68 Opel Gt

[Dennis Texas]

everytime I seach for past articles all I get is several pages and only the word opel and GT are in red...go figure surely I'm doing somethig wrong...

Anyway aside from the split bumper and no indention behind license plate and heater valve inside what else is known for sure on identifying one of these rare models.
The reason for asking is over the years I'm sure guages and removable devices have or could of been swapped out. I have all the characteristics of the 68 and original color was silver according to paint code but interior is black and dash has been changed out to one with circles not rectangular turn indicators on dash.
I just wanted to know if the chassis number or frame next to radiator code number has been researched to prove the actual year, mine may of been after the 8/68 date as it is titled as a 69.

[hallgeir]

Hi
As mentioned before in an earlier thread started by you, I am an owner of a -69
model year GT made in dec 68.
We`ve been talking about this 68-69 thing before on this site. Here is a link to a thread you can read. Be sure to follow all the links in it as well: http://www.opelgt.com/forums/gt/1261...8-opel-gt.html

You should also compare your VIN# to this list:
Opel GT-Fahrgestellnummern

[Dennis Texas]

darn talk about memory lapse
I had talked to someone about my car earlier and appartently it was connected withthat site my car is already on it
Opel GT-Fahrgestellnummern

1 651 241 94 U 1080 US split bumper Gator Texas .....that s my car

941651241 on car and on the title it is 93941651241 why the extra digits preceding have no idea

Thanks for your reply and the links

[hallgeir]

That is interesting. Then you actually belongs to the small group of 1968-production GTs owners. There is no doubt about your car is made in 1968, but I think it still is a model year 1969, just like mine. Mine is the one with the VIN# 941671024, made in mid dec 1968.
The extra digits on your title must be a misprint, I think. 93 is actually the 1.1 l model.
Here`s one more link: der alte Opel GT - Produktionszahlen

[Ricky Slade]

Originally Posted by Dennis Texas darn talk about memory lapse I had talked to someone about my car earlier and appartently it was connected withthat site my car is already on it Opel GT-Fahrgestellnummern 1 651 241 94 U 1080 US split bumper Gator Texas .....that s my car 941651241 on car and on the title it is 93941651241 why the extra digits preceding have no idea Thanks for your reply and the links

I have what I consider a 1969 GT with title problems. My car had a 1.1 and was titled as 93 941725061. The only thing we can figure out at the courthouse, as the car exchanged owners, someone asked about engine size. They added the 93 designation on the paperwork. There is no preceeding 93 on the VIN plate. Just another stupid legal registration mistake. The 93 I think designated the 1.1 engine. Maybe I should question the 94 that is on the plate. ha!! I actually had to go to the highway safety patrol and allow them to certify the VIN and its location and appearance of the rivets. Thanks goodness no one messed with this part of the car.

[Dennis Texas]

hey I was hunting ebay one of my past times and ran across this ad .
eBay Motors: Opel : GT (item 320176362499 end time Nov-05-07 19:00:00 PST)

if you look at vehicle number it is probably one of the few 1.1's made in 68 as well
VIN Number: 931736270 I emailed for the U code on the radiator support. Wish it was not so far away I would consider it LOL looks at all the Gt's around here now ...

[G54B-GT]

Originally Posted by Dennis Texas darn talk about memory lapse I had talked to someone about my car earlier and appartently it was connected withthat site my car is already on it Opel GT-Fahrgestellnummern 1 651 241 94 U 1080 US split bumper Gator Texas .....that s my car 941651241 on car and on the title it is 93941651241 why the extra digits preceding have no idea Thanks for your reply and the links

Does anyone have a pic of the split bumper?
Does it look like a one piece(wraparound) but is in two pieces, or is it literally two seperate pieces like the rear bumper??

[G54B-GT]

I have been searching all over the forums to try and find a pic of the infamous "Split Bumper".
Anybody got a pic?
I've been all over the OMC site as well.....
This is driving me nuts,I have never seen one before!!

[kwilford]

Originally Posted by G54B-GT I have been searching all over the forums to try and find a pic of the infamous "Split Bumper". Anybody got a pic? I've been all over the OMC site as well..... This is driving me nuts,I have never seen one before!!

Threads merged...

I have only seen photos of the rare split bumper, and it is simply that: a two piece bumper that from more than 10 feet way appears exactly alike the later one piece unit. I thought I had some photos of one, both on a GT and off, which also showed the reinforcement detail. But it isn't coming to hand right now.

