What is this engine????

mopar65pa · 01-23-2008

Hello I have an Opel engine I just acquired. I have no idea what it came from it's on a log splitter and has been for a long time.

The head is stamped with a 33 above 2-888-112
The block is stamped with a 33 above H-6M66

It has the intake and carb on the top of the engine. It's a single barrel carb with the exhaust out the right side (the same side the starter is on) Yes the tranny is hooked to it also and I have no idea what that is either. It's stick.

I know nothing about these motors so any help would VERY much be appreciated.

Thanks Tony

opel kid · 01-23-2008

Originally Posted by mopar65pa

Hello I have an Opel engine I just acquired. I have no idea what it came from it's on a log splitter and has been for a long time.

The head is stamped with a 33 above 2-888-112
The block is stamped with a 33 above H-6M66

It has the intake and carb on the top of the engine. It's a single barl carb with the exaust out the right side (the same side the starter is on) Yes the tranny is hooked to it also and I have no idea what that is either. It's stick.

I know nothing about these motors so any help would VERY much be appreciated.

Thanks Tony

maybe some pictures would help us identify it?

oldopelguy · 01-23-2008

Most likely it's a 1.0 or 1.1L from '64 or so through '72 here in the US. Would be right around 50hp.

jeff denton · 01-24-2008

I wanna see this! Must be one heck of a log splitter to need 50 horsepower!

heimue · 01-24-2008

Check on the left side of the block, it should have a stamped number on a milled-over spot, possibly in between stars (like *10-xxxxxx*), and the beginning of the number should be 10 (for a 1 liter) or 11 (for a 1.1 liter) engine.

Dieter

73Manta72gt · 01-24-2008

seems like there were sawmill plans in Mother Earth News back in the
1960s/70s that used the 1.1L engine...maybe this is it? Can we see a picture?

jlthunder · 01-24-2008

Where in PA are you? We have members all over the state. Maybe one of us could stop by and take a look.

yellaopelgt · 01-24-2008

I actually was told a long time ago that Opel built engines that were used for irrigation pumps and farming needs long ago and that they were bullet-proof back in the day..... could be a wives tale but thought I'd toss that out there as well.
Joe

tekenaar · 01-24-2008

Originally Posted by yellaopelgt

Originally Posted by mopar65pa

Hello I have an Opel engine I just acquired. I have no idea what it came from it's on a log splitter and has been for a long time.

The head is stamped with a 33 above 2-888-112
The block is stamped with a 33 above H-6M66

It has the intake and carb on the top of the engine. It's a single barrel carb with the exhaust out the right side (the same side the starter is on) Yes the tranny is hooked to it also and I have no idea what that is either. It's stick.

I know nothing about these motors so any help would VERY much be appreciated.

Thanks Tony

I actually was told a long time ago that Opel built engines that were used for irrigation pumps and farming needs long ago and that they were bullet-proof back in the day..... could be a wives tale but thought I'd toss that out there as well.
Joe

As Joe said, quite a number of Opel "stationary" engines were manufactured for those applications because of their simplicity and reliability. I know this is true for 1.9 engines, but appears to be true for the 1.0/1.1 engines as well.

The "stationary" engines are easily distinguishable by the engine type and SN stamped on the block (same place) . . . UPSIDE DOWN!

and from right to left, at least for the 1.9 CIH . . .

oldopelguy · 01-24-2008

I think that given the engine has a transmission attached it is more likely a home brew set-up than an original stationary motor set-up, but either way it should be an excellent motor for that purpose. I've long planned on swapping out the motor in one of my old IH tractors with a 1.1 Opel motor and trans when it dies, it just doesn't seem to want to die though.

While the 1.1 isn't a remarkable motor for hp/cc or even hp/lb, it is a pretty dependable little motor and repair work on it is so basic that anyone can keep one running. The 1 bbl Solex on that motor is very dependable, and any VW mechanic can tune it easily. Like I typed, it should be an excellent motor for that application.

IT Manta · 01-24-2008

A four speed log splitter

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jlthunder · 01-24-2008

Originally Posted by IT Manta

A four speed log splitter.

Sure, you need different gears for pine, maple, oak and walnut

mopar65pa · 01-24-2008

I'm new here so I don't know all the ins and outs.

I have pics how do I upload them? I will give you a link to the Dodge site I'm a member of it has pics on the thread.

Yeah man a 4 speed log splitter....... LOL...........

