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Old 06-17-2005   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone try the new Redline Fuel Injection Throttle Body kits? I don't see one that is a bolt on for the down draft unless the DCNF bodies are the same bolt pattern as teh 32/36 in that case that should be the one we use.

The reason I mention it.. is they DO have a DCOE throttle body to hold the injectors in..

Also it looks as if the Redline kits are using the old L-Jet type injector bodies.. Which means technmically you could use the Redline kit with a 75' manifold. So you would have a easily tunable FI system...

Not sure just thinking out loud.

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Split this post to its own thread, in the proper Forum.

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Originally Posted by GoinManta
Also it looks as if the Redline kits are using the old L-Jet type injector bodies.. Which means technmically you could use the Redline kit with a 75' manifold. So you would have a easily tunable FI system...
Well, you could use the Redline DCOE throttle bodies with sidedraft manifolds, and buy the Redline ECU, fuel rail, regulator, injectors, pump, etc. But you couldn't use any of the stock Opel L-Jet system with it, modern o-ring style injectors aren't the same size as the old hose-barb style injectors. Add up all the parts costs and you're probably in it for $3-$3.5K.

You could also use the ECU with the stock L-Jet intake manifold, assuming the ECU can work with the stock low impedence injectors, but you'll need to graft a TPS onto the standard throttle body. This was the route many people had discussed but by using the Megasquirt instead of a higher priced ECU such as the Redline. I suspect it's at least $1k just for the ECU, there aren't many available below that price....Megasquirt and Simple Digital Systems stand out as the only two I can think of that are cheaper.

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Originally Posted by GoinManta
Anyone try the new Redline Fuel Injection Throttle Body kits? I don't see one that is a bolt on for the down draft unless the DCNF bodies are the same bolt pattern as the 32/36 in that case that should be the one we use.

The reason I mention it.. is they DO have a DCOE throttle body to hold the injectors in..

Also it looks as if the Redline kits are using the old L-Jet type injector bodies.. Which means technmically you could use the Redline kit with a 75' manifold. So you would have a easily tunable FI system...

Not sure just thinking out loud.

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First, DCNFs do not share mounting bolt footprint with our 32/36DGxV, 38DGxS and 40DFxV carbs (92mm x 45mm). . . they are slightly shorter and wider (85mm x 52mm). They use a single throttle shaft mounted with ball bearings just like a DCOE and unlike the geared twin shafts of the 38DG and 40DF mentioned before.

Personally, I've never been much of a fan of using throttle body FI, especially if just used as carb replacement on an otherwise carb intake manifold. You can control fuel mixture somewhat more precisely with it, but still retain all the negatives associated with channeling a wet mixture through the bends of the manifold . . . kind of defeats the prime benefits of FI, moving only air in the manifold and precisely adding fuel to it at the valve. OK, hopping off my FI soapbox!
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