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Weird GT on Ebay

Not sure if this has been discussed, but I just saw an Ebay listing for an interesting 72 GT, except:
Someone put a new nose panel in, without welding it to the fenders !!!

eBay Motors: Opel : GT (item 230268332029 end time Jul-15-08 18:45:00 PDT)

Other than that, pretty nice car. Wonder how much it will sell for. It's at $5,100 now.

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I noticed that as well a couple days ago when I seen the auction, but forgot to post it on the site. Doesn't look BAD, just different lol. I wonder why they would have done that..
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GT nose job

It must not bother the bidders, it has 18 bids and is up to $5100Like I have said before, there is a butt to fit every seat all you gotta do is match them up
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Yeah, I saw that. I bet its been hit in the front; no grill, no lights, and there isn't any pictures of it with the lights down. I'll pass.
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Wow

I can't believe they would have left it like that. Seems even bondo would have been an easier solution (or better adhesive) than nothing. The front would have to be redone to fix, and the belly pan seems to have been done that way too. A nice car to have that problem
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I have seen at least two GTs that had the front cut like that and the center piece connected to open with the hood. Both were customs that needed access to stuff way out in the nose.

Doesn't look like that's the case with this one, but maybe?
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It looks to me like it has a fiberglass nose repair panel, and the "installer" chose to simply glue it over top of the existing sheet metal (or at least the edges that were left after cutting out the old metal panel) rather than bonding it and blending it into the adjacent panels. Very odd.
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I went over and checked this car personally. It does indeed have the nose section cut and screws holding it back in place. (the dealer said it was to allow easier access to the battery??) It is a nice GT, can be welded back to good as new...paint is about a 6 out of 10...interior very nice...no rust that i could find....probably a $4500 car...but very nice overall condition.
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i went and talked to the dealer he said they wanted 8,500 for it
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i went and talked to the dealer he said they wanted 8,500 for it
Hope you didn't laugh in his face.... like I would have
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Originally Posted by rowdygt View Post
It does indeed have the nose section cut and screws holding it back in place. (the dealer said it was to allow easier access to the battery??)
Must be an A/C car then! Seriously that's what the skinny guys working at the Zone, O'Reilly's, etc. are there for.

Did they really think you were that stupid?


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i went and talked to the dealer he said they wanted 8,500 for it
Yes it has screws to hold the panel on for ease of battery remove, and it was owned and driven by an elderly school teacher that lived 1/2 mile from the school she taught at and now that she is retired she no longer needs a car because some of her former students comes by and takes her where she wants to go. Some car salesmen need to do a year in jail before they ever are given a licence to sell cars
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Some car salesmen need to do a year in jail before they ever are given a licence to sell cars
That sounds like my Dad's logic when he used to tell me he should just go ahead and whip me the first thing in the morning to get it out of the way. I was such a good kid, I have NO idea why he would have said anything like that.

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Well...People do goofy things to nice cars...once worked with a guy who owned a '73 Trans Am S.D. Pulled and traded the 455 engine for a 350 for better gas mileage....DOH!!.....Without talking to the owner of this GT, I'll never know why he cut the nose...but the this car is, overall, very original and very nice condition
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i went and talked to the dealer he said they wanted 8,500 for it
8500 is that us dollars ? You think they would of at least straightened the hood hinge out to were the hood sits flat for that much money. Surely the school teacher will be getting the money? Dealership probably got it dirt cheap

Salesman don't need to be in jail, but they should be made to hold a real job so they can appreciate earning money, instead of seeking targets of the unknowing to make their profit. JMO
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8500 is that us dollars ? You think they would of at least straightened the hood hinge out to were the hood sits flat for that much money. Surely the school teacher will be getting the money? Dealership probably got it dirt cheap

Salesman don't need to be in jail, but they should be made to hold a real job so they can appreciate earning money, instead of seeking targets of the unknowing to make their profit. JMO
If they are jailed and introduced to "Bubba" it will leave a much better lasting impression and more than likey make them think before they rare back and come up with some story instead of just saying I don't know much about the car, as I don't know the previous owner or any history other than it seems to be a nice car and may need some work as it is 35 years old.
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I saw this as well! I was thinking of bidding but it scared me when I saw that nose and wondered what else was done. It did not sell due to not meeting the reserve.

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The car looks pretty good compared to a lot of GT's that are out there. Of course, in person flaws in paint. etc, are visible when you can not see them in pictures. About the price, in one way, it's pretty easy to actually put that much into a car before you are done restoring it (I'm assuming here that there really is no little old lady school teacher). Value is in the eye of the beholder. The front end and possible hidden damage are another matter. If it's not actually damaged and you could match the paint (red fades over time) the front end could be easily made right.

I had a GT in the 70's to early 90's that got broken into. Some A-hole pried the drivers side door open at the vertical post with a crow bar. A Buick dealership did the repair. While my car was pianted with red Imron polyurethane paint (which does not fade), the dealership, using insurance money, did what they will always do and used some other paint. It faded miserably and within a year looked like flat red compared to my shiny Imron.

Dealerships = dealers = salesmen = there must be a place in Hell for them (next to some insurance agents and that A-hole at the University of Illinois)...at least Perdition but I hear that's been closed down recently, so to speak. It's surprising that they actually do use the little old lady story. Shouldn't that be a red flag like "the dog ate my homework"? I've actually been told by a salesman that car's go up in value over time and not down. Maybe Dusenbergs.

The way I see it, the best salesmen shouldn't have to lie...assuming they've chosen to represent a good product that they don't feel they have to lie about and some of the others could be actual 'confidence artists' if the sales thing doesn't work out.

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Hold on

I hate to defend a second rate sales man but as a used car & salvage dealer please do not lump us all together in the bowels of hell.

I'm not afraid to say I don't know. and as for the little old lady story...I actually drove an 85 1/2 escort (fords 1/2 years) that was owned by a 80something year old lady. She got in an accident and the insurance company took so long to settle the claim that she had a stroke a couple of months later and died. Took a year to get the car through the courts before the Insurance company could sell it. Dad had me register it so we wouldn't have to sell a car with an attached death certificate. Car was 3 years old and had 4500 miles on it. everybody drove that car, everywher just to run up the mileage, I refused to spin the odometer ahead.

Oh yeah, you might want to talk to my daughter about the english essay the puppy chewed on.
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I hate to defend a second rate sales man but as a used car & salvage dealer please do not lump us all together in the bowels of hell.

I'm not afraid to say I don't know. and as for the little old lady story...I actually drove an 85 1/2 escort (fords 1/2 years) that was owned by a 80something year old lady. She got in an accident and the insurance company took so long to settle the claim that she had a stroke a couple of months later and died. Took a year to get the car through the courts before the Insurance company could sell it. Dad had me register it so we wouldn't have to sell a car with an attached death certificate. Car was 3 years old and had 4500 miles on it. everybody drove that car, everywher just to run up the mileage, I refused to spin the odometer ahead.

Oh yeah, you might want to talk to my daughter about the english essay the puppy chewed on.
If you read my post I did say SOME salesmen, there are good and bad in all types of employment. I know they gotta make a living but they bring a lot of problems on themselves, case in point when I walk onto a car lot and a salesman comes to help me the first thing I ask is "how long you been working at this dealership and how long you been selling cars" if they got a little age on them and the answer is less than a year, in most cases they are swinging for the fence with every sale, and while they may make some, when the buyer wakes up and finds out how big a hoseing they got they will not buy another car from that salesman nor will anyone thay the buyer can talk out of it (IMHO)
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