RCC

baz · 01-24-2008

photo posting
http://www.opelgt.com/forums/general...ers-101-a.html

mopar65pa · 01-24-2008

here's a pic try.........

mopar65pa · 01-24-2008

and some more..............

Thanks for the posting help...........

mopar65pa · 01-24-2008

Engine numbers.......... then the tranny numbers..........

GTJIM · 01-24-2008

That is for sure an Opel Kadett OHV (over-head-valve!) motor and g/box.
On the other side of the block opposite the exhaust manifold there should be a machined surface with stamped engine numbers on it (looks like the pad Otto posted a picture of). Then we would know what capacity it was and approximately the year it was made.
I have a feeling that 6M66 is the block casting date - maybe 1966

Good pictures!

mopar65pa · 01-24-2008

Found it. you guys are great.........

Ok # reads *MS-0149695 *

Here's the pics of it.........

GTJIM · 01-24-2008

That is '11S' and is the optional - hi-performance 1.1 litre "Sports" motor from a 1965 Kadett - 60hp @ 5,600 rpm. The motor numbers started from 11-0000001 and went to 11-0407848 in 1964 and from 11-047849 on up in 1965.
'64 was their first year of production - they soldiered on right in to the 1980's, as slightly larger 1.2L motors with many of the same parts, in Opel Corsas and up until 1992 in Vauxhall Novas!

There are still parts about for them and several people on the forum are rebuliding 1.1L motors - including me!

jeff denton · 01-24-2008

That is a serious log splitter. Lots of pump and huge cylinder! Plenty of power, the engine won't even slightly strain, and the ram should cycle back and forth pretty quickly.
Looks like she's gonna need a little work to get her going.
I fear it has less than zero tongue weight, surely it isn't pulled very far or fast like that?

opelnut10 · 01-24-2008

Originally Posted by jeff denton

That is a serious log splitter. Lots of pump and huge cylinder! Plenty of power, the engine won't even slightly strain, and the ram should cycle back and forth pretty quickly.
Looks like she's gonna need a little work to get her going.
I fear it has less than zero tongue weight, surely it isn't pulled very far or fast like that?

I hear you Jeff, but I bet you have to downshift it to split gum

. One of the former partners in Opel Parts & Service has been working for serveral years on a 1.1 powered garden tractor, I think the hangup is the PTO and a mower deck along with the front end loader, I think he's like me by the time he gets it completed, he will either be too old to use it or no longer need it

mopar65pa · 01-24-2008

Awesome guys.

For now my Dad is going to give me an 18 HP twin brigs for on the log splitter. with a little fab work and the ol' mig I'll have that mounted buy the end of the weekend.......
I'm not sure what to do with the Opel motor yet. I don't know maybe I'll rebuild it and put it back on then. For now I just need to get the splitter running.

You are right, NO tounge weight at ALL! I pulled it 4 miles to the house and it bounced the back of the truck the whole way!

Thanks for all your help guys............. Now if I want to rebuild it I know what I have.........
Tony

If anyone is in need of the motor I'm open to offers............

heimue · 01-24-2008

I just can't help, but I have to re-post the comment from one of the Dodge guys:

"It is a 1.9 cc what do you need to know about it. The 1.9 was the best of the two motors that Opal used. The 1.1 was a little under powered it was used it te Cadet's. The 1.9 was used in the Manta's and the GT models which were the sport model's. Opal was later bought out and imported by Isusu and then was produced in Japan."

Yep, you are close...

Dieter

jeff denton · 01-24-2008

It wouldn't hurt to have a hydraulics expert look over your setup and determine by the ram size and pump model if 18 hp is enough, I'm gonna guess that it is.
Be sure to get that tongue weight problem fixed! That condition will put you and your splitter and pickup in the ditch upside down so quick you won't even know what happened.

01-23-2008	#1 (permalink)
mopar65pa Opeler Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: PA Posts: 11	Unanswered: What is this engine???? Hello I have an Opel engine I just acquired. I have no idea what it came from it's on a log splitter and has been for a long time. The head is stamped with a 33 above 2-888-112 The block is stamped with a 33 above H-6M66 It has the intake and carb on the top of the engine. It's a single barrel carb with the exhaust out the right side (the same side the starter is on) Yes the tranny is hooked to it also and I have no idea what that is either. It's stick. I know nothing about these motors so any help would VERY much be appreciated. Thanks Tony Last edited by tekenaar; 01-24-2008 at 11:29 AM. Reason: barl

