Kadett 1,1 to 1,9

[rjt0012]

Hello !!
I am starting modification in my Kadett 1,1 ´73 manufactured in Uruguay, South America.
My idea is to use this car in regularity rallys.
I am planning remove 1,1 engine my Kadett and to install 2,0 liters engine from Rekord E. I need your help, because in Uruguay there aren´t Kadett 1900Rallye. Need modification of the installation of the radiator and cut of the front of the car, some photos, drawings or details of modification.
I am sending some pctures like reference.
Sorry my poor english and thank you.

[BQS4]

You're also going to have to modify the transmission tunnel. Going from a 1.1 to a 1.9, the transmission tunnels are different.

[rjt0012]

Yes I know.
I think to copy the Rekord 1900 "D" transmission tunnel.
Do you think, this is right?

For Rear axle, I think put 3,67 from Rekord "D", too.

[BQS4]

Originally Posted by rjt0012 Yes I know. I think to copy the Rekord 1900 "D" transmission tunnel. Do you think, this is right? For Rear axle, I think put 3,67 from Rekord "D", too.

I can not say about the Rekord, as I have never seen one personally, but, as for the axle, I would think that the Rekord's would be too wide for a Kadett, as the Rekord is a bigger car. Now, you can use a GT 1.9 axle, and put a set of 3.67 gears in it. Someone can correct me on this, but, I think it's a possibility.

[heimue]

The Rekord D's rear axle is 126 mm wider than a Kadett B 1.0/1.1/1.2 rear axle (1400 mm vs. 1274 mm). Your tires will be sticking out 63 mm (2 1/2") further each side.

Dieter

[tekenaar]

Originally Posted by BQS4 You're also going to have to modify the transmission tunnel. Going from a 1.1 to a 1.9, the transmission tunnels are different.

. . . as well as the radiator brace! . . . look at both of your sample pics. That's my Kadett LS in the second pic, BTW . . . before changes to a 'sprint' Kadett!

[rjt0012]

Originally Posted by tekenaar . . . as well as the radiator brace! . . . look at both of your sample pics. That's my Kadett LS in the second pic, BTW . . . before changes to a 'sprint' Kadett!

I am interested in your "sprint" Kadett.....give me information, please.
I want to win against a lot of BMW 2002, with my Kadett 2,0L

[tekenaar]

Originally Posted by rjt0012 I am interested in your "Sprint" Kadett.....give me information, please. I want to win against a lot of BMW 2002, with my Kadett 2,0L

. . . all you want to know is here!

[Petri H]

Hi Ricardo, if you cannot find Kadett B CIH rear axle, you might want to look for Ascona A CIH, Manta A CIH or Kadett C CIH axles. From the width point of view, they are closer to Kadett axle than Rekord D axles. They are all bolt-on solutions to Kadett apart from the width difference.

[heimue]

Originally Posted by Petri H Hi Ricardo, if you cannot find Kadett B CIH rear axle, you might want to look for Ascona A CIH, Manta A CIH or Kadett C CIH axles. From the width point of view, they are closer to Kadett axle than Rekord D axles. They are all bolt-on solutions to Kadett apart from the width difference.

I would be careful with this advice. The shock mounts on the Ascona/Manta axles are different, and the mount for the panhard rod is in a different location.
You can use the Kadett C axle more easily, but the panhard rod still won't be a bolt-in.

It is doable with all axles, but you need an angle grinder and welder in all cases!

Dieter

[rjt0012]

Hello Petri
Here in my coutry the aren´t Ascona CIH (only Diesel), Manta A CIH or Kadett C (only brasilian Chevette). But I found Rekord Axle 3,67 (too much large) and other axle from Rekord 1,9 sation wagon 4,22 (too much close). I was study the axles and I think that we can cut and welder axle with differential 63 mm (2 1/2"), like heimue recommended.
I shoud modified the mount for the panhard rod.......I promise photos next
You sould wish luck me..... sorry my english

[Petri H]

Hi Ricardo, I do wish you good luck ;-)

If you have decided to use Rekord D axle and manipulate the Panhard, you might as well make an adjustable Panhard rod. That may prove to be useful when you will be lining up the axle later on to sit right in the middle.

[Beginner]

Originally Posted by rjt0012 Hello Petri Here in my coutry the aren´t Ascona CIH (only Diesel), Manta A CIH or Kadett C (only brasilian Chevette). But I found Rekord Axle 3,67 (too much large) and other axle from Rekord 1,9 sation wagon 4,22 (too much close). I was study the axles and I think that we can cut and welder axle with differential 63 mm (2 1/2"), like heimue recommended. I shoud modified the mount for the panhard rod.......I promise photos next You sould wish luck me..... sorry my english

Just to let you know(sorry for my somtimes bad english).....In my Rally coupe 1969 (LS) I used the original axle with the diff from manta -86....fits like a glove. There is also a quiet easy solution where you use the rear axle from a BMW E30 (split axle). Concerning the gearbox tunnel you can use the one from a automatic kadett B, they are a bit bigger but you still need to do some work to fit the getrag 240 for example. Nothing is impossible...just a question of time. You can mix the rear axle (org) with the new gearbox if you like but the rear breaks are not good enough, you will need the big drums. An other tip if you like to strengthen the front spring (also lower the car) is to find a ford mustang and take its spring, cut it and use it. I have changed my orig engine (1,9/90 hp carburetter engine) to an 2,2 inj engine with org 115 hp. I've worked with it for a while now and I my estimation is that the engine now give me about 150-160 hp and with 900 kg car....I have a lot of fun. There is no weight at all over the rear end so..... I have been past 200 km/h once but if I like to go there again I guess I need to work a bit more with the chassis. I also like to inform you about a cheaper solution to have the 1,2 engine to go a bit better.....use the weber 40/45 and you will gain about 70 hp out of that engine. Together with the orig. gearbox and rear axle you have a lot of fun.

Have fun, Beginner