A/C console - Page 2

namba209 · 10-05-2005

Tim, That is a good looking dash you have there. Looks as good as the one I got from JustDashes, from what I could see in the pics. The two pics on the right, it appears as though they are the AC console, and it looks like they are the same construction as my dash. A very dense foam over a framework and vacuum formed vinyl on top. That would be hard to repair and the repair work not be seen IMHO. But don't let me dissuade you from trying, others have done very neat repairs, I don't have the talent, so I sent mine to the pros.

Jo Anna · 10-05-2005

Hey, just chiming in here late in the game--been out of town for awhile--a couple people who have looked at my GT have said that it once had A/C based on some parts I can't ID under the hood in front of the bumper. How can I confirm this?
Jo Anna

GT Tim · 10-05-2005

My po does fantastic fiberglass but $$$.Tha dash he did he says he would have charged $500 for the work"luckily I bought both his gt's and parts in a package."Joanna If you can take pics I can tell.You probably have a drier and or condensor.That is all that might be in that area.The drier is about the size of a soda can"little taller and skinnier than a soda can".Condensor looks like a mini radiator.

Jo Anna · 10-06-2005

Roger that and when son comes to visit this weekend, we'll snap some shots. Thanks so much!

GTJIM · 10-06-2005

Jo Anna, Here is a pic of the top of the condensor which is in the foreground - in front of the radiator.

GT Tim · 10-06-2005

Jim is that where the condensor is placed stock? I have an electric fan in that spot and was thinking of placing my condensor on the front beam that the horns are on.Thanks

baz · 10-06-2005

tim there is no "stock " place as the gt never came with air from the factory
it was fitted by dealers in those places that get warm and hot (lucky so and so's ) that is why the console looks like a dogs dinner (IMHO)
im sure in this day and age some car co.(i would think 1 of the small jap cars would be a good bet ) makes a small enough air con unit to mound in the stock heater place and use the stock vents without the hideous bit down the centre and a small enough condencer to mount where you say

namba209 · 10-06-2005

Guys, that is the GM AC setup, the dehydrator/filter site gage is just barely visible in the bottom right of the pic. That looks just exactly the same as what Willit? did before I started all this fun, right at 5 years ago.

EJprovost · 10-06-2005

Originally Posted by GT Tim

Finally I got my console.Took a little work but I got the parts I needed to finish.Thanks Ben and Liz

I have to agree with Baz, that the whole set up did look like a "Dogs Dinner" after I actually got to see it all! Those big tubes on the passanger side, and under the seat, the huge thing in the back, it all looked like it took up the space of a whole person. I can hardly wait to see what you did with it all Tim. See ya Saturday!

Happy Air conditioning!

GT Tim · 10-07-2005

That's why it needs Tim's touch.I had a sticker made wondering what you guy's and gals think?I am also running the condensor out of a 87 4 runner I will post pics later.

Tru-Craft · 10-07-2005

I had a couple small cracks in my console, fixed it with fiberglass and bondo. A good trick is to use a piece of vinyl or plastic with a simular texture or pattern as the console. Before the bondo totally dries push the plastic onto the area. Also take a small screw driver and try to push the bondo around to match as close as posible. Black paint or dye sprayed and rubbed into repair and it will look pretty good! Cheap fix!
Lyle

Jo Anna · 10-07-2005

Originally Posted by GTJIM

Jo Anna, Here is a pic of the top of the condensor which is in the foreground - in front of the radiator.

Hmmm, not looking like what I am seeing under the hood--will take and post photos next week--step daughter's wedding is next on agenda.
Thanks all.

Jo Anna

namba209 · 10-07-2005

From Liz' description of what she saw on the AC tubes on the pax side and under the seat, got me to thinking. The GM AC on Willit? had the referigerant lines under the car on the driver's side, of course that's where the compressor is too. But the evaperator/fan unit was under the shelf sitting in the cavity and the original shelf bolted/screwed to the top of the unit and the air intakes are part of a cover over the unit and covered the gap between the structure and the shelf. The whole package raised the shelf about 4-6" above the original height.

GT Tim · 10-07-2005

Are you saying use fiberglass resin?Why would you need bondo if you use resin?I like the tip useing another piece of plastic I was thinking of different ways but I will go with that.

Tru-Craft · 10-07-2005

Used the fiberglass resin and cloth underneath for strength if you can get to it. Bondo for the top side.

