GT VIN # starts with 79.

[Evil-Bob]

Hi.
I'm bying a GT, wich is supposed to be a -71.
But, the vin-number starts with 79246. And, I can't seem to find any referance to vin-numbers starting with 79 anywere.
Can someone help me with this one, because I've clearly got something wrong here.

Thanks.

[tekenaar]

'71 1.9 GTs start with 77 for model number . . . check this!

Have them send a pic of the VIN plate and post it here.

[Phoenix]

Did they have the driver door sticker on European models as well or just US models? I haven't seen too many cars that didn't have it but they were all US spec cars. If they do have them, check the inside part of the door for a metallic sticker. It should have the build date. XX/XX

[Anonymous D]

European GT/J models had a vin starting with 79.

[opelgtworld]

Series 1

Typ 93 (GT 1100) 08/1968 - 06/1970 - total production: 3573
Typ 94 (GT 1900) 08/1968 - 07/1970 - total production: 47707

Series 2

Typ 77 (1900 US) 08/1970 - 07/1973 - total production: 37726
Typ 79 (1900) 08/1970 - 07/1973 - total production: 3697
Typ 79 (GT/J) 03/1971 - 07/1973 - total production: 10760

[Anonymous D]

VIN's for 1973 US models, started with "OY0"

If European models all used a #79 prefix, then identification of a GT/J would be by the parts installed: Matte Black bumpers and gas cap, limited dash instrumentation, etc. I thought that #79 referred only to that model (which we don't see very often here).

[opelgtworld]

GM / Buick used its own identification "0Y07" for the Typ 77 cars starting from the chassis number 2 944 586. Starting from this chassis number the engine performance was indicated as 75 HP SAE.

[opelgtworld]

Originally Posted by Evil-Bob Hi. I'm bying a GT, wich is supposed to be a -71. But, the vin-number starts with 79246. And, I can't seem to find any referance to vin-numbers starting with 79 anywere. Can someone help me with this one, because I've clearly got something wrong here. Thanks.

VIN 2 46.... is approximate March 1971

[Evil-Bob]

Nice guys, thanks.
According to the papers it got its license-plates March 26. 1971.
I should have taken a pic of the vin-plate when I was looking at it.
The bumpers where black, but seemed to have been chromed before.
The car is partly disassembled, so it was hard to catch all details. But it dit not have the pop-out rear quarter windows. Maybe the GT/J didn't have these?

[opelnut10]

Originally Posted by Evil-Bob Nice guys, thanks. According to the papers it got its license-plates March 26. 1971. I should have taken a pic of the vin-plate when I was looking at it. The bumpers where black, but seemed to have been chromed before. The car is partly disassembled, so it was hard to catch all details. But it dit not have the pop-out rear quarter windows. Maybe the GT/J didn't have these?

GT/J did not have pop out quarter windows, if the bumpers look chrome maybe they were changed at sometime for some reason. Check the number on the radiator support if it matches the numbers on the vin plate (minus the 79) then it should be a GT/J original. Does it have a rubber floor mat instead of carpet?

[opelgtworld]

The most important GT/J characteristics :

-Vinyl seats and door linings without structured surface.
-Narrower inside door handles of the Kadett B
-Rubber floor mats in front and in the back
-Missing "bag" at the driver's door
-Interior rear view mirror not dippable
-Foot pump for the windshield wiper system
-No cigarette lighter
-No engine compartment light
-No OPEL GT emblem at the glove compartment

[Sparky73]

I am curious if this IS in fact a GT/J. I don't know if I ever recall hearing of anyone actually owning one.. anyone?

[Motor Mouth]

I guess I'm one of the lucky ones, i've had 2 GT/J's already.......i guess it comes from owning tooooooo many GT's altogether.

Other specific characteristics are:
- Thinner and non-lockable matt black Fuel Cap.
- Rubber rimmed steering wheel.
- Wheel rims without chrome outer rings or centres.
- Solid front / rear and quarter window rubbers....no chrome inserts.
- blanking plate instead of a clock.

The list goes on, but not many survive with the rubber mats.

[Evil-Bob]

Some of the parts probably aren't genuine. The car has been painted at least two times in the past.
The guy I'm bying it from didn't recall it beeing any floormats in it when he started taking it apart. And the steeringwheel-rim(?) is gone.
I should have taken more pics when I had the chance, but I was to busy locating all rust and stuff like that.
Until I pick up the car, I just have the papers.

But if it is a GT/J, we'll find out

[Evil-Bob]

What's up with the #79 cars that weren't GT/J's?
Was it just the european edition?

[pecje]

If you can read and understand German see here: Splendid Parts - GT/J ! SPEZIAL !
If your color combination has 451 as second number together with the 79xxx, it's a GT/J.

[Evil-Bob]

Just came home with the car, and it has 451 as the second number in the color combination

[Sparky73]

Sounds like you got yourself a GT/J. Not sure if this means a whole lot since many parts have already been changed over, but it is still a little more rare! Any pictures? We'd love to see them!

[Evil-Bob]

Originally Posted by Sparky73 Sounds like you got yourself a GT/J. Not sure if this means a whole lot since many parts have already been changed over, but it is still a little more rare! Any pictures? We'd love to see them!

Just that it's a bit rarer is always fun
I'll post some pictures someday soon.

One more thing: the back-panel (where the lights are), is fiberglass on mine, but isn't this supposed to be metal?

[pecje]

Originally Posted by Evil-Bob One more thing: the back-panel (where the lights are), is fiberglass on mine, but isn't this supposed to be metal?

Nice you've got yourself a real GT/J
But you are right, the backpanel should be made of metal even on a GT/J. Somebody has changed that in the past. The main problem with GT/J's is that most of them have been changed into "normal" GT's. 20 years ago nobody wanted to have a GT/J, now they are hot again, but hard to find, especially in their original state.

[Evil-Bob]

Photos (if I did this the right way now :P)

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Needs a bit of work yes ...

[Sparky73]

Looks like a sweet project! I see the front on rear bumpers were/are black so it is somewhat original. Original gas cap, that is worth a decent chunk of change.. depending on the condition. Also.. do I see 73' rims?

[pecje]

Originally Posted by Sparky73 Looks like a sweet project! I see the front on rear bumpers were/are black so it is somewhat original. Original gas cap, that is worth a decent chunk of change.. depending on the condition. Also.. do I see 73' rims?

The bumpers are supposed to be black because it's a GT/J. The gas-cap however isn't original and should also be black and not lockable.

I hope the inside is also still original and that it wasn't changed into a normal GT interior. Which means: rubber floor mats, blind instruments etc.

The black stripes with GT/J on the sides are also missing. Does this mean that the car has been repainted?

Evil-Bob: Nice car by the way, try to get it back in it's original state

[Evil-Bob]

It's been repainted at least twice, it's been red flake some time and I think I saw some green there.
The rubber floor mats are long gone and replaced with homemade ones, there's a clock in the dash and the doorpanels have seen better days. There are probably other things missing/replaced also.

I'm not planning on a totally original car, but I want the interior and other GT/J-specific things to be as they're supposed to.
I'll have some time collecting parts while repairing the body.

The rims in the picture probably are S/R-rims?

[hallgeir]

Originally Posted by Evil-Bob The rims in the picture probably are S/R-rims?

These rims were used on the -73 model, as far as I know. The same style was also used on the Manta/Ascona, but they had a different offset, so the tracking would be too narrow if they were used on the GT, if I remember correctly.