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Old 09-04-2005   #51 (permalink)
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So when does he say things will be fully operational again?
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Soon! Just wish the news media could have stated the details! That way the rest of the country didn't have to panic about a fuel shortage, looks like it was the sudden increase in demand that the gas company's took advantage of.
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gas

man i hope the barge guy is right!
my daughter in lake charles la siad the rifineries(how many?)in that area were sutdown due to lack of crude to refine.

from what i can tell from local news and fed media is that they have 1 pipeline up and running at 85%dont know if its for off loading crude or transporting fuel.
on refinery in N.O. area is reparible and the rest will have to be rebuilt.

the fed gov and fed and local medias very rarely tell the truth.so who knows?

where i live 4+ hours north and west of new orleans most stations were out of gas friday evening-shortage or high demand?

lets hope for the best!

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Well,
Gas prices now in Atlanta are almost back to were they were prior to NOLA getting flooded (Currently $2.48/gal at Wal-mart). Granted the Governer of the State took the State tax off for the month ($0.15/Gal) so that means the gas price is still going $0.15/gal higher than what they were.

I see that France had a little discussion with its oil companies on how they raised the gas prices fast and brought it down slow. http://news.monstersandcritics.com/b...ices_in_France
Every once and a while France does do something right
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Its been 2 years since this thread has been updated. Lets see how things have changed .

Gas is up to 3.51 for Unleaded Regular here in Saginaw Michigan. It's thursday though, so it is bound to go up sometime today. I'm guessing 4.00 by Memorial Day..
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gas and diesel are both $ 7.28 / US gall here at the moment
look to the US gaining parity soon as the "green effect " comes into play with your tax dollar
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Its been 2 years since this thread has been updated. Lets see how things have changed .

Gas is up to 3.51 for Unleaded Regular here in Saginaw Michigan. It's thursday though, so it is bound to go up sometime today. I'm guessing 4.00 by Memorial Day..
It's strange how the gas prices are these days. I am from the Ohio valley and in the past they had some of the lowest prices in the country. Now they are near the highest. I live in Miami now but around me it is only around $3.05 at the moment.

Another strange thing I noticed is that since I started driving a car that requires premium that premium prices can vary as much as 30 cents a gallon between gas stations while regular will vary by around 10 cents.

Still have the 1.1L drive train sitting in the garage back home though for when it does reach $4!
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Well,

In Atlanta the price range on regular from $2.83 to $3.25.

When it gets to $3.00 (were I buy it is now $2.88), I am parking my car and taking the bus to work . That will cause me trouble if I have trouble with the family because my wife is out of town on an extended audit in Jackson MS. . She is only coming home every other weekend!!
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Originally Posted by benncojr View Post
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In Atlanta the price range on regular from $2.83 to $3.25.

When it gets to $3.00 (were I buy it is now $2.88), I am parking my car and taking the bus to work.
You will probably buy your bus ticket on Monday morning then

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Noooooooo

I hope not!! You folks have fun in Carlisle!
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I want all you folks out there to be thankful for us here in CA. Except for Hawaii, we pay more for a gallon of gas than any of you. With over 30,000,000 registered cars here, paying the prices we do, allows the rest of you to get away with cheaper prices. The profits per gallon of gas here, lets you pay cheaper prices without digging in to the profit margin. Aren't we just too lucky!!
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Gas prices

The oil companies at least have gotten smarter and we have gotten dumber, in 1973 they said "Oh, we have a serious shortage of gasoline and we are going to have to raise prices in order to repalce our reserve". Long lines at the stations, odd-even days to get gas and so on. The response was less driving, car pooling, auto companies tooling up and making small econo boxes(what a success that was,remember the Vega, Horizon and such). Now that we have settled back into bigger is better and more horsepower is what we want the oil companies are telling us "Oh, we're not out of gas but it is costing us more to buy crude oil and more to refine it and more to transport it and more to pump it into your tank, but "we are not out of gas". When are we going to wise up and spend the money to develop another fuel and stop getting it in the neck.
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Hah!

Fuel 'expensive' at $3.00 a US gal - Ha! Ha! .... It is $US4.50 here and rising.

There are only a couple of 'cheaper' items than gas that go into an Opel:

1) Air
2) Water
3) The owner!

Try buing a gallon of Coke-a-Cola .... or Milk .... sometime and compare the prices ......

