Unknown color code

[pecje]

Hello,
can anybody help me identifying the color code of my GT since it is not listed in any list I've seen so far?
My car is an European GT registered in the Netherlands in febr 1969.
The color now is silver / grey.
The color code on the identification plate is L75.1 1.5
Thanks for helping

Patrick

[GTJIM]

L751 is the code for Black upholstery - the numbers stamped behind that will be the paint colour code. The upholstery and paint codes are stamped in the same area on the ID plate - causing a bit of confussion,as sometimes "Hans" may have had a beer or two too many before returning to work after lunch!

Carefully look to see what is there behind the "L751" - that will be the paint code.

[pecje]

Thanks for your replay.
I've checked the color code again, and the only numbers I see after the code for the upholstery (in my case L75.1 - so including a dot!) are 1.5 (also including a dot). If correct than the color code should be 1.5. Can anyone please tell me for what color these numbers stand? I've checked the car in every possible hole and corner and not a spec of a different color can be found.
Isn't there a possibility to find the color using the chasis serialnumber (941716123)?

[GTJIM]

I have found this site good for tracing Opel colours:

http://autocolorlibrary.com/cgi-bin/...-opel-pg08.jpg

The only colour there with "15" as an Opel paint code is "British Green" 336/15

Opel often used multiple codes - sometimes letters and sometimes numbers - in this case it would be either "336" or "15" See the grey numbers down the centre of the page.

The detail for my GT were obtained by a Dutch friend in Australia (Cees - on this site) through the Dutch Opel GT Club in your country. They contacted The Opel Company Public Relations Officer in Germany and found out the factory production details of my GT using the Chassis Serial Number.
This included the upholstery and paint colours plus the original engine number!

Contact the GT Club in your country and maybe they can contact Opel for you.

[CDN OpelNut]

My German is non-existant, but it looks like on page one there is a code beside the silver colour that says 1.5 wieb.

[saxybiker]

I have an Opel color chart and it shows two different color codes one for Europe (the German one) and one for the United States.

For a 1969 silver GT, the chart lists the German name as Silber and the color number as L-135 with a color code of UU.

The corresponding United States name is Astro Silver and the color code is PP.

I hope this helps.

Vickie

[pecje]

To everyone who responded:
I,ve looked behind the dashboard, the door cover panels and under the center consoles. The only color I can see is GOLD, could this be the original color (1.5) or is this just primer?? Can anybody mention a place where the original color could be overlooked when the car was repainted?

[BQS4]

Originally Posted by pecje To everyone who responded: I,ve looked behind the dashboard, the door cover panels and under the center consoles. The only color I can see is GOLD, could this be the original color (1.5) or is this just primer?? Can anybody mention a place where the original color could be overlooked when the car was repainted?

Have you looked back where the tank is?

[pecje]

Yes, same as in the other places : gold

[opelnut10]

I think you have answered your own question, if you have gold in those places then I would say the original color was gold. Those bodies were dipped and everywhere on them is the same color. That why it is such a pain to change the color on an Opel and make it look original. The only way is to completly strip the body shell and either acid dip it and start all over or spend a lot of time cleaning and primeing the body shell.

[pecje]

So maybe, I've found the original color of the car (gold or bronze), but what is the corresponding name of the color with code 1.5?

[pecje]

After I consulted a very friendly person at Adam Opel Russelheim by mail, he gave me some data regarding my car. See below:

Sehr geehrter Herr Aerts ,

vielen Dank für Ihre Anfrage vom 03. Oktober 2006.

Bezüglich Ihres Fahrzeuges haben wir die folgenden Daten vorliegen:

Fzg.-Ident.-Nr : 94 1716123
Fzg.-Typ : GT
Motortyp : 1900 S
Motornummer : 0276856
Produktionsdatum : 06.02.1969
Außenfarbe : britischgrün
Polsterfarbe : schwarz
Polstertyp : Kunstleder
Bezugshändlerort : Niederlande
Getriebetyp : 4-g, manuell
Lenkungstyp : L

So the original colour was British Green all the time!!

[2 Fast 4 U]

Originally Posted by pecje After I consulted a very friendly person at Adam Opel Russelheim by mail, he gave me some data regarding my car. See below: Sehr geehrter Herr Aerts , vielen Dank für Ihre Anfrage vom 03. Oktober 2006. Bezüglich Ihres Fahrzeuges haben wir die folgenden Daten vorliegen: Fzg.-Ident.-Nr : 94 1716123 Fzg.-Typ : GT Motortyp : 1900 S Motornummer : 0276856 Produktionsdatum : 06.02.1969 Außenfarbe : britischgrün Polsterfarbe : schwarz Polstertyp : Kunstleder Bezugshändlerort : Niederlande Getriebetyp : 4-g, manuell Lenkungstyp : L So the original colour was British Green all the time!!

Could you give me the name of the person and the E-Mail address A.U.B. en wat je in de E-Mail geschreven heb?? [als het niet teveel moeite is]

[tekenaar]

Originally Posted by CDN OpelNut My German is non-existant, but it looks like on page one there is a code beside the silver colour that says 1.5 wieb.

. . . it's probably actually weiß (weiss), German for white . . . and you reversed the "i" and the "e".

