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Angry Unanswered: Special Deluxe Edition GT Model #95?

I talked a little about this subject on the chatroom and really did not get any answers...

in my manual there in a 2 door coupe (A GT) model # 93 then there's a 2 door coupe called a "special deluxe edition" model # 95. My 69 gt is a 95 model and a special deluxe, my question is what is so special about the special deluxe edition???


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In the CD I got from Hans in Germany it is described as follows:

Series 95: 95HP - HICOMP - 4SP - 3:67 GEARS - 2065Lbs
388 units imported to US - discontinued 11/69.
The two versions of the general maintenance manuals for '69 don't say anything about it being special. Why it was a deluxe model, not a clue.

You have a very rare vehicle, perhaps more info can be found.
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According to some of my books & info, a 92 (95) is the Super Deluxe of the 92 which is GM Rallye Coupe. I believe that would make it a version of the many Kadett body styles. What makes it a 95 version is a good question, but I don't think they were GTs. Only 93 & 94 models were GTs.

My reasoning for this is that the 2 Door - Super Deluxe was available from 1968-1970. And in 1968 it was just known as a 92, the 95 hadn't been added to it. The 92 (R) was the GM Rallye Coupe & the 99 was the LS Sport coupe. All of these are Kadett platform Opels. The 93 & 94 GT models are not in my US info for 1968.

I'm sure Stephen (oldopelguy) will know the answer as he is probably the most knowledgeable Kadett person on this site.

69-70 Opel Model Chart

31 2 Door Sedan

39 Deluxe Wagon

91 2 Door Sport Sedan

92 (95) 2 Door Coupe - Super Deluxe

92 GM Rallye Coupe

93 GT Sport Coupe 1.1

94 GT Sport Coupe 1.9
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What told you the model # on your GT? The Vin? You got me thinking now.
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Questions to Answer

What is the VIN Number on this GT,
including the first 2 numbers?

Does this GT have a front anti-sway bar,
that bolts to the front suspension lower control
arms?

Does this GT have a small number,
like "W = 990" in the lower middle of the
speedometer? If so, what is that number?

Is there a small metal tag affixed to the
center of the rear axle, stating that a special
fluid is to be used?

Those would be clues that would confirm
a "special" GT.

Aside from that, the description reads that
it is a Kadett Rallye.
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special or not???

Vin # 9411831651

the # in the middle of "speedo" w877

I'll try to get other info tomorrow,like I said it could be special, could not be special
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Check the numbers

A VIN has only 9 digits.

Could it be: 941831651? or 941183165?

If its the first, it's build date is June 1970.
If its the second, I'd need the engine serial
numbers or the month stamp on the back
of the dash gauges, to determine its 1969
build date.

The stock 4speed speedo would be
marked "W=897"

Does that match yours?
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The first 2 digits of the VIN indicate the model. Yours are 94, which is a GT. Period.

There were 2 engines offered in 69, the 1.1L (model 93) and the 1.9L, but no such thing as a "super special deluxe" GT.

My 69 factory service manual lists a model 95 described as a "deluxe sport coupe", but as Tom said it was a Kadett. I have a 69 Kadett sales brochure that includes the model 95 ("super deluxe coupe"). The VIN for this model would start with 95.
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The only model 95 I have actually seen in person was a '69 Kadett I took apart in college. (I still have the title documentation.) It had been made up to look like a Rallye, so I can't be sure what was origional to the car and what had been added on to it. (It had front and rear sway bars, for example, and fog lights but also the full wood interior dressings and a clock.) According to the literature I have all the deluxe models were LS models, though there were LS models that were not Deluxe according to the VIN. Also, there are two different referances that list the model 95 as being available with the 1.1, 1.5, and 1.9 motors.

