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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Lenexa, kansas
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Unanswered: buying guide
some questions i have: How to check if it's high or low comp. engine- the guy says it is How to check if it's an earlier head- has a different head on it Any rust prone spots, ect. |
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I don't think what you are looking for exists but the questions you are asking have answers on the seach engine of the forums. There has been considerable discussions on each of the topics you present. You might want to take a couple of minutes and run thru each one of the different threads provided. Some of the reading can over whelm you but it is ALL there. As far as rust, our poor Opel GTs have a major problem with the battery support.
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"Also avoid body damage -- Use a magnet to locate "bondo" body-filler areas. When damage is in in the rotation area of the GT headlights, it can be very difficult to repair." Fixing previous "patches" and eliminating bondo repairs has been a significant part of the work required to restore my GT which, if you've been following the project thread on my car, you know had a lot of hidden surprises when it came back from the sandblaster.
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I'm not too conserned about bondo, because i will have to use bondo anyway. i don't have the resources (or money-i'm only a teenager) to fix any small damage. he says it is a pretty solid car, but in the pic it has some bodo (hopefully not too deep) on the side.
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Post up some pics and maybe we could help determine a value.. or at least if he is asking too much.
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Opeler
Join Date: Jan 2006
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i'll try to post some pics. he's asking 1400 with it needing a complete interior and a new paint job. also needs shocks and pinion bearing and seal. it's had a lot done to it mechanically and a rebuilt head. here is one of the emails i got from him. i think it sounds like a ok deal or too much if he would get it running, but not quite sure with it needing a lot of cosmetic work.
"I removed the rear axle, drivetrain, tranny and front suspension system. I cleaned and painted them all. I installed new bearings and seals in the front, along with all new poly suspension bushings. I installed 4 new ball joints. I put new seals in the tranny and new front and rear main seals in the engine. New pilot bearing. I rebuilt both front and rear brake hoses and rebuilt the calipers and cylinders.The rear end needs a new pinion bearing and seal as it makes noise. I installed new rear poly suspension bushings.I removed the notoriously bad headlight wiring and replaced it.I dont think you will find one that has had this much mechanical done to it for this kind of a price. I never touched the body and you can see the bondo in the pic. It does have two holes in the floor by the rear axles. The interior is bad. It currently has no shocks." Last edited by opelkid; 03-23-2007 at 09:42 PM. |
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If you are interested in WAVELET ANALYSIS OF IMAGE REGISTRATION I'm sure Todd Kirby could explain more about it to you.
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Opeler
Join Date: Jan 2006
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here are a couple of pics
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...46_64_full.jpg http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...46_63_full.jpg and it comes with door panels and center council |
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Opeler
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Hudsonville, Michigan, USA
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I'd guess, if it's not got very serious rust problems and the engine and drive train are solid, $1,000 max.
$700 in interior pieces (seats, panels, carpet, dash cover) body and paint is the expensive part, very expensive rust repair Offer him $500. Play hard ball. I looked at one worse than that last year close by me. Guy was asking $2,000 I tried not to show it but I think he saw me laughing.
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Opeler
Join Date: May 2006
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You might be better off low balling him as he's likely just looking to ditch it rather than get him to fix it. Usually if someone (myself included) has lost interest in something, the last thing they want to do is work on it. Then maybe if he's in a hurry and just does a fast crappy job installing parts on a car he just wants gone you don't want him doing it anyway. I could be reading it all wrong, depends totally on the guy and his attitude.
When I was looking to buy the constant advice was get as straight a body as you can.
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Maybe the fact that the car was being sold by a member of the forum should have been mentioned a little earlier on...
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'72 Opel GT (Fireglow Orange) Third Owner, Purchased in 1986 Current Status: Fully Restored Major Mods: Weber Carb, High Compression Pistons, Electronic Ignition, XM Radio / CD, ADDCO Front / Rear Anti-Sway-Bars, Custom CAI, Sprint Manifold Restoration Thread Comments Thread Other Cars: '09 Pontiac G8 GT (Panther Black) '06 Pontiac Solstice (Envious Green) '99 Oldsmobile Intrigue GLS (Black Onyx) |
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yea....its a small opel world after all.
(open mouth and insert foot) Joe
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What ...we got here...is........failure......................... to communicate.... Some men,you just cant reach...so you get what we had here last week...which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it...I dont like it, any more than you men... |
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Opeler
Join Date: Jan 2006
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yah, tom, i was just trying to check things out before i came down today. i didn't say your name until later so as to not offend you or anything, but that will make a selling point seeing how you would probably have taken care of it better than some.
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Opeler
Join Date: May 2006
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a seller who has a good reputation and experience with the car is worth paying more for!
maybe a good ruler is knowing a decent GT sells for 3-4k, then work backwards, if it needs body touch up and paint and you can do it or get help and make it happen for $1,000 then pay 2 for the car, you'd have your nice GT for 3. If you can't do the body and paint yourself or with buddies, then you'll pay 4K plus for body and paint work, then you'd better wait and buy a nicer GT for 4 up front, if you don't have 4 wait until you do, nothing worse than unfinished project and all the money thrown at it was a waste. Don't buy a car just because you can afford it but can't afford to fix it up. I would have done that many times in the last year but I held out and I'm glad I did. The cost of making "nice" is part of the cost of the car and it's cheaper to buy "nice" then make "nice". Luke 14:28 28"Suppose one of you wants to build a tower. Will he not first sit down and estimate the cost to see if he has enough money to complete it?
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Palm Coast, FL
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the only place that i have rust on mine is on the drivers front fender. I don't know if anyone else has this problem but it may be a good thing to check if anyone has tried to fix it and has failed. The only thing that you need to do by that is just run your hand on the inside of the fender and see if there is anything back there.
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