anyone got a twin groove pully for A/C

tekenaar · 06-29-2005

Originally Posted by BQS4

Dave;
It seems I have run into a batch of Mantas. I have one parked in the driveway right now (74 Rallye, rust bucket, being stripped for parts) and another waiting for me out in west GA this weeked (another 74 Rallye, again a rust bucket, but, has great parts) and another 75 Manta in east GA I intend looking at this weekend (again, another rust bucket waiting to be stripped)

Still looking for twin pulley A/C crank pulley and right side (Manta/1900), aluminum A/C pump mount . . .

nobody · 06-29-2005

Otto, this weekend I'll be picking up a twin pulley in a box of parts. I'm not sure about a mount but anything is possible. I'll post condensor pics so ya'll can help me identify what goes to what.

RallyBob · 06-29-2005

Otto, if Dave's pulley doesn't pan out I should have one too. No aluminum compressor brackets though, the ones I have are steel.

Bob

tekenaar · 06-29-2005

Originally Posted by RallyBob

Otto, if Dave's pulley doesn't pan out I should have one too. No aluminum compressor brackets though, the ones I have are steel.

Bob

Would've helped if I'd said right, as in correct or passenger, side . . . Senior Moment . . .

tekenaar · 06-30-2005

Originally Posted by RallyBob

Otto, if Dave's pulley doesn't pan out I should have one too. No aluminum compressor brackets though, the ones I have are steel.

Bob

Thanks for the twin pulley offers from RallyBob and nobody. Found an extra right side GM compressor bracket, BTW, but not going to work for what I want to do, so I'm not going to just cut it up.

Anyone have a cast iron air pump bracket or two from a '68 1.9 engine . . . and, maybe, an air pump that goes with it?

Two different projects: bracket and pump - modify pump to use in reverse (vacuum) to evacuate my 2.15 SSD crankcase; bracket only - modify bracket for mounting Nippodenso 10P08E compressor (very small, rescued from junk-yard many years ago for use in Opel) for hand-fabricated A/C in '69 Kadett.

Based on ~630 mile round trip to San Antonio last weekend, these old bones don't take too well to long, non-A/C drives in the summer heat down here anymore. A/C is on front burner, as I'll likely take '69 Kadett to OMC . . . if I go. Now you know . . . any of those in anyone's stash somewhere? I'll document and post on one or both projects.

RallyBob · 06-30-2005

Originally Posted by tekenaar

Based on ~630 mile round trip to San Antonio last weekend, these old bones don't take too well to long, non-A/C drives in the summer heat down here anymore. A/C is on front burner, as I'll likely take '69 Kadett to OMC . . . if I go. Now you know . . . any of those in anyone's stash somewhere? I'll document and post on one or both projects.

One of the ultimatums I had made to myself concerning the drive out to the OMC this year was I would only go if my wagon had A/C (my Canadian blood doesn't tolerate heat and especially humidity). That's a moot point now since I don't have the money to go and the wagon is nowhere near completed anyway. But, I was going to use the A/C I stripped from my Nissan Sentra which has a nice, efficient, lightweight compressor that will easily fit the turbo wagon. That said, I was going to have to make a mounting bracket for it anyway.

Otto, if you have a detailed drawing I could probably fab up an aluminum bracket in a couple of hours for you. Just a thought, and the practice wouldn't hurt me

Bob

nobody · 06-30-2005

It seems the guy with the wagon and GT had another wagon previous that had AC. I'm absolutely positive the condensor and pulley are there. I won't be needing either but they come with the parts lot. I'll be picking them and the wagon this weekend. There may be more GT and wagon AC bits yet uncovered on this one.

tekenaar · 06-30-2005

Originally Posted by nobody

It seems the guy with the wagon and GT had another wagon previous that had AC. I'm absolutely positive the condensor and pulley are there. I won't be needing either but they come with the parts lot. I'll be picking them and the wagon this weekend. There may be more GT and wagon AC bits yet uncovered on this one.

Thanks. Let me know when and what shipping, etc. would be. Thanks.

tekenaar · 06-30-2005

Originally Posted by RallyBob

One of the ultimatums I had made to myself . . . was . . . I was going to have to make a mounting bracket for it anyway.

Otto, if you have a detailed drawing I could probably fab up an aluminum bracket in a couple of hours for you. Just a thought, and the practice wouldn't hurt me

Bob

Sounds very intriguing, Bob, thanks for the offer. I'm enclosing a picture of the compressor with all the pertinent mounting dimensions so, if you can do the mockup of the block and crank with twin pulley for bracket dimensions there, all should be good to go. Let me know if you have any questions about compressor pic. Thanks for entertaining this.

nobody · 06-30-2005

Otto, do you ever get out to Fort Smith Arkansas?

tekenaar · 07-01-2005

Originally Posted by nobody

Otto, do you ever get out to Fort Smith Arkansas?

Not normally, but who knows . . .

RallyBob · 07-01-2005

Originally Posted by tekenaar

Sounds very intriguing, Bob, thanks for the offer. I'm enclosing a picture of the compressor with all the pertinent mounting dimensions so, if you can do the mockup of the block and crank with twin pulley for bracket dimensions there, all should be good to go. Let me know if you have any questions about compressor pic. Thanks for entertaining this.