GT Tim · 10-08-2005

Thanks for the advice.I am a little busy this weekend so I will have to try it later this week.

Tru-Craft · 10-26-2005

How did the console work out? Decide on a compressor plan?
Was talking to Gil he said there working on the A/C stuff again so thats good news!

GT Tim · 10-27-2005

The comp is holding me back.After a little more thought I don't want to loose too much power.I was wondering if we can get some specific info and pics of your GT a/c?Your setup has lasted long enough for me.I know your a little busy right now but when you can that would be great.I will put pics of the progress later.Thanks Tim

Tru-Craft · 10-27-2005

Yep, air cleaner project taking up lots of time.
Gil is working on a AC system now. I gave him some info about mine. Now that the weather is getting cooler, I want to make some improvements to my A/C so I will try and get info. My condensor is mounted on the horn support like you were talking, about 10" x 20" with a pusher fan, Vintage air. The compressor is the hardest part, look at the radiator hose and picture an AC clutch unit fitting in there!!!! Let Gil know there is interest in the AC system! He has some ideas about a different radiator hose!!!! I would love to get one of those, and move my compressor to a better location.

GT Tim · 10-28-2005

The next project could be the a/c compressor brackets.Can't wait to see the carb plate.Thanks Tim

Tru-Craft · 10-28-2005

Thats a thought, AC bracket. If Gil can get the special radiator hose and pulley, I will redesign my bracket to move my Geo Metro compressor to a better position. I can make more than one!!! The one I have now is kind of like an alternator bracket with 3 mounting holes, a cutout to clear the oil pump housing and a tensioning bracket! Its a real tight fit!

Well, going to take my daughter out to a halloween thing, she's going as a witch, I'm going as an older balding guy

GT Tim · 10-30-2005

I did a little work on my console.I put it in my car for fun"I still need to swap out the dash". I think it looks pretty good for never doing work like this before.

GT Tim · 11-09-2005

I also thought I would add something else to the grills on the spacers.I was also looking though some boxes and found 2 different blitz's for the front.My 73 has the 1 on the left.I was wondering if the different style is a different year?I also found a smaller blitz same as the one on the rignt.Is that one from another GT? Thanks Tim

10-05-2005	#26 (permalink)
namba209 6,000 Post Club Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Imperial Beach, CA South of San Diego Posts: 6,033 Classified Rating: 0% (0) Provided Answers: 5	Tim, That is a good looking dash you have there. Looks as good as the one I got from JustDashes, from what I could see in the pics. The two pics on the right, it appears as though they are the AC console, and it looks like they are the same construction as my dash. A very dense foam over a framework and vacuum formed vinyl on top. That would be hard to repair and the repair work not be seen IMHO. But don't let me dissuade you from trying, others have done very neat repairs, I don't have the talent, so I sent mine to the pros.

10-05-2005	#27 (permalink)
Jo Anna Lempi: Feared by all Walleye Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Houghton, Michigan Posts: 154 Classified Rating: 0% (0)	Hey, just chiming in here late in the game--been out of town for awhile--a couple people who have looked at my GT have said that it once had A/C based on some parts I can't ID under the hood in front of the bumper. How can I confirm this? Jo Anna

10-05-2005	#28 (permalink)
GT Tim Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 479 Classified Rating: 0% (0)	My po does fantastic fiberglass but $$$.Tha dash he did he says he would have charged $500 for the work"luckily I bought both his gt's and parts in a package."Joanna If you can take pics I can tell.You probably have a drier and or condensor.That is all that might be in that area.The drier is about the size of a soda can"little taller and skinnier than a soda can".Condensor looks like a mini radiator.

10-06-2005	#29 (permalink)
Jo Anna Lempi: Feared by all Walleye Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Houghton, Michigan Posts: 154 Classified Rating: 0% (0)	Roger that and when son comes to visit this weekend, we'll snap some shots. Thanks so much!

10-06-2005	#31 (permalink)
GT Tim Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 479 Classified Rating: 0% (0)	Jim is that where the condensor is placed stock? I have an electric fan in that spot and was thinking of placing my condensor on the front beam that the horns are on.Thanks

10-06-2005	#32 (permalink)
baz opel free after 25 years Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: sunderland england Posts: 4,711 Classified Rating: 0% (0) Provided Answers: 1	tim there is no "stock " place as the gt never came with air from the factory it was fitted by dealers in those places that get warm and hot (lucky so and so's ) that is why the console looks like a dogs dinner (IMHO) im sure in this day and age some car co.(i would think 1 of the small jap cars would be a good bet ) makes a small enough air con unit to mound in the stock heater place and use the stock vents without the hideous bit down the centre and a small enough condencer to mount where you say

10-06-2005	#33 (permalink)
namba209 6,000 Post Club Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Imperial Beach, CA South of San Diego Posts: 6,033 Classified Rating: 0% (0) Provided Answers: 5	Guys, that is the GM AC setup, the dehydrator/filter site gage is just barely visible in the bottom right of the pic. That looks just exactly the same as what Willit? did before I started all this fun, right at 5 years ago.

