Bucket of keys

[sawdust]

Originally Posted by sawdust

Is there a chance that the bucket could make it to the Mid-West area.
Maybe to one of the 2009 Milwaukee meets or the Springfield RT66 2009
or even to the Opels on My Lawn get together in Colfax, Indiana.

Originally Posted by BQS4 The Can can go anywhere, just need to know where to send it.

Any chance that the bucket of Keys can be sent to OpelJohn in Springfield.

[basic instinct]

does the opel ignition key fit all locks on the gt?. ill have to try tommorow for the first time. gets out cam to mark the occasion. 8))

i got lucky and i stashed the key i got with mine in a safe place all these years. i lose things sadly and thy go to the land of lost things lol. "labyrinth"

i was even more lucky i even had a key to begin with.

[BQS4]

Originally Posted by sawdust Originally Posted by sawdust Is there a chance that the bucket could make it to the Mid-West area. Maybe to one of the 2009 Milwaukee meets or the Springfield RT66 2009 or even to the Opels on My Lawn get together in Colfax, Indiana. Any chance that the bucket of Keys can be sent to OpelJohn in Springfield.

I'll see if I can re-route it out that way. Can you or John PM me the address it needs to go to?

[basic instinct]

ah man, the key didnt fit the doors. just the starter.

[Redskinsjbs]

I would like to get in the queue for the bucket o' keys. Currently, the only key that I have is the one for the ignition. If there is any way that the bucket could make its way to Washington DC, I would be enternally grateful!

TIA,

Jay

[hrcollinsjr]

Originally Posted by Redskinsjbs I would be enternally grateful! TIA, Jay

Eternally or internally?

When you guys get through shipping the bucket of keys around, paying postage and sitting around going through them hoping to 'get lucky' pull a door handle and get the key code from it and contact Opelspyder so he can cut you a key. I've been through buckets of keys doing the same thing with gas caps. When you're only looking for one key I just don't see much economy in the bucket of keys. Now if it was at a show I was attending that would be a different story.

Harold

[Steinmetz Manta]

Hello,

i don´t understand the problem´s with the Keys?
It´s not difficult to have one Key for all Locks.
You only need a Key who in all Locks in,there are by Opel diffrent uncuted Keys.
I don´t now the right words.
When you have an Key who geht in all Locks but do not turn right or left,this is good.
Now you can put out the Lock,put it in all Part´s and do the little Plates in it right to your Key,do this with the other Locks,and after this,you have a one Key Car.

I have an orig Opelcollection of diffrent Plates for the Zylinders,and do many Car´s when one Cylinder is defekt,built back to an one Key Locksystem.
By restore of Mantas i by all of them,put out the Lockcylinders,cleaned it,grease it new,so it works perfect as a new one.

You must only work carfully with the small pices.

Greet´s Michael

[hrcollinsjr]

Originally Posted by Steinmetz Manta i don´t understand the problem´s with the Keys?

Opel owners on this side of the pond are 'frugal' they want things as cheaply as they can get them. They would rather sit around going through a bucket of keys looking for a freebie.

It´s not difficult to have one Key for all Locks.

You are correct!

I have an orig Opelcollection of diffrent Plates for the Zylinders,and do many Car´s when one Cylinder is defekt,built back to an one Key Locksystem. Greet´s Michael

We refer to this as 're-keying' the lock. I have done this on house locks but did not have the 'wafers' to attempt it with Opel locks.
Harold

[Redskinsjbs]

Originally Posted by hrcollinsjr Eternally or internally? Harold

Ah, Harold, you may have identified my punning ways!!!

I am willing to send my door handles out to Opelspyder for the $50 or so (most likely with the way this car is, each handle is a different key), but I see the bucket as an adventure of sorts! What sounds better when reminiscing about your car; I had new keys made for the door by shipping them to a buddy on the Opel forums - - - OR - - - there is this Bucket O Keys that floats around and I happened to be lucky enough to have my key right on the top of the bucket!

JMO,

Jay

[hrcollinsjr]

[quote=Redskinsjbs;200947]

I am willing to send my door handles out to Opelspyder

You only need to scrap the crud off of the flat tab on the back of the handle for the key code. That's all he needs!

