68/69 Kadett motor value?

[Sparky73]

A buddy from work has a motor from either a 68 or a 69 kadett in his garage that he has had for some time now. I believe this is the same kinda motors that went in the GT's -- correct? So it would be a direct bolt up? And what is an estimate value on it. As he states it "runs like a top" and has dual carbs. That is basically all I know right now. It is a complete motor with tranny. Not sure if the tranny is an auto or stick, and the motor I THINK is a 1.9l. He just wants to know an estimate value, and if it would fit in a GT, I might buy it off of him.

Thanks in Advance
Jon

[tomking]

With dual carbs it is likely the 1.1.

[opelnut10]

Originally Posted by Sparky73 A buddy from work has a motor from either a 68 or a 69 kadett in his garage that he has had for some time now. I believe this is the same kinda motors that went in the GT's -- correct? So it would be a direct bolt up? And what is an estimate value on it. As he states it "runs like a top" and has dual carbs. That is basically all I know right now. It is a complete motor with tranny. Not sure if the tranny is an auto or stick, and the motor I THINK is a 1.9l. He just wants to know an estimate value, and if it would fit in a GT, I might buy it off of him. Thanks in Advance Jon

Never believe any motor that has been laying around in a shop for a number of years "runs like a top". As stated in the previous post it is more than likely a 1100 (1.1 SR) 67hp and it is a bolt in exchange in an 1100 car only. Someone that has an 1100 car would be intrested in it unless the guy wants crazy money for it because it can be assumed that it is a "parts" motor until it can be checked out to evaluate the condition, which requires some disassembly.

[BQS4]

Originally Posted by Sparky73 A buddy from work has a motor from either a 68 or a 69 kadett in his garage that he has had for some time now. I believe this is the same kinda motors that went in the GT's -- correct? So it would be a direct bolt up? And what is an estimate value on it. As he states it "runs like a top" and has dual carbs. That is basically all I know right now. It is a complete motor with tranny. Not sure if the tranny is an auto or stick, and the motor I THINK is a 1.9l. He just wants to know an estimate value, and if it would fit in a GT, I might buy it off of him. Thanks in Advance Jon

Jon;
Can you provide pics of the motor? Also on the driver's side of the motor about 1/2 way up the side of the block is the number of the block. Provide a pic of it too, as the year you're describing could be anything from a 1.1, to a rare 1.5, or a 1.9

[OpelJim]

Originally Posted by tomking With dual carbs it is likely the 1.1.

I concur

[2 Fast 4 U]

What someone wants to spend, here in Holland something like a 1.1 would go for a few hundred euro's

[GTJIM]

If it is a twin carb 1.1 litre motor the twin carbs will be single barrel sitting on the head beside the rocker cover - it is also a tiny motor.

If a 1.9 litre the twin carbs will either be side draft 2bbl ones hanging out the passenger side OR down draft 2bbl ones on a curved manifold on the passenger side.

Either of the second options is a bit more exciting as that would tend to suggest the motor has been modified for hi-performance - but to find out how much would involve some disassembly. The double side draft option would be aftermarket - possibly twin DCOE Webers. The twin down draft set up is an Opel factory set-up used on Record "Sprints" and should have the "Sprint" exhaust manifold too. If there is a factory air cleaner on it the Otto would be most interested in it!

The 1.9 litre motor from a Kadett will bolt straight into a GT as long as the GT engine mounting brackets, which bolt to the motor, are used. I understand that the Kadett gearbox has the gearshift levers on the opposite side to the GT though internal parts are the same.

As to price - a sitting motor without FULL specs of what is in it and a cast iron guarantee of full refund/repair should anything be wrong is worth $100 - $300 tops.

Get us a picture or two if you can ..... for any further advice.

[oldopelguy]

Originally Posted by GTJIM I understand that the Kadett gearbox has the gearshift levers on the opposite side to the GT though internal parts are the same.

That's only on the automatics, Jim, the manual trannies are a bit more complicated. As long as you use the GT shifter the Kadett manual will swap right in if you have a 1.9L. On the 1.1 you need to have the "sport" 4-speed, which has the shifter extension housing, it should drop right in. The standard Kadett 1.1 MT would have the shifter coming out behind the dash on a GT. You would also need the driveshaft and engine cradle, I think, fo the 1.1 if you were swapping it into a GT origionally equipped with a 1.9L. I couldn't even begin to tell you where you would get that driveshaft as cutting down a Kadett one would be very difficult with them not having any front u-joints or yokes.

[GTJIM]

I have both a GT 1.9L auto g/box and a GT 1.1L "Sports Shift" g/box but have never seen an 'ordinary' GT or Kadett 1.9L four-speed manual g/box!

BTW: As far as swapping a Kadett 1.9L motor into a 1.9L GT - Does the Kadett intake and exhaust manifold fit or does the GT (intake, in particular) need to be used due to the fact that the GT motor is tilted 14 degrees to the passenger side ?

Yep! Just looked in the parts books - year for year Kadett and GT intake/exhaust manifolds are the same part number, as are some 50-serries 1900's

Duh! I guess that is why "Sprint" exhaust manifolds fit straight on to GTs !!!

[oldopelguy]

Kadett and GT intake and exhaust manifolds are the same, or all the ones I have had were the same. Some of the Manta's did have a different exhaust and a taller intake, but the Kadett and GT stuff should interchange fine. Pretty much all that was changed to tilt the motor was the motor mounts, near as I can tell, and they didn't do any of that with the 1.1s.

[Sparky73]

Well I work tonight, so if he is working I will see what he found out. For right now, alls I asked him was to get was the motor size (1.1,1.9) any mods that have been done, and whether the tranny is an auto or manual. I will let you know when I can. He said it had quite a bit of "get up and go" so that is why I am kind of doubting it was a 1.1L. A 1.9 with dual carbs should have some "get up and go" lol.