10-07-2005	#36 (permalink)
Tru-Craft 1970-GT Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 1,193 Classified Rating: 0% (0) Provided Answers: 2	I had a couple small cracks in my console, fixed it with fiberglass and bondo. A good trick is to use a piece of vinyl or plastic with a simular texture or pattern as the console. Before the bondo totally dries push the plastic onto the area. Also take a small screw driver and try to push the bondo around to match as close as posible. Black paint or dye sprayed and rubbed into repair and it will look pretty good! Cheap fix! Lyle

10-07-2005	#38 (permalink)
namba209 6,000 Post Club Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Imperial Beach, CA South of San Diego Posts: 6,033 Classified Rating: 0% (0) Provided Answers: 5	From Liz' description of what she saw on the AC tubes on the pax side and under the seat, got me to thinking. The GM AC on Willit? had the referigerant lines under the car on the driver's side, of course that's where the compressor is too. But the evaperator/fan unit was under the shelf sitting in the cavity and the original shelf bolted/screwed to the top of the unit and the air intakes are part of a cover over the unit and covered the gap between the structure and the shelf. The whole package raised the shelf about 4-6" above the original height.

10-07-2005	#39 (permalink)
GT Tim Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 479 Classified Rating: 0% (0)	Are you saying use fiberglass resin?Why would you need bondo if you use resin?I like the tip useing another piece of plastic I was thinking of different ways but I will go with that.

10-07-2005	#40 (permalink)
Tru-Craft 1970-GT Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 1,193 Classified Rating: 0% (0) Provided Answers: 2	Used the fiberglass resin and cloth underneath for strength if you can get to it. Bondo for the top side.

10-08-2005	#41 (permalink)
GT Tim Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 479 Classified Rating: 0% (0)	Thanks for the advice.I am a little busy this weekend so I will have to try it later this week.

10-26-2005	#42 (permalink)
Tru-Craft 1970-GT Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 1,193 Classified Rating: 0% (0) Provided Answers: 2	How did the console work out? Decide on a compressor plan? Was talking to Gil he said there working on the A/C stuff again so thats good news!

10-27-2005	#43 (permalink)
GT Tim Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 479 Classified Rating: 0% (0)	The comp is holding me back.After a little more thought I don't want to loose too much power.I was wondering if we can get some specific info and pics of your GT a/c?Your setup has lasted long enough for me.I know your a little busy right now but when you can that would be great.I will put pics of the progress later.Thanks Tim

10-27-2005	#44 (permalink)
Tru-Craft 1970-GT Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 1,193 Classified Rating: 0% (0) Provided Answers: 2	Yep, air cleaner project taking up lots of time. Gil is working on a AC system now. I gave him some info about mine. Now that the weather is getting cooler, I want to make some improvements to my A/C so I will try and get info. My condensor is mounted on the horn support like you were talking, about 10" x 20" with a pusher fan, Vintage air. The compressor is the hardest part, look at the radiator hose and picture an AC clutch unit fitting in there!!!! Let Gil know there is interest in the AC system! He has some ideas about a different radiator hose!!!! I would love to get one of those, and move my compressor to a better location.

10-28-2005	#45 (permalink)
GT Tim Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 479 Classified Rating: 0% (0)	The next project could be the a/c compressor brackets.Can't wait to see the carb plate.Thanks Tim

10-28-2005	#46 (permalink)
Tru-Craft 1970-GT Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 1,193 Classified Rating: 0% (0) Provided Answers: 2	Thats a thought, AC bracket. If Gil can get the special radiator hose and pulley, I will redesign my bracket to move my Geo Metro compressor to a better position. I can make more than one!!! The one I have now is kind of like an alternator bracket with 3 mounting holes, a cutout to clear the oil pump housing and a tensioning bracket! Its a real tight fit! Well, going to take my daughter out to a halloween thing, she's going as a witch, I'm going as an older balding guy