... Bucket O Keys that floats around and I happened to be lucky enough to have my key right on the top of the bucket! JMO, Jay

I've done the same thing but I had several locks I was trying and I knew the 'bucket' was going to be where I was going to be. So it only cost me my time. And it is somewhat rewarding when you do 'get lucky'.

Harold

[Steinmetz Manta]

Hello Harold,

yes i will it cheaply to.

But re-locking is easy without some new plates to.
When you have a cylinder an Key go in,but not round,put it out of Doorhandle,so if you have only the Cylinder,now put your Key in,and see how Plates are wrong,
now you can change the Plates round till it goes to Lock.
If you have a Plate who will not pass,put it out of an other Cylinder how do you not need,or hone only this Plate down.

But it´s the best to have an Key for Ignitionswitch,and paß the Doorhandle on it.Doorhandle has 6 Plates,and i mean Ignition 10 or more.

THis is the cheapest thing,you only need a little bit of Time,and no Money,and not new Key.

Greets
Michael

[sawdust]

Originally Posted by Steinmetz Manta Hello Harold, yes i will it cheaply to. But re-locking is easy without some new plates to. When you have a cylinder an Key go in,but not round,put it out of Doorhandle,so if you have only the Cylinder,now put your Key in,and see how Plates are wrong, now you can change the Plates round till it goes to Lock. If you have a Plate who will not pass,put it out of an other Cylinder how do you not need,or hone only this Plate down. But it´s the best to have an Key for Ignitionswitch,and paß the Doorhandle on it.Doorhandle has 6 Plates,and i mean Ignition 10 or more. THis is the cheapest thing,you only need a little bit of Time,and no Money,and not new Key. Greets Michael

Is it possible for you to take some pictures of this procedure. I would like to try it.

[hrcollinsjr]

Originally Posted by Steinmetz Manta Hello Harold, But re-locking is easy without some new plates to. When you have a cylinder an Key go in,but not round,put it out of Doorhandle,so if you have only the Cylinder,now put your Key in,and see how Plates are wrong, now you can change the Plates round till it goes to Lock. If you have a Plate who will not pass,put it out of an other Cylinder how do you not need,or hone only this Plate down. But it´s the best to have an Key for Ignitionswitch,and paß the Doorhandle on it.Doorhandle has 6 Plates,and i mean Ignition 10 or more. THis is the cheapest thing,you only need a little bit of Time,and no Money,and not new Key. Greets Michael

Michael is basically saying if the key goes it, then you have the correct key style for the lock. The next step is to remove the cylinder. The plates or wafers that extend out from the cylinder with the key inserted will have to be swapped, removed or modified for this process to work. If you remove or file off the part extending past the cylinder barrel then you make it less precise. In other words there is a greater chance others keys may also fit it. An extreme example would be to remove all of the plates or wafers and then a simple key blank, screwdriver or knife blade could be used to turn the lock.
Not trying to put words into Michaels mouth and he is certainly free to correct me if I stated something incorrectly. Just trying to help.

Harold

[BQS4]

With my recent run-in with a neighbor not liking all the cars in my driveway, I got too carried away with getting the cars out, couple that with my old age, I seem to have forgotten who I last loaned the "Can-of-Keys" to If you are that person, please PM me as I have an address the Can-of-Keys are suppose to go to next.
Thank you.

[Steinmetz Manta]

Hello @ all

Harold,thanks on you,

it´s right,
and when you opel the Lock,and check it,than you can see on the Plate a Nr,all are so and you can see the diffrent,most time when i relocked one,i put all out,and set them new in like the Key i had.By this in most i only need one or two new Plates from my Set.
SO i hone the one or two it still passed,ore new,or out of an other Cylinder.
I will look this Week to go in my Garage and search a Cylinder and make some Pic´s,so it´s easier to understand.
Opel build diffrent Looks,and diffrent Profile of Keys,but the Plates was all the same,only the Hole in them was diffrent in high in the Plate.

Greet´s Michael

[opelnut10]

[quote=hrcollinsjr;200951]

Originally Posted by Redskinsjbs You only need to scrap the crud off of the flat tab on the back of the handle for the key code. That's all he needs! I've done the same thing but I had several locks I was trying and I knew the 'bucket' was going to be where I was going to be. So it only cost me my time. And it is somewhat rewarding when you do 'get lucky'. Harold

The last time I got lucky, and it's been a while, it cost me dinner and a movie but I didn't have to look in a bucket to find what I was searching for