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Old 06-24-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Unanswered: Just purchased a 1967.5 Rallye!!!

Hello all-

I am new to this forum and new to Opels as well. Not new to sports car though.

Anyhow I found this car in a neigboor's back yard and bought it for a song. It has been sitting for nearly 20 years but with a little work, fired up! I will be working to get it going over the next few weeks and I hope I can get some help here.

First question: I need a windshield gasket. Does anyone know where to get one for a good price?

Second question: Will GT brake hoses work on this car? The originals are clogged.

Third: Are decent shocks still available for this car?

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Some one help me out here. Isn't the GT front suspension the same as the Kadette? If so does the shocks and brakes match? Does it depend on the engine? What engine do you have?

Anyway, welcome to our group. I owned a 69 Rallye Kadette in the early 70s. Fun car.

Use the search feature on this site to read just about anything you might have a question about. Look under suspension and then under Kadette. Take lots of pictures to share with us on your progress.

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Welcome!

Nice little "Kieman" Coupe' - I see it has the 'gills' behind the rear side windows .... and still has its Rallye Long Range driving lights too.

KillerTexasGT - Rodney Killingsworth from RodsOpelWerks in Texas got me screen rubbers for my Red & Black 1967 Rallye Kadett.

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The front suspensions are similar to GT ones - more similar to 1.1L GTs ... but not quite the same. There are several different lower ball joints with differing tapers and sizes plus the steering arms and ball joints for the rack also vary.
They were continuously up-graded from 1964 through to the GT - getting stronger as time went by. Even the disc brake calipers are different as are the spindles they bolt to. You can 'up-grade' to GT parts as the GT parts from the A-arms on out do bolt on as a complete unit. Cannot mix and match though - GT spindles and calipers are bigger where the caliper bolts on.

Love to know the VIN and engine number for your Kadett Rallye - mine is in another post.

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Yours is a lot nicer than mine!!

The VIN# on my car is 321231900

It has an 1.1 SR engine with the dual carbs. The motor starts and runs but I need an upper radiator hose before I can drive it.

Also, I was just working on the car today and am having trouble getting the headlights to work. Is there a relay? Is there a place I can get a wiring diagram?

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try Opel GT Source --- Welcome for opel part
KYB makes shocks for the kadett. find part#
at Welcome To K Y B and google it to find the parts.
advanceauto or parts america has them.

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Exclamation 1966-67 Opel Kadett "B" Factory Service Manual

Originally Posted by avendlerdp View Post
Yours is a lot nicer than mine!!

The VIN# on my car is 321231900 - LOOK HERE!

It has an 1.1 SR engine with the dual carbs. The motor starts and runs but I need an upper radiator hose before I can drive it.

Also, I was just working on the car today and am having trouble getting the headlights to work. Is there a relay? Is there a place I can get a wiring diagram?

-Alex
The best place to find an accurate wiring diagram is in one of the "1966-67 Opel Kadett "B" Factory Service Manuals", light blue cover, which appear on e-Bay every so often. This would give you info on everything else too, and all in one place.
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I just bought a 68 Kadett Rallye with a 1.9, Rallye Gold with the original driving lights,and gauge cluster virtually no body rust, but the trunk floor is in pretty bad shape. The car has sat since 1981 with new tires on it at that time, but well gone now. I have not had the chance to crank her up yet due to chasing after 2 GT's last weekend. I also have a 68 Kadett two door sedan with a 1.1L with heater only no dealer options, and have a 71 Kadett two door with a 1.1 L SR engine with a few dealer options and drum brakes. Both are Model 91's. post some pictures here maybe tonight.
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Here are a couple of pictures of my 68 Rallye vin # 921395252, one of my 68 white sedan on the lift vin # 311362710, and that of my 71 Kadett vin # 319386716. I also have a 64 Kadett L parts car which GTJim received the wing window frame out of for his Kieman. And then there is the 68 Kadett Caravan parts car with not much of it left after Stephen got some parts off it and then some where donated towards restoring Andreas Passens 67 Kadett. All are 1.1 L with the exception to the Rallye.
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Your '67 (just like mine) with the 1.1L motor would use the same spindles, hubs, rotors and bearings as any disc brake Kadett B from 65 or so through 71, which is all the same parts as the GT.

The calipers are different, as they have a smaller bore, but look and attach exactly the same as the ones used on the 1.9L Kadetts and the GTs. You can install a matched pair of the 1.9L calipers from any of the GTs or the 1.9 Kadetts or even the Mantas on the car, but the brake pedal will move further down before actuating them and it might do some wierd things to your front/rear brake bias.

Brake hoses are the same as any disc brake Kadett or any GT.

Opels Unlimited has front windshield seals as well, if you can get ahold of them.

Any shock that will fit a GT shoud fit your car, but with the 1.1L motor you actually have a bit softer springs than most of the GTs and other Kadetts, and your car weighs less. This might mean that a gas-charged shock will cause a noticible increase in front ride height, and will for sure cause a change in handling that will be more pronounced than on the GTs. That means if someone says "these shocks are really stiff" about a particular type of shock installed on a GT it will seem really, really stiff on the Kadett. Just something to keep in the back of your mind.

FWIW, I have a '67 Kadett 1.1L Coupe myself, along with a '69 1.1L Fastback, '70 1.1L sedan, '70 1.9L Wagon, '71 1.9L 4-door, and a gaggle of non-Kadett Opels as well. The coupe is a great body style.
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Thanks for the great info. Does anyone know what size the bore of the master cylinder is? Is it the same as for a GT?

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Your '67 (just like mine) with the 1.1L motor would use the same spindles, hubs, rotors and bearings as any disc brake Kadett B from 65 or so through 71, which is all the same parts as the GT.

The calipers are different, as they have a smaller bore, but look and attach exactly the same as the ones used on the 1.9L Kadetts and the GTs. You can install a matched pair of the 1.9L calipers from any of the GTs or the 1.9 Kadetts or even the Mantas on the car, but the brake pedal will move further down before actuating them and it might do some wierd things to your front/rear brake bias.

Brake hoses are the same as any disc brake Kadett or any GT.
Nope! Early 1.1L calipers have a smaller centre to centre distance between the mounting bolt holes as well a smaller bore. Thus the spindle is different too - with the mounting bolt holes at the smaller distance.

Tried to fit 1972 1.9L GT calipers to my 1967 1.1L Kadett Rallye and found this to be the case. Hubs and discs are interchangable but calipers are NOT.
This may be different for 1.9L Kadetts & GT swaps - I would only assume that they use the larger calipers.

The complete A-arms/spindle/caliper set is interchangable as a unit though - just cannot mix and match individual components ..... between 1.1L and 1.9L cars, I have found.
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