I doubt very much you would be able to spot one from a casual glance, it would probably look like a very well apportioned Kadett. In fact, I think Kevin Fier's wagon probably has more options than the basic Delux model would, including the chrome strips on the sides and such.
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Chassis numbers Cars from 9/56 Model Year 1957, until 8/74 Model Year 1974

Example: 880123456

Digits 1 - 2:
Model & type
Digits 3 - 9:
On going chassis number, goes further every year

GT
93 = Coupe 2 door
94 = Coupe 2 door Luxus

Kadett B
91 = Limousine 2 door Sedan LS
92 = Coupe 2 door
96 = Limousine 4 door Sedan LS

Chassis numbers Cars from 9/74 Model Year 1975 until 8/81 Model Year 1981

Example: 88510123456

Digits 1 - 2: Model & type

Digits 3: Model year:
5.= 1975
6.= 1976
7.= 1977
8.= 1978
9.= 1979
0.= 1980
1.= 1981

Digits 4: Plant (Country):
1 = Rüsselsheim (Germany)
2 = Bochum (Germany)
3 = Azambuja (Portugal)
4 = Zaragoza (Spain)
5 = Antwerp II (Belgium)
6 = Antwerp I (Belgium)

Digits 5 - 11: On going chassis number, new begin every new model year

Kadett C:
91 = Limousine 2 door Sedan / Sedan Luxus
92 = Coupe 2 door Berlinetta
93 = Limousine 2 door Hatchback / Hatchback Luxus
94 = Caravan 2 door / 2 door Luxus
95 = Limousine 2 door Hatchback Berlina
96 = Limousine 4 door Sedan / Sedan Luxus
97 = Limousine 4 door Sedan Berlina
98 = Limousine 2 door Sedan Berlina
99 = Caravan door Berlina
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The first 2 digits of the VIN indicate the model. Yours are 94, which is a GT Luxus. Period.
There were 2 engines offered in 69, the 1.1L (model 93) and the 1.9L, but no such thing as a "super special deluxe" GT.
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My 69 factory service manual lists a model 95 described as a "deluxe sport coupe", but as Tom said it was a Kadett. I have a 69 Kadett sales brochure that includes the model 95 ("super deluxe coupe"). The VIN for this model would start with 95.
This would be for the US market?? The European market doesn't mention model 95 until the C typ Kadett, and this is after september 1974
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A VIN has only 9 digits.

Could it be: 941831651? or 941183165?

If its the first, it's build date is June 1970.
How do you know this???
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thanks!!!

The speedo was w-877.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous D View Post
A VIN has only 9 digits.

Could it be: 941831651? or 941183165?

If its the first, it's build date is June 1970.
If its the second, I'd need the engine serial
numbers or the month stamp on the back
of the dash gauges, to determine its 1969
build date.

The stock 4speed speedo would be
marked "W=897"

Does that match yours?
I think it has to be 941831651. My GT has VIN #941671024, and was first time registered january 10, 1969, so probably built in 1968. I doubt there is any GTs with a VIN # as low as 941183165.
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I'll look at the #'s tomorrow and put every # I can find on my car!!!
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("A VIN has only 9 digits.
Could it be: 941831651? or 941183165?
If its the first, it's build date is June 1970.")

RE: "How do you know this???"

See: OMC Blitz, October 2006, Page 3
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Originally Posted by Anonymous D View Post
("A VIN has only 9 digits.
Could it be: 941831651? or 941183165?
If its the first, it's build date is June 1970.")

RE: "How do you know this???"

See: OMC Blitz, October 2006, Page 3
(That's why, the newsletter is written).
Don't have the news letter , so enlighten my ignorance
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Just Ask!

Ask any OMC member, for the answer.

(That's why the Blitz is written).
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Ask any OMC member, for the answer.

(That's why the Blitz is written).
I did in the posting before yours, remember?

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Don't have the news letter , so enlighten my ignorance
Maybe its not direckt enough for you, so I'll ask again how do you know:

Originally Posted by Anonymous D
If its the first, it's build date is June 1970.
If its the first, it's build date is June 1970. How can you tel it's a 6/70 GT
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A special edition GT? Not from Opel. I don't know if this applies, but, did any dealer ever add any special paint or other option to the GT and sold them in limited numbers? I know that has happened to other autos back in the 60's and early 70's. Jerry
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A special edition GT? Not from Opel. I don't know if this applies, but, did any dealer ever add any special paint or other option to the GT and sold them in limited numbers? I know that has happened to other autos back in the 60's and early 70's. Jerry
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