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oldopelguy Have Opel, Will Travel Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Saint Michael, MN Posts: 1,727 Logbook Entries: 3 Provided Answers: 2	Most likely it's a 1.0 or 1.1L from '64 or so through '72 here in the US. Would be right around 50hp. __________________ 1958 Rekord Sedan, 1958 Olympia Wagon, 1959 Opel Olympia Sedan, 1967 Kadett Coupe, 1967 Admiral Sedan 4L CIH-6, 1968 Kadett fastback 1.1L, 1970 Kadett Wagon Turbo 2.2L, 1971 Kadett Sedan 1.1L, 1975 Manta Wagon 4.3L V-6 Last edited by tekenaar; 01-24-2008 at 11:35 AM. Reason: '72

01-24-2008	#4 (permalink)
jeff denton former opel racer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: near some glaciers Posts: 2,863 Real Name: Jeff "Oh-Oh" Denton Provided Answers: 4	I wanna see this! Must be one heck of a log splitter to need 50 horsepower! __________________ No Opels were harmed in the filming of this movie. However two Mustangs, a Pinto, and a Capri were hospitalized. One Mustang was euthanized the next morning.

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heimue "The Jägermeister" Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newnan, GA - greater ATL area Posts: 1,515 Provided Answers: 3	motor size Check on the left side of the block, it should have a stamped number on a milled-over spot, possibly in between stars (like 10-xxxxxx), and the beginning of the number should be 10 (for a 1 liter) or 11 (for a 1.1 liter) engine. Dieter __________________ One 2.0-16V Opel is not enough

01-24-2008	#6 (permalink)
73Manta72gt Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winston-Salem, NC Posts: 341	seems like there were sawmill plans in Mother Earth News back in the 1960s/70s that used the 1.1L engine...maybe this is it? Can we see a picture? Last edited by tekenaar; 01-24-2008 at 09:35 AM. Reason: was?

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jlthunder 1000 Post Club Join Date: May 2003 Location: Salfordville, PA Posts: 2,143 Real Name: Jeff	Where in PA are you? We have members all over the state. Maybe one of us could stop by and take a look. __________________ 1972 Opel GT, Owner since 1983 2001 Saab 9-5 SE 3.0 Turbo V6 Weeeeeeeeeee!!! 1973 GT, Parted out, R.I.P. 1968 Kadette, Owner since 2006, Sold, 28 June 2008

01-24-2008	#8 (permalink)
yellaopelgt No....its not a Buick.... Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: IL. Posts: 1,042 Provided Answers: 1	I actually was told a long time ago that Opel built engines that were used for irrigation pumps and farming needs long ago and that they were bullet-proof back in the day..... could be a wives tale but thought I'd toss that out there as well. Joe __________________ What ...we got here...is........failure......................... to communicate.... Some men,you just cant reach...so you get what we had here last week...which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it...I dont like it, any more than you men...

01-24-2008	#10 (permalink)
oldopelguy Have Opel, Will Travel Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Saint Michael, MN Posts: 1,727 Logbook Entries: 3 Provided Answers: 2	I think that given the engine has a transmission attached it is more likely a home brew set-up than an original stationary motor set-up, but either way it should be an excellent motor for that purpose. I've long planned on swapping out the motor in one of my old IH tractors with a 1.1 Opel motor and trans when it dies, it just doesn't seem to want to die though. While the 1.1 isn't a remarkable motor for hp/cc or even hp/lb, it is a pretty dependable little motor and repair work on it is so basic that anyone can keep one running. The 1 bbl Solex on that motor is very dependable, and any VW mechanic can tune it easily. Like I typed, it should be an excellent motor for that application. __________________ 1958 Rekord Sedan, 1958 Olympia Wagon, 1959 Opel Olympia Sedan, 1967 Kadett Coupe, 1967 Admiral Sedan 4L CIH-6, 1968 Kadett fastback 1.1L, 1970 Kadett Wagon Turbo 2.2L, 1971 Kadett Sedan 1.1L, 1975 Manta Wagon 4.3L V-6 Last edited by tekenaar; 01-24-2008 at 11:37 AM. Reason: that

01-24-2008	#11 (permalink)
IT Manta Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Portland, OR 97212 Posts: 214 Provided Answers: 2	A four speed log splitter. __________________ Peter Linssen The V Shop ITB/FP '72 Manta EFI SPM Volvo 740 Turbo

01-24-2008	#13 (permalink)
mopar65pa Opeler Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: PA Posts: 11	I'm new here so I don't know all the ins and outs. I have pics how do I upload them? I will give you a link to the Dodge site I'm a member of it has pics on the thread. Yeah man a 4 speed log splitter....... LOL........... RCC Last edited by mopar65pa; 01-24-2008 at 06:36 PM.

