without cam sensor motronic 60-2 only
but yesterday i tried waste-spark ignition with boch ls1 coils(inbuilt modules)
i use two signal
chanel 1=cyl1 and cyl4
chanel 2:cyl2 and cyl3
car sometimes run
after this result i changed my ignition wiring
chanel1:cyl1 and cyl3
chane2:cyl4 and cyl2
but there is no diffrence
i am not good at ecu tuning but i know my problem is cranck sensor readings.
so i want to change my trigger system
i want to use 60-2 or 36-1 but i m not sure about how can i install
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this is my trigger setup on halwin;

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Do you have a diagram of the fuel and ignition your running?
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Hello,
i will upload my ignition and fuel maps,
today one of haltech user(he has got c20let(c20xeturbo) send me a mail
hi is using trigger wheel and i am going to install trigger wheel this is my last opinion about haltech
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Shameless post to get to the 1 grand mark.
Even if its only three words long
BTW hows the redtop doing?

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