[tekenaar]

Originally Posted by pecje After I consulted a very friendly person at Adam Opel Russelheim by mail, he gave me some data regarding my car. See below: Sehr geehrter Herr Aerts , vielen Dank für Ihre Anfrage vom 03. Oktober 2006. Bezüglich Ihres Fahrzeuges haben wir die folgenden Daten vorliegen: Fzg.-Ident.-Nr : 94 1716123 Fzg.-Typ : GT Motortyp : 1900 S Motornummer : 0276856 Produktionsdatum : 06.02.1969 Außenfarbe : britischgrün Polsterfarbe : schwarz Polstertyp : Kunstleder Bezugshändlerort : Niederlande Getriebetyp : 4-g, manuell Lenkungstyp : L So the original colour was British Green all the time!!

That's a pretty rare color on a GT, are you going to restore it to original color? Learned something else . . . thought all the britischgrün GTs came with tan/camel interiors, hmmm!

[greenopelgt]

Is the interior Black or White?

I agree with Otto - since I own one I have read a lot about the specific details related to my car but it is a USA Opel GT. As I understand it the British Green was accented with a Buckskin interior.

European GT's could have been "special ordered" maybe? Maybe someone had some pull...who knows?

Another mystery.....Gotta love'em.


Tom Adkins
Cincinnati, Ohio
Ms. Opel GT
1.1 Liter

[tekenaar]

Originally Posted by greenopelgt Is the interior Black or White? I agree with Otto - since I own one I have read a lot about the specific details related to my car but it is a USA Opel GT. As I understand it the British Green was accented with a Buckskin interior. European GT's could have been "special ordered" maybe? Maybe someone had some pull...who knows? Another mystery.....Gotta love'em. Tom Adkins Cincinnati, Ohio Ms. Opel GT 1.1 Liter

Originally Posted by pecje After I consulted a very friendly person at Adam Opel Russelheim by mail, he gave me some data regarding my car. See below: . . . Außenfarbe : britischgrün Polsterfarbe : schwarz Polstertyp : Kunstleder . . . So the original colour was British Green all the time!!

. . . original color of "upholstery" was schwartz/black and it was made out of kunstleder/vinyl . . .

[jvandyke]

Originally Posted by pecje So the original colour was British Green all the time!!

I wonder how it could have been British Green when you find ample evidence that it was originally gold. I would think the data wrong and the gold color on the car the best evidence.

[tekenaar]

Originally Posted by jvandyke I wonder how it could have been British Green when you find ample evidence that it was originally gold. I would think the data wrong and the gold color on the car the best evidence.

. . . tell me why the factory would indicate anything on the VIN tag but what it was originally?!! There are very stringent laws concerning this in both the manufacturing and importation countries, Germany and USA!

[jvandyke]

Originally Posted by tekenaar . . . tell me why the factory would indicate anything on the VIN tag but what it was originally?!! There are very stringent laws concerning this in both the manufacturing and importation countries, Germany and USA!

No idea, tag misread, data at factory inaccurate, tag swapped, human error at any point? I don't know, not trying to be difficult just that if all the nooks and crannies are gold, car was probably gold to start, unless it was repainted gold over green and done really well, then painted again, not so well? I would think one could go down to metal at some inconspicuous point and find out for sure.

[baz]

it could be as simple as the shell has been changed at some time


maybe legitimately maybe not , who knows !!

[rowdygt]

I like the "Hans" and the 12 pack lunch theory the best !!

[pecje]

Hello everybody,
I,ve checked the ID-plate again and I can't see any manipulations. Of course its always possible that the ID plate is from an other car, but I can't find any evidence of that. The colorcodes L75.1 (the dot is very hard to see) and 1.5 are really on the plate together. What I know of the car is that it originally belonged to the Dutch 3M importer of car-interior products, so maybe the car was custommade. That could explain the rare combination of a British Green body and black interior. If the ID-plate isn't from an other car, than the only explanation I can give is, that in the past the car was completely stripped and sand-blasted and repainted in the silver/grey color using gold/bronze-like paint as primer. Even behind the carpets the body is painted silver/grey. So a job well done. The car is in excellent shape without any traces of rust.
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[2 Fast 4 U]

This is what I came up with, with Opera I can enlarge the photo and did so to 300% there is no point or dot between the 5 and the 1 so the color is L751 and is made of these colors:

751 Mt/Mt Hellsilber (753)/Stahlgrau (849)

British Green Mt 336 /15
British Racing Green Uni 348 46L
British Racing Green Uni 394 2LU

This what I found on the colors British Green / British Racing Green

If you can take an other photo that is a bit sharper and a little more to the right, maybe I can see what's stamped in. and what it says in the pre stamped part of the VIN tag

The only way now to see the original color is to scratch or sand paper the paint away in a place that doesn't mater and repaint afterwards

[pecje]

For me there is no doubt anymore regarding the original color since opel Russelsheim clearly states that the colors belonging to ID-number 941716123 are black (L751) for the interior and British Green (15) for the body. And yes there are dots between as well L75 and 1 and between 1 and 5. Only the dot between the code for the upholstery is very hard to see on the picture. But there is really one there: if you don't believe come and see!.
Best regards Patrick