[G54B-GT]

Thanks,
that is what I suspected, but I was trying to conjure an image of two seperate pieces (ex 1970 z28 camaro) and imagine if I would like it or not.
My opel build is going to be semi-custom (some mild body mods) and I was searching for inspiration.
Appreciate the help!

[GTJIM]

Here is a picture of the 1968/69 "split" front bumper. Notice that it has actually been made in to separate halves and is not joined at the centre point.
This style of bumper was used well into the 1969 model year so does not, in itself, make a GT with it a 1968 Model.
Reliable sources indicate that only 31 "True" 1968 GTs were brought to the US of A as demonstrators.

[PROPEL]

I have an original split bumper in storage. I can dig it out and take detailed pictures for reference. Another thing to note, the bumper(s) have slightly different mounting points. Ever wonder what those two extra holes are for on the stock GT bumper mounting bracket? I believe they are legacy from the split bumper.

As far as the split goes, does anybody know whether there was a trim molding which filled the center seam? I used the silver OEM type molding used around the front bumperettes (sold by OGTS), and it worked well.

I used to have these bumpers on my 68/69 1.1L until some idiot with a trailer hitch backed into one of the freshly-rechromed bumpers and dinged it! I took that as a sign, and immediately replaced these rare oddities with the common one-piece style.

[G54B-GT]

Thanks for the pic!
If they are that rare (31) then an opeler really needs to pick that one up from ebay before it heads to an untimely demise!! ^

[GTJIM]

That is an early 1969 built GT VIN 931736270 with Karosserie-Nr. U3163 and one of the rarer 1.1L motors but not one of the pre-production ones which probably have VINs below **1600000 and body build numbers under U600.

A nice, early 1.1 litre GT ... and well worth saving!

[PROPEL]

I believe there were 12 "official" 1968 1.1L GTs. Not much info on them, but maybe that figure is in addition to the 31? (I'm not saying that this car is one of those, btw.) So 43 in total??? Yeah, I love dumb speculation.

[Dennis Texas]

Originally Posted by G54B-GT Does anyone have a pic of the split bumper? Does it look like a one piece(wraparound) but is in two pieces, or is it literally two seperate pieces like the rear bumper??

late in posting,.. the picture is accurate and so is most of the information people have added. The split front bumper is basically a full bumper cut in half it is chromed on the cut portion no trim piece that I am aware off. In fact my early model 68/69 I used a full bumper to replace the split bumper due to some peeling chrome on the split bumper and it bolted right up tothe brackets with no modifications. I'm recently having to dig all these parts back out of storage to get rechromed and get car back to the original condition again. Luckily when I changed parts for nicer looking parts I kept the originals in storage.

[jak133]

hello, have read entire thread numerous times but in referance to the u number where exactly is it i looked everywhere on my radiator bracket could not find it vin# is 941841973, tag above firewall on passenger side says body # which is 570 if anyone has pick of u code could you send it. thanks

[jvandyke]

I think this is it.

[GTJIM]

The Body Build Number (Karosserie-Nr.) - prefixed with a "U" - is stamped upon the Driver's side gusset for the radiator mounting bulkhead.

All the information necessary for individuals to find out the Model year and relative build time is available in the postings above - take the inititive and look for yourselves!

See - Opel GT-Fahrgestellnummern - link !**!

The one for my 1972 GT is pictured below:

[jak133]

thank you, by the way from vin could you tell me if this is 69 or 70 car seems to have 70 or later parts but also has some 69.

[Anonymous D]

This topic was covered (back in 1995).

A link to the text, is at:

What Year Is It?

[jak133]

Originally Posted by Anonymous D This topic was covered (back in 1995). A link to the text, is at: What Year Is It?

yeah saw that, appears mine was made sometime june-july 69 wanted to know for sure i'm purchasing some parts and wanted the right ones

[bear's GT]

Originally Posted by GTJIM The Body Build Number (Karosserie-Nr.) - prefixed with a "U" - is stamped upon the Driver's side gusset for the radiator mounting bulkhead. All the information necessary for individuals to find out the Model year and relative build time is available in the postings above - take the inititive and look for yourselves! See - Opel GT-Fahrgestellnummern - link !**! The one for my 1972 GT is pictured below:

Opel GT-Fahrgestellnummern

I went to the web site and did not understand how to read the thing. On one of my 69 parts car it has 05 444 in the radiator gusset it came with a 1.1.
I have seen the numbers on the Opels I really had no idea why they were there.