68 rallye

[officertyo]

look what i found on ebay under gmc. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ayphotohosting

[soybean]

It was up on Ebay a month or so ago and I got my son to check it out and got some pictures. One of our Club members (Roy Bell) was interested in it, and I got my only mechanically inclined son, who goes to college near there, to check it out. He saw it and called me and I listened to it run. He said it would take a lot of work to get it back in shape. It came from St Marys Ga. He is taking Automotive classes and said it would be a total restoration. Out of 3 sons, this is the only one who really knows cars, and I trust his judgement. So... If someone is willing to put in a lot of time and effort, it might be worth it. Hth, Jarrell

[opelnut10]

The 68 is the first year of 68, 69 &70, the front fenders are welded to the unibody. They can be exchanged but require grinding the welds and rewelding the new fenders. If it is a 68 it could also be a 1.1, 1.5 liter or a 1.9 liter, if it is a 1.5, it is so slow it is leisurely, but the head is a wanted item to bolt onto a low-compression engine to raise the compression ratio. I would look very closely at the vinyl top as there is likely a lot of rust under it. A car worth restoring if you are into Kadetts, but not for a novice.

[BQS4]

I think that since it has a "salvage" title, that some people get turned off by it, as some states won't recognize those kinds of titles for street vehicles.

[tekenaar]

Originally Posted by opelnut10 The 68 is the first year of 68, 69 &70, the front fenders are welded to the unibody. They can be exchanged but require grinding the welds and rewelding the new fenders. If it is a 68 it could also be a 1.1, 1.5 liter or a 1.9 liter, if it is a 1.5 it is so slow it is leisurely, but the head is a wanted item to bolt on a low-compression engine and raise the compression ratio. I would look very closely at the vinyl top as there is likely a lot of rust under it. A car worth restoring if you are into Kadetts, but not for a novice.

That's not what I remembered, so I just went out to look at my '69 LS and verified it . . . the fenders are bolted (actually metal screws and clips) to the inner fenders at the hood's edges and underneath at the front of the rocker panels. Can't imagine it's different for the '68, but they may have changed it for the '70 3X (Kadett) models.

Overall this is a very good candidate for restoration, especially since all the Rallye pieces are there! Agree, not for novice, but rust looks to be mostly 'surface' type . . . other than what's under the vinyl. OOC, is engine a 1.9 or 1.1 (only engines offered in Rallyes)?

[Opelkurt]

1968 and earlier Kadetts had welded-on front fenders. Went to bolt-on in 1969.

-Kurt

[tekenaar]

Originally Posted by Opelkurt 1968 and earlier Kadetts had welded-on front fenders. Went to bolt-on in 1969. -Kurt

OK, other way around then . . . '64-'68 - welded fenders, '69-on - bolt-on. Thanks.

[opelnut10]

Originally Posted by tekenaar That's not what I remembered, so I just went out to look at my '69 LS and verified it . . . the fenders are bolted (actually metal screws and clips) to the inner fenders at the hood's edges and underneath at the front of the rocker panels. Can't imagine it's different for the '68, but they may have changed it for the '70 3X (Kadett) models. Overall this is a very good candidate for restoration, especially since all the Rallye pieces are there! Agree, not for novice, but rust looks to be mostly 'surface' type . . . other than what's under the vinyl. OOC, is engine a 1.9 or 1.1 (only engines offered in Rallyes)?

True your 69 has bolt on fenders, but 68 is welded and they did make a 1500 Rallye, rare but avalible. The 1.1SR was the standard engine and the 1.5 and 1.9 was an option. When most people opted for the larger engine they picked the 1.9. The 1.5 was only avalible one year (1968) and the fenders were only welded on one year (1968).

[soybean]

Originally Posted by tekenaar Overall this is a very good candidate for restoration, especially since all the Rallye pieces are there! Agree, not for novice, but rust looks to be mostly 'surface' type . . . other than what's under the vinyl. OOC, is engine a 1.9 or 1.1 (only engines offered in Rallyes)?

My son checked out the floorboards etc and they are rotted through. I have some pictures somewhere that were taken. It is a 1.9 engine. If not maybe Roy Bell still has the ones that were sent to him. From what my son said, this is a "Donor" car. This is one of my sons that grew up with my 74 Rallye, so he does know a little about Opels. Helped me pull many an engine and we'd swap rear ends for the Fla trip twice a year.
JM2CW. Jarrell

[Ooooner]

If I can find the pictures, I will post them this evening. It may be a car for restoration but it will take a lot of $$$$ and hard work to get it right.

[opelnut10]

Originally Posted by Ooooner If I can find the pictures, I will post them this evening. It may be a car for restoration but it will take a lot of $$$$ and hard work to get it right.

If it can be had cheap enough, even if it is a donor it has parts that are of value. Rear end will bolt under a GT and has a 3:67 gear and factory sway bar. Take the two plugs out of the bolt holes on a GT and it will bolt right up to the floor. It has a set of flattop pistons, forged rods and crank. Never crush an Opel, one man's junk is another man's "good used parts". Radio is the same, brakes and suspension parts will also work, caliper lines are different but can be used. Transmission is the same as GT just change the stick tower on the tailshaft and use the GT stick.

[tekenaar]

Originally Posted by tekenaar That's not what I remembered, so I just went out to look at . . . 3X (Kadett) models. Overall this is a very good candidate for restoration, especially since all the Rallye pieces are there! Agree, not for novice, but rust looks to be mostly 'surface' type . . . other than what's under the vinyl. OOC, is engine a 1.9 or 1.1 (only engines offered in Rallyes)?

Just to elaborate a bit about the interior "Rallye" pieces: steering wheel (larger than GT), Tach, Rallye gauges, windshield washer foot pump and single wipe assy (same as GT), glove box door, relay for Rallye lights (maybe underhood). Exterior pieces are several Rallye badges, Rallye (fog) lights/brackets and the already mentioned 3.67 rear end with sway bar.

Originally Posted by opelnut10 True your 69 has bolt on fenders, but 68 is welded and they did make a 1500 Rallye, rare but available.

Shows even an old goat can learn something new. Went back to my fairly extensive Opel library for some further research, so here's the '68 model engine usage scoop, staight out of the 1968 Kadett Service Manual in the "Group 60 - Engine Mechanical" section:

Originally Posted by page 60-4, Engine Usage The 1.1 liter engine is supplied as standard equipment on all models except the Rallye, Model 92.

Originally Posted by page 60-19, Engine Usage The 1.5 liter engine is standard equipment on the Rallye Kadett, model 92 and optional on all other models. The 1.9 liter engine is optional equipment on all 1968 models.

. . . based on this, I've also modified my referenced "68-71 Opel Models" list accordingly.

[opelspyder]

There is also another Kadett Ralley in NC that is the greenish gold color. Selling by Sixpack77. He says it has the rallye emblems, but it doesn't have the rallye guages and the glove box door says kadett L. Didn't find out about the fog lights though
Keith