1967 opel kadette ralley wagon?

[lunacollective]

I just purchased an opel 2 door wagon I believe it to be a 66. VIN # 391062088. 1.0L engine 4 speed manual, front power disc brakes. i am looking to make it a rat rod or poss sell it and build that rambler thats been in my brothers yard for years. any help would be great. especially with IDing the car.. Dale

[tomking]

When I bought my 67 wagon, Dennis at OGTS said the early 67s and 66s had rear leaf springs and drum front brakes. I would assume your engine is really a 1.1 liter rather than 1.0. And perhaps someone retrofitted front discs. What kind of springs do you have in the rear?

[tekenaar]

Originally Posted by lunacollective I just purchased an opel 2 door wagon I believe it to be a 66. VIN # 391062088. 1.0L engine 4 speed manual, front power disc brakes. i am looking to make it a rat rod or poss sell it and build that rambler thats been in my brothers yard for years. any help would be great. especially with IDing the car.. Dale Originally Posted by tomking When I bought my 67 wagon, Dennis at OGTS said the early 67s and 66s had rear leaf springs and drum front brakes. I would assume your engine is really a 1.1 liter rather than 1.0. And perhaps someone retrofitted front discs. What kind of springs do you have in the rear?

Tom is correct . . . except regarding front discs. The 1966 model was the Kadett's first "B" model chassis and offered two 1.1 engines, the 11 and 11S - both are single Solex one-barrel carb engines. I have a 'tan cover', single-year 1966 Opel Kadett FSM which already includes coverage of front disc brakes available with the 11S engine from the start.

[lunacollective]

I just purchased a 1967 opel wagon 2 door with the rear windows. it is sporting the 1.1 with the 4 speed p/w disc brakes on the front fender it also has rallye logos. Did they make a rallye wagon or was this an add on? the vin is 391062088. Any help would be great.

[lunacollective]

it is in fact a 67 with a 1.1 now i am just wondering if the rallye logos on the front fenders are real or just an add on.

[RallyBob]

No 'rallye' wagon versions were made. Sounds like wishful thinking on the PO's part!

Bob

[tekenaar]

Originally Posted by lunacollective it is in fact a 67 with a 1.1 now i am just wondering if the rallye logos on the front fenders are real or just an add on.

"Year-Model" Link in post #3 answers this . . .

[GTJIM]

The 1967 Kadett Rallye here has an low engine number - 11SR 00034xx
and a chassis number well below the '67 1/2 start number - 32 10906xx
('67 1/2 start number is 32 1239547)

So I believe that twin carb 11SR motors were fitted to leaf rear spring Model 32 Kadetts in early 1967 or even late 1966 when the first Kadett Rallyes appeared. Mine certainly has all the "Rallye" fitments including the long range driving lights, Rallye badges on the dash and front guards and the extra gauges on a panel that reaches from the dash down to the driveshaft tunnel. Plus the black "Rallye" paint stripes.

I was told by the previous owner of mine that the first 5,000 were released to the public as Rally cars - certainly mine was imported here to participate in local "international" Rallys. I still have the Left-Hand-Drive exemption papers that were required to allow it to be driven on the public roads that Rallys were held on.

Have a sneaking suspicion that some later USA Kadett Wagons which where fitted with 11SR motors as options may well have had the "Rallye" pack fitted too - maybe even by the individual Sales outlets.

[tekenaar]

Originally Posted by GTJIM The 1967 Kadett Rallye here has an low engine number - 11SR 00034xx and a chassis number well below the '67 1/2 start number - 32 10906xx ('67 1/2 start number is 32 1239547) So I believe that twin carb 11SR motors were fitted to leaf rear spring Model 32 Kadetts in early 1967 or even late 1966 when the first Kadett Rallyes appeared. Mine certainly has all the "Rallye" fitments including the long range driving lights, Rallye badges on the dash and front guards and the extra gauges on a panel that reaches from the dash down to the driveshaft tunnel. Plus the black "Rallye" paint stripes. I was told by the previous owner of mine that the first 5,000 were released to the public as Rally cars - certainly mine was imported here to participate in local "international" Rallys. I still have the Left-Hand-Drive exemption papers that were required to allow it to be driven on the public roads that Rallys were held on. Have a sneaking suspicion that some later USA Kadett Wagons which where fitted with 11SR motors as options may well have had the "Rallye" pack fitted too - maybe even by the individual Sales (dealer) outlets.

Later year wagons perhaps, but, here in the US, the 11SR (9.2CR) engine was only offered in the 1969 wagon, actually required for the 1.1 A/T cars, also only offered that year!

It should also be noted that the 1966-67 11 and 11S engines had CRs of 7.8 and 8.8 respectively, while all the '68-up 11x and '67½-up 11SR engines had 8.2 and 9.2 CRs. Furthermore, the 11SR engines were only offered during '67½, '69 and '70!

As far as "dealer" installation of Rallye options on a '69 11SR wagon go, I seriously doubt it as the Rallye wiring loom is different from the 'standard' with red/white wiring from the starter's 'Battery' connection to the 'source' side of the ammeter required, something only Rallyes had from the factory . . . this is NOT!! simple to duplicate, trust me!

Anyway, 'dealer' alteration of primary 'factory' wiring on a brand new car would've most certainly voided any Opel warranty.

[lunacollective]

I really appreciate all of the help and attention this post has received. My motor is the single carb and does not have a tach. speedo, clock and lights. I am convinced that the ralley logos are just logos installed on the front fender. Also wondering if anyone has pix of a panel wagon or a wagon with out the rear windows. I know they made them but I would like to see what they looked like before I decide weather or not to modify this wagon or keep it mostly stock. Thanx Again Dale

[OpelGT-de]

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