Wait till the "cut-and-run" Democrats give in to the 'owners' of the oil in the Middle East and see how high gas prices go!
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I have no doubt that the oil companies are gonna keep pushing the price up to see at what point people will stop buying it. Let's take a poll and see what we think that price will be?
Ha. We are addicted to gas, we're not about to quit buying it.
When I was in Scotland, gas was $6 a gallon. Very few people could afford cars, those that could wanted economical ones and drove them only when they had to. Otherwise they took the bus and the train.
Some people could have luxury cars, and lots of them, and bought all the gas they wanted. It's kind of a perk for being successful, whether that was inherited or earned...
That's what's gonna happen here. Driving cars will be a luxury for those who can afford them and the gas to make them go. Should alleviate traffic congestion quite drastically.
I wonder what would happen if we all voluntarily contributed a dollar per gallon to researching an alternative fuel? You know the oil companies won't want that, but the government would if we tell them to. Otherwise we're gonna keep paying more and more for gas and the research will crawl on.
Remember that the gas we burn in our cars is a tiny slice of the pie as far as oil consumption. Very tiny, like seven percent. Most oil is used in the production of plastic. A big slice is in shipping, as in ships and trains and jets and trucks. Agriculture is a major one, so is the heavy equipment that builds and maintains our highways and digs our coal and aluminum and gold, etc.
I'd like to know how many gallons of fuel a day it costs us to screw around in Iraq and other military operations globally. You would be horrified if you knew, trust me.
It's my understanding that the largest privately owned fleet in the world is Coca Cola. I wonder how many gallons of fuel they go through every day. Have a Coke and a smile.
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Alternative Fuels would be good. Like Ethanol like Brazil, but the news this morning stated that due to the E85 gasoline the grocery stores product have gone up 4% since last year, do to........ CORN demand!!!

BTW. Paid my Propane bill this month $3.30 a gallon X 182 gallons, fees, etc.
A whopping $588.87

Oh, gasoline is $3.42 for the cheap stuff today.
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Price of Gasoline

Where I live,and more than likely most of us are in the same boat, public transportaion is a joke. There is no way people can use "public transportation" to get anywhere because this country has become more and more dependant on private vehicles to the point public transportation is a losing business and no one wants to invest in a loser. Luckily I am retired and do not have to drive to and from work everyday but if I want to go anywhere I must either drive or ride with someone else to get there. Sooner or later we are going to have to address this problem and come up with a better plan. Big oil is big money and getting bigger and the powers that be benifit from "donations" offered by the Oil Industry Lobby. The tree huggers are worried about killing a few fish and birds if we do off shore exploration and drilling to become less dependant on the middle east, south america, mexico or some other people that look upon us as the Greedy Americans and want to stick it to us or blow us up or both. Just think if Moses had of turned right instead of left we would be buying oil from the Jews instead of the Muslims
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Originally Posted by jeff denton View Post
I have no doubt that the oil companies are gonna keep pushing the price up to see at what point people will stop buying it.
I wonder what would happen if we all voluntarily contributed a dollar per gallon to researching an alternative fuel? You know the oil companies won't want that, but the government would if we tell them to. Otherwise we're gonna keep paying more and more for gas and the research will crawl on.
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I have no doubt that the oil companies have already begun research into alternative fuels! Imagine if you were an oil conglomerate and knew that you had limited resources but still had to satisfy your stockholders. I bet that the day after the world runs out of oil (at $1000 PER BARREL) the oil companies announce a revolutionary replacement at a mere $500/barrel, or some other energy resource that they will of course have the rights to. Crude oil use has only been an industry for less than 150 years, and has been known to be a limited resource for almost as long. It's hard to imagine what the exact replacement for the internal combustion engine is, much like imagining the replacement for the horse was prior to the horseless carraige, but 'change is gonna come'. I only hope it will allow us to adapt our Opels, but I fear that they will go the same way as the surrey and stagecoach went... almost forgotten. Fortunately, it will probably be after my time has passed as well, and there will still be enough gallons of gasoline to take my GT on the occasional road trip past the neighborhood hydrogen/solar/fusion(insert energy source here) plant to show my grandkids how it is to ride in an antique, gravity bound, 4 wheeled vehicle.
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I've honestly, never really understood just where all this oil came from. The planet must be just a big oil tank or something. As we pump all this oil out, what goes in?
How much oil is in that tank, is it somehow being replenished constantly?
And why can't we just drill over to the Mideast and pump their oil out?
I wonder if I could buy a house near a refinery and dig a tunnel from my basement over to their gas tank and tap in for five gallons a day...
Yes our lack of public transportation is disgusting. What mass transit we do have is even worse. What a joke is right.
Here in Montana, hitch-hiking was an excellent way to get around. Can't even do that safely anymore, with all the mother rapers and father stabbers, and mother stabbers and father rapers that have moved in...
Yeah, Brett, someday we will go to the museums and laugh at the car displays, surely a GT will be in one. We'll think it must have been absolute hell to have to spend a whole day on the road to visit Grandma three hundred miles away...
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Gas here shot up by 10c overnight, so now a gallon of regular unleaded here in LA costs 2.98$, and it's only gonna get worse.
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I have also wondered what happens when we pump oil out of the ground.Are we creating huge holes in the earth filled with nothing or does water somehow replace the oil we have removed?I wonder if we will have monster sink holes in the earth after we pump out enough oil?
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George, guess where all the oil reserves here are located? In the same wells we already emptied. Also, in order to get all the oil out of the wells, they pump in very hot water, the oil rises to the top of the water and is pumped out, simple.
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Why are gas prices so high?

Here are two reasons: