Info please - GT 2.4/Getrag 240

[broszzy]

Can someone help a novice opeler as to the value of these items
2.4 efi , getrag 5speed

Also if someone has specs on the 2.4 stock hp, torque, and possible modifications








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[anastosmotors]

It's worth the money you paid for. Are you gonna fix it or
you are going to sell it for parts? Are you getting title for it?

Pete

[broszzy]

Lol, no not for sale. I have a 71 I am in the middle of restoring that will be home to the motor and tranny, and my son has his sights on the body. Like i said i'm a novice opeler with a newly discovered case of opelitus I guess.

[anastosmotors]

well come to the club. I have had opelitus for years and it's still growing

Pete

[RallyBob]

Originally Posted by broszzy Also if someone has specs on the 2.4 stock hp, torque, and possible modifications

128 PS (about 125 hp), and about 150 ft lbs of torque as measured at the flywheel.

Modifications? As deep as your wallet allows...

[GTJIM]

Try Opel GT Source for availability of Getrags and 2.4L motors - they also have 2.2L motors, from time to time. The 2.2L motor is arguably the sweetest CIH motor Opel made ... and a bit less expensive than the 2.4L

Have a look online: Opel GT Source --- Welcome

[broszzy]

I just bought this on ebay and I know I got my money's worth. I just want to know just how well I did. The body is from AZ and is very solid

eBay Motors: Opel : Opel (item 230182996689 end time Oct-25-07 14:04:27 PDT)

[RallyBob]

Originally Posted by broszzy I just bought this on ebay and I know I got my money's worth I just want to know just how good I did do. The body is from AZ and is very solid

Ya done good...

A rust free shell is arguably worth $2000-$3000.
A good 2.4 longblock is worth $2000-$3000.
A full Getrag conversion is worth another $1000-$1500.

Put her together, get the brakes upgraded (you'll need it!), and drive it!

Bob

[broszzy]

WOW thanks Bob, that'll make it easier to break to the wife

[jlthunder]

You did very well! I saw it on ebay and I was hoping someone here would get it. Congrats!

[broszzy]

Thank you, I just hope the motor is are right it's been sitting a while with no plugs in it and the intake is not bolted on. But it will still be worth rebuilding

[opelnut_1]

I was going to go for it but never shipping a car across country I wasnt sure how much shipping would be and could not afford the time away from work to get it. you Done, well. glade someone here got it


rick
colorado

[heimue]

Originally Posted by RallyBob 128 PS (about 125 hp), and about 150 ft lbs of torque as measured at the flywheel.

135hp when run w/o catalytic converter!

Originally Posted by RallyBob 128 PS (about 125 hp),

Bob, why is PS ≠ hp???

Dieter

[RallyBob]

Originally Posted by heimue 135hp when run w/o catalytic converter!

This is assuming you are using EVERY component in the original fitment, such as the 2.4 EFI intake, 2.4 EFI computer, 2.4 EFI exhaust manifold and exhaust system, etc. Once you place the smaller 2.2 inlet and EFI on the engine, the 1.9 'Sprint' manifold, and smaller exhaust system, these numbers plummet. Lucky to have over 115 hp. But still the torque is enormous compared to a standard 1.9.

Bob, why is PS ≠ hp???

Per Wikipedia:

Metric horsepower Metric horsepower began in Germany in the 19th century and became popular across Europe and Asia. The various units used to indicate this definition ("PS", "CV", "pk", and "ch") all translate to "horse power" in English, so it is common to see these values referred to as "horsepower" or "hp" in the press releases or media coverage of the German, French, Italian, and Japanese automobile companies. British manufacturers often intermix metric horsepower and mechanical horsepower depending on the origin of the engine in question. Metric horsepower, as a rule, is defined as 0.73549875 kW, or roughly 98.6% of mechanical horsepower. This was a minor issue in the days when measurement systems varied widely and engines produced less power, but has become a major sticking point today. Exotic cars from Europe like the McLaren F1 and Bugatti Veyron are often quoted using the wrong definition, and their power output is sometimes even converted twice because of confusion over whether the original "horsepower" number was metric or mechanical. PS This unit (German: Pferdestärke = horse strength) is no longer a lawful unit, but is still commonly used in Europe, South America and Japan, especially by the automotive and motorcycle industry. It was adopted throughout continental Europe with designations equivalent to the English "horsepower", but mathematically different from the British unit. It is defined by the Physikalisch-Technische Bundesanstalt (PTB)[1] in Braunschweig as exactly: 1 PS = 75 kp·m/s = 0.73549875 kW = 0.9863201652997627 hp (SAE) The PS was adopted by the Deutsches Institut für Normung (DIN) and then by the automotive industry throughout most of Europe, under varying names. In 1992, the PS was rendered obsolete by EEC directives, when it was replaced by the kilowatt as the official power measuring unit. It remained in use for commercial and advertising purposes, as customers were not familiar with the use of kilowatts for combustion engines.

Hope that explains it! I was always taught that 1 PS is about .98 SAE HP.

Bob

[broszzy]

Bob, did I see you right somewhere else the 2.4 efi intake will not fit under the gt hood?

[opelnut_1]

I believe that is true, broszzy, its 6 cm higher than the 2.2, unless its been modified

[2 Fast 4 U]

The old PS [Pferdestärke, German], pk [paardenkracht, Dutch] CV [Cheval-vapeur, French] is actually mathematical:

1 PS / pk / CV = the force needed to lift 75 kilogram, 1 meter, in 1 second

why they used 75 kg I don't know

1 meter in 1 second is 3.6 km/hour

[Polker]

I saw that one. Did the motor and the tranny come with it? I don't remember it being mentioned.

I too am new to it and addicted.

Polker

[broszzy]

Originally Posted by Polker I saw that one. Did the motor and the tranny come with it? I don't remember it being mentioned. Polker

yes motor, tranny, and AZ body. Is there a mod to make it fit under the gt hood?

[broszzy]

This car was left at a mini storage for six years till the owner of the place wanted it out. So he sold it on Ebay (to me) then went through the DMV to get it titled. So I just got that all done and got the car home last week. I pulled the motor out and to my pleasant surprise it looks like a brand new 2.4 it sat six years with no plugs in it and the intake was not bolted on. I want to pull the head for further inspection. I would like a little advice from you more experienced guy"s. Also is this oil pan just extra capacity or something else never seen one like this before?

Thanks Pat

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[GTJIM]

That is an increased capacity pan from an Opel Commercial Van - I think you will find that a standard steel or ali sump with fit with the appropriate oil pick-up tube. OGTS should be able to supply. Good idea to remove the pan anyway to check the condition of the bearings after sitting so long.

It is a for-sure 2.4L motor - see the "24" cast on the side of the block.

With a motor sitting for so long with plugs out and manifolds off it will be a real good idea to remove the head (at the very least!) and check on the internal condition. One caveat - the 2.4 head bolts are 'Torque-to-Yeild' ones and are NOT re-usable. That means they get tightened on the production line till they permanently 'stretch' and won't get any tighter - they just keep 'yeiding'. A method used on modern prodution lines so that over-tightening cannot happen with automated assembly.
I think the main bearing bolts are also of this 'throw-away' type too ....
Check with OGTS for gasket set and new head bolts before tearing into things!

[tekenaar]

My GT engine bay:



My sectioned 2.4 alu oil pan and notched engine cradle:



Alu pan section removed:



That should give you some ideas to start thinking . . .

[yellaopelgt]

VERRRRRY NIIIICE!!!!!!! Thats not the first time I've seen that car for sale...but I dont think the real treasures were disclosed the first time around. You got yourself one heck of a deal there! Why is it when I have no $$$ the outrageous deals are in my backyard.....(sigh) If you need some nick-nacks to finish that ol gal off you should try to meet up with us at one of the Greater Milwaukee opeler meets. Between all of us we should be able to hook you up with at least a few goodies to help out.

Too cool!!!


Joe

[broszzy]

Thanks Joe, in fact I all ready hooked up with Pete, Got my shirt and just waiting for a meeting this spring!

[oldopelguy]

I actually have the truck that oil pan would belong to, I think. If you decide to not use it let me give you some $ for it...