Opel GT Hybrid

heimue · 06-01-2005

Look here: http://hybridcars.com/history.html and scroll down about 2/3 of the page, to the year 1979.
Does anybody know something about that car or owner?

Dieter

guyopel · 06-01-2005

Not of that car but have seen it , see 1969 opel kadett hybrid post
a company sold kits to change cars over to jet starter motors..

Thom71GT · 06-01-2005

I don't know a thing about it, but honestly.... Don't know if youd be tearing up the strip or impressing the ladies with a 6hp motor. vroom vroom NOT

West Coast GT · 06-01-2005

God help me if I ever put a 6hp lawn mower engine in my GT (even if it gets 83 mpg). Just kill me and hide me in a shallow unmarked grave. Send a note to my son asking him to hide any evidence of my folly.

GoinManta · 06-01-2005

Electric motors may not have HP, but they have Torque. So you have to understand your not limited to the 6HP, with full batterys your HP is determined by the electric motor.

The 1.1l and 72-73 models had less than 50 hp at the wheels. Admittedly the weak 1.9L cars had more torque than the 1.1L but you get the idea. Not only that, the amount of HP to keep a car moving is much less than that to get it started from a full stop.

Being the GT is so aerodynamic, the chances it has a really low requirement for sustaining 55 MPH. If memory serves, a 400 AMP motor is about 50 HP and a good bit of torque. So performance may not be as bad as you think.

Charles

baz · 06-01-2005

thing to work on is the electric motor ,the 6 hp motor is just to charge the batteries
i remember a few years ago a company here making a kitcar called the nova (it was sold in the states under another name) , VW beetle based and all the roof lifted up to get in and out
but 1 plan for it was to take out the flat 4 and mount an electric motor (dont know he size ) with a 35 cc motor from a weed wacker to run the charger
it did 0-60 in 6 sec and top speed was 130 mph and 3 fig milage if treated nice
these are speeds we spend a lot of money to get to and on a "6 hp motor "
i for 1 would not knock them

Travis · 06-01-2005

Originally Posted by GoinManta

If memory serves, a 400 AMP motor is about 50 HP

HP can't be determined with only an amerage rating. However, a quick search with google reveales the Mother Earth News car was a 36 volt system. This means 14400 watts or 19.3 HP

-Travis

GoinManta · 06-01-2005

How did I know our resident electrical engineer would bust me on that

I based it on a HVAC pump motor.. that has to have a 400 amp breaker.. tends to be 400 AMPs....

Charles

duaneb · 06-02-2005

If memory serves me right(from my long ago Navy training) the tourque of a series wound DC motor is almost unlimited. Main limations are amount of current available and internal and external resistance, also RPM is only limited by load on the output shaft and the design limitations of the motor itself-ie how well the armature windings are contained in the armature.

I was one of the people that purchased the Mother Earth News plans for converting the GT to gas electric (never did the change) enjoyed the GT to much as it was to mess with it. I believe the jet starter moters were rated at 100 HP max. That would give you real good acceleration and the small gas engine would supply enough current at crusing speed to keep the batteries charged.
Feel free to correct me if Im wrong guys, Its been a long time since Ive played with high current DC. 1969 to be exact

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heimue "The Jägermeister" Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newnan, GA - greater ATL area Posts: 1,199 Classified Rating: 0% (0)	Opel GT Hybrid Look here: http://hybridcars.com/history.html and scroll down about 2/3 of the page, to the year 1979. Does anybody know something about that car or owner? Dieter

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guyopel Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Duluth,Ga. Posts: 527 Classified Rating: 100% (1)	Not of that car but have seen it , see 1969 opel kadett hybrid post a company sold kits to change cars over to jet starter motors..

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Thom71GT Life Long Opeler Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Metro Atlanta - Cumming, GA Posts: 667 Classified Rating: 0% (0)	I don't know a thing about it, but honestly.... Don't know if youd be tearing up the strip or impressing the ladies with a 6hp motor. vroom vroom NOT

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West Coast GT Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 841 Classified Rating: 0% (0)	God help me if I ever put a 6hp lawn mower engine in my GT (even if it gets 83 mpg). Just kill me and hide me in a shallow unmarked grave. Send a note to my son asking him to hide any evidence of my folly.

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GoinManta Opelitis since 1984 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 1,930 Classified Rating: 0% (0)	Electric motors may not have HP, but they have Torque. So you have to understand your not limited to the 6HP, with full batterys your HP is determined by the electric motor. The 1.1l and 72-73 models had less than 50 hp at the wheels. Admittedly the weak 1.9L cars had more torque than the 1.1L but you get the idea. Not only that, the amount of HP to keep a car moving is much less than that to get it started from a full stop. Being the GT is so aerodynamic, the chances it has a really low requirement for sustaining 55 MPH. If memory serves, a 400 AMP motor is about 50 HP and a good bit of torque. So performance may not be as bad as you think. Charles

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baz opel free after 25 years Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: sunderland england Posts: 4,711 Classified Rating: 0% (0)	thing to work on is the electric motor ,the 6 hp motor is just to charge the batteries i remember a few years ago a company here making a kitcar called the nova (it was sold in the states under another name) , VW beetle based and all the roof lifted up to get in and out but 1 plan for it was to take out the flat 4 and mount an electric motor (dont know he size ) with a 35 cc motor from a weed wacker to run the charger it did 0-60 in 6 sec and top speed was 130 mph and 3 fig milage if treated nice these are speeds we spend a lot of money to get to and on a "6 hp motor " i for 1 would not knock them

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GoinManta Opelitis since 1984 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 1,930 Classified Rating: 0% (0)	How did I know our resident electrical engineer would bust me on that I based it on a HVAC pump motor.. that has to have a 400 amp breaker.. tends to be 400 AMPs.... Charles

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duaneb Opeler Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: oregon Posts: 97 Classified Rating: 0% (0)	If memory serves me right(from my long ago Navy training) the tourque of a series wound DC motor is almost unlimited. Main limations are amount of current available and internal and external resistance, also RPM is only limited by load on the output shaft and the design limitations of the motor itself-ie how well the armature windings are contained in the armature. I was one of the people that purchased the Mother Earth News plans for converting the GT to gas electric (never did the change) enjoyed the GT to much as it was to mess with it. I believe the jet starter moters were rated at 100 HP max. That would give you real good acceleration and the small gas engine would supply enough current at crusing speed to keep the batteries charged. Feel free to correct me if Im wrong guys, Its been a long time since Ive played with high current DC. 1969 to be exact

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