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baz opel free after 26 years Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: sunderland england Posts: 4,941 Real Name: barry williams Provided Answers: 4	photo posting http://www.opelgt.com/forums/general...ers-101-a.html __________________ Copyright © 2003-2009 barry williams All Rights Reserved save praying to God for sunday today we pray to Nike and run like hell

01-24-2008	#18 (permalink)
GTJIM Old Opeler Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,686 Provided Answers: 12	Tiny - but Tough! That is for sure an Opel Kadett OHV (over-head-valve!) motor and g/box. On the other side of the block opposite the exhaust manifold there should be a machined surface with stamped engine numbers on it (looks like the pad Otto posted a picture of). Then we would know what capacity it was and approximately the year it was made. I have a feeling that 6M66 is the block casting date - maybe 1966 Good pictures! __________________ GTJim Opel Owner since last Century! Copyright © 2000-2009 J D Henry All Rights Reserved Last edited by GTJIM; 01-24-2008 at 07:12 PM.

01-24-2008	#20 (permalink)
GTJIM Old Opeler Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,686 Provided Answers: 12	Eleven Ess That is '11S' and is the optional - hi-performance 1.1 litre "Sports" motor from a 1965 Kadett - 60hp @ 5,600 rpm. The motor numbers started from 11-0000001 and went to 11-0407848 in 1964 and from 11-047849 on up in 1965. '64 was their first year of production - they soldiered on right in to the 1980's, as slightly larger 1.2L motors with many of the same parts, in Opel Corsas and up until 1992 in Vauxhall Novas! There are still parts about for them and several people on the forum are rebuliding 1.1L motors - including me! __________________ GTJim Opel Owner since last Century! Copyright © 2000-2009 J D Henry All Rights Reserved Last edited by GTJIM; 01-24-2008 at 08:43 PM.

01-24-2008	#21 (permalink)
jeff denton former opel racer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: near some glaciers Posts: 2,863 Real Name: Jeff "Oh-Oh" Denton Provided Answers: 4	That is a serious log splitter. Lots of pump and huge cylinder! Plenty of power, the engine won't even slightly strain, and the ram should cycle back and forth pretty quickly. Looks like she's gonna need a little work to get her going. I fear it has less than zero tongue weight, surely it isn't pulled very far or fast like that? __________________ No Opels were harmed in the filming of this movie. However two Mustangs, a Pinto, and a Capri were hospitalized. One Mustang was euthanized the next morning.

01-24-2008	#23 (permalink)
mopar65pa Opeler Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: PA Posts: 11	Awesome guys. For now my Dad is going to give me an 18 HP twin brigs for on the log splitter. with a little fab work and the ol' mig I'll have that mounted buy the end of the weekend....... I'm not sure what to do with the Opel motor yet. I don't know maybe I'll rebuild it and put it back on then. For now I just need to get the splitter running. You are right, NO tounge weight at ALL! I pulled it 4 miles to the house and it bounced the back of the truck the whole way! Thanks for all your help guys............. Now if I want to rebuild it I know what I have......... Tony If anyone is in need of the motor I'm open to offers............ Last edited by mopar65pa; 01-24-2008 at 09:31 PM.

01-24-2008	#24 (permalink)
heimue "The Jägermeister" Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newnan, GA - greater ATL area Posts: 1,515 Provided Answers: 3	I just can't help, but I have to re-post the comment from one of the Dodge guys: "It is a 1.9 cc what do you need to know about it. The 1.9 was the best of the two motors that Opal used. The 1.1 was a little under powered it was used it te Cadet's. The 1.9 was used in the Manta's and the GT models which were the sport model's. Opal was later bought out and imported by Isusu and then was produced in Japan." Yep, you are close... Dieter __________________ One 2.0-16V Opel is not enough

01-24-2008	#25 (permalink)
jeff denton former opel racer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: near some glaciers Posts: 2,863 Real Name: Jeff "Oh-Oh" Denton Provided Answers: 4	It wouldn't hurt to have a hydraulics expert look over your setup and determine by the ram size and pump model if 18 hp is enough, I'm gonna guess that it is. Be sure to get that tongue weight problem fixed! That condition will put you and your splitter and pickup in the ditch upside down so quick you won't even know what happened. __________________ No Opels were harmed in the filming of this movie. However two Mustangs, a Pinto, and a Capri were hospitalized. One Mustang was euthanized the next morning.

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