How would you want it configured, as far as the 'clocking' of the compressor? I can see the bolt (size?) for the belt adjustment at the top of the pic...where would that be situated (since I don't know the routing of the compressor lines it would be important). What diameters are the lower mounting tab holes?

Bob

tekenaar · 07-02-2005

Bob,
How about a measurement from the centerline of the "V" of the front pulley from the dual pulley crank pulley to the machined front face of the block where the timing cover mounts? I get ~110mm estimating from standard single pulley at ~95mm for this dimension . . . close? Need more accurate measurements for some drawings I'm working up. Thanks.
Otto

tekenaar · 07-02-2005

Originally Posted by RallyBob

How would you want it configured, as far as the 'clocking' of the compressor? I can see the bolt (size?) for the belt adjustment at the top of the pic...where would that be situated (since I don't know the routing of the compressor lines it would be important). What diameters are the lower mounting tab holes?

Bob

Just did a mockup on the Kadett and realized there are serious V-belt drive to lower radiator hose interference issues if pump is mounted on right side of engine. Though I'll have to fab two brackets, much easier to mount alternator on right and compressor on left where alternator normally mounts. Come to think of it, I used the same arrangement on two GTs where I installed A/C . . . don't know what I was thinking.

I'll mount the pump low, pivot axis below pan rail, so that I don't have suction or pressure hose mounting interference issues at the distributor. Not sure yet, but may have to resort to idler pulley for pump belt tensioning. Still'd like to know c/l of front dual drive pulley to block face dimension if you have time. I'll toss together a dimensional drawing of required mounts.

RallyBob · 07-02-2005

Originally Posted by tekenaar

Still'd like to know c/l of front dual drive pulley to block face dimension if you have time.

I have a couple blocks sitting on an engine stand waiting for a pulley to measure from, but the double A/C pulleys I have are in my storage trailer, which is not local to me. If I can swing by there this weekend I'll try to get one. This weekend happens to be a non-automotive weekend, just trying to clean up some messes I started!

Bob

nobody · 07-02-2005

It looks like tomorrow is a go car crazy kinda day. I'll pick it up regardless and post dimensions on it. The big fireworks display for the town is so close I've been overwatering the lawn. No going anywhere that doesn't include an Opel this weekend.

namba209 · 07-03-2005

Otto, don't know if this will help you, I'm kinda out to lunch on anything other than a GT, but Beta Carotene, has a complete Manta AC system up for grabs in the classified ad section. Might be what you're after, IDK.

nobody · 07-03-2005

Otto, I didn't get a chance to measure it. On the other side tomorrow it's southbound.

tekenaar · 07-04-2005

Originally Posted by nobody

Otto, I didn't get a chance to measure it. On the other side tomorrow it's southbound.

Is the alternator/water pump V-belt driven from the rear pulley of dual crank pulley?

Assume so . . . thanks.

07-02-2005	#13 (permalink)
tekenaar Cunning Linguist Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Plano, TX 75074 Posts: 3,988 Classified Rating: 0% (0)	Block face to c/l front (dual) pulley measurement? Bob, How about a measurement from the centerline of the "V" of the front pulley from the dual pulley crank pulley to the machined front face of the block where the timing cover mounts? I get ~110mm estimating from standard single pulley at ~95mm for this dimension . . . close? Need more accurate measurements for some drawings I'm working up. Thanks. Otto

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nobody No Access Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: in transit Posts: 3,873 Classified Rating: 0% (0)	Otto, this weekend I'll be picking up a twin pulley in a box of parts. I'm not sure about a mount but anything is possible. I'll post condensor pics so ya'll can help me identify what goes to what.

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RallyBob Project 1450 supporter... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pleasant Valley, CT Posts: 6,552 Classified Rating: 0% (0) Provided Answers: 2	Otto, if Dave's pulley doesn't pan out I should have one too. No aluminum compressor brackets though, the ones I have are steel. Bob

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nobody No Access Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: in transit Posts: 3,873 Classified Rating: 0% (0)	It seems the guy with the wagon and GT had another wagon previous that had AC. I'm absolutely positive the condensor and pulley are there. I won't be needing either but they come with the parts lot. I'll be picking them and the wagon this weekend. There may be more GT and wagon AC bits yet uncovered on this one.

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nobody No Access Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: in transit Posts: 3,873 Classified Rating: 0% (0)	Otto, do you ever get out to Fort Smith Arkansas?

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nobody No Access Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: in transit Posts: 3,873 Classified Rating: 0% (0)	It looks like tomorrow is a go car crazy kinda day. I'll pick it up regardless and post dimensions on it. The big fireworks display for the town is so close I've been overwatering the lawn. No going anywhere that doesn't include an Opel this weekend.

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namba209 5,000 Post Club Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Imperial Beach, CA South of San Diego Posts: 5,974 Classified Rating: 0% (0) Provided Answers: 4	Otto, don't know if this will help you, I'm kinda out to lunch on anything other than a GT, but Beta Carotene, has a complete Manta AC system up for grabs in the classified ad section. Might be what you're after, IDK.

07-03-2005	#18 (permalink)
nobody No Access Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: in transit Posts: 3,873 Classified Rating: 0% (0)	Otto, I didn't get a chance to measure it. On the other side tomorrow it's southbound.