Deep dish....

Aardvaark · 08-28-2008

After searching with no results, does anyone know of an aftermarket steering wheel with a deeper dish to push the rim out closer to the driver?
I modded my drivers seat for more travel and leg room, but now the ergonomics of the wheel could use help when the seat is much more then an inch back from the stock max position.
Thanks.

BQS4 · 08-28-2008

Mark;
It may not have to be the wheel itself, more length could be had from a wheel adaptor.

Aardvaark · 08-28-2008

Originally Posted by BQS4

Mark;
It may not have to be the wheel itself, more length could be had from a wheel adaptor.

Good point. If an adapter would help, I like the stock wheel otherwise.

Aardvaark · 08-28-2008

Wondering if any other car make uses the same hub as the Manta.
Or am I going to have to look for an old momo or some other?

BQS4 · 08-28-2008

Mark;
Not really, try here....
ALFA DIRECT INTERNATIONAL

4880 WEST RIDGE RD.

SPENCERPORT N.Y. USA 14559 phone-585-3525131 fax-585-3525131

BQS4 · 08-28-2008

This adaptor is set up with two different bolt patterns for a variety of aftermarket steering wheels.

BQS4 · 08-28-2008

In fact, here's an Ebay auction for one of their Opel adaptors:
eBay Motors: Volanti Luisi Steering Wheel Hub Adapter for Opel (item 300224883478 end time Sep-11-08 10:02:04 PDT)
I have two of these adaptors on two on my cars, and they work great.

Aardvaark · 08-28-2008

Thanks Gene. Exactly what I'm looking for!

BQS4 · 08-28-2008

This adaptor is set up for MOMO, PERSONAL, Nardi,and RAID steering wheels. If you want a inexpensive, but, nice MOMO steering wheel, Ebay MOMO for their "marine" applications. This is basically the same as the auto wheels, but, they have better weather handling abilities than the auto ones, plus they're cheaper....

Aardvaark · 08-28-2008

Originally Posted by BQS4

This adaptor is set up for MOMO, PERSONAL, Nardi,and RAID steering wheels. If you want a inexpensive, but, nice MOMO steering wheel, Ebay MOMO for their "marine" applications. This is basically the same as the auto wheels, but, they have better weather handling abilities than the auto ones, plus they're cheaper....

You've been down this road before. Your anticipating my questions.

Grant sells a Grant wheel to Momo adapter. So it looks like I may be able to use the Luisi 5203 adapter and a 5 hole Grant wheel with Grants Momo/Grant adapter?
Unfortunatly I have Momo/Nardi tastes but a Grant budget.

BQS4 · 08-29-2008

Mark;
Yes, I went through this for about a year or so, found a MOMO leather, and two PERSONAL/Nardi wood wheels, each less than $50. No, they weren't trashed, maybe a few scuff/scratch marks, but, still looking excellent. The key is to being patient and diligent.

Aardvaark · 08-29-2008

Gene. Thanks for your advise. This will be an over the winter project so I can spend some time looking for a used wheel like you did. The wheel reach
with the modded seat travel isn't terrible, just that it could be better.
Btw. Here is the Momo to 5 hole grant adapter I referred to. Any comments?
http://www.grantproducts.com/pc-319-...ter-plate.aspx

neuropel · 08-29-2008

Mark,

I installed a Momo adapter and Momo Corse steering wheel to my Manta after I installed seats from an Acura Legend. The adapter will bring the wheel out further, plus the smaller diameter steering wheel gives a much better feel as well. As Gene pointed out, keep a close eye on Ebay as used wheels from Momo, etc. go up for sale quite often. THE biggest issue to think about ahead of time is getting an appropriate puller to pull your stock wheel and hub from the column, especially if it's never been off before.

Todd

BQS4 · 08-29-2008

Just to add to what Todd said, with the adaptor, or rather both adaptors, you could probably get by with almost a flat steering wheel, but, most are dished, to some extent. The only thing I dislike about Grant wheels is the fact they have a TOTALLY different mount pattern than the rest. Grant uses 5 bolts where as most other wheel makers use 6 , they just vary the pattern slightly. Also, Grant, at least to me, doesn't offer as many styles/colors as the rest do, and they "look" cheaper, but, this is just my opinion

Aardvaark · 08-29-2008

I've been cruising ebay this morning and can see your point about going for a momo or other then grant. I do think the grant could be redrilled ,however, for the 6 bolt momo pattern. As far as the puller is concerned, I have one for three bolt holes and can fab up something as needed. I always try to
fab tools I need if possible, particularly the ones I'm only going to use once, or twice.
Todd. Glad to hear the smaller dia wheel works well. I have been looking for 15" and 14", but do you think 13" would be too small?
Thanks

BQS4 · 08-29-2008

Mark;
All mine are 13" or slightly bigger. But, no 14" and over

Aardvaark · 08-29-2008

Originally Posted by BQS4

Mark;
All mine are 13" or slightly bigger. But, no 14" and over

Good to know. Thanks again.

Aardvaark · 08-29-2008

Hope it will be okay to check out you wheel at Charlotte, Gene.

BQS4 · 08-29-2008

You're more than welcome to look all you want Mark.

The Sportwagon I'll be driving has a MOMO adaptor with a RAID steering wheel. The steering wheel is from Germany.

08-28-2008	#1 (permalink)
Aardvaark UFO pel abductee. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 2,242 Real Name: Mark Paar (not Parr) Provided Answers: 5	Unanswered: Deep dish.... After searching with no results, does anyone know of an aftermarket steering wheel with a deeper dish to push the rim out closer to the driver? I modded my drivers seat for more travel and leg room, but now the ergonomics of the wheel could use help when the seat is much more then an inch back from the stock max position. Thanks. __________________ -Mark '75 Manta Direct link to my album of Opel related parts catalogs and magazine articles for reference: http://www.opelgt.com/photopost/show...ser/23031/sl/a

08-28-2008	#2 (permalink)
BQS4 Southern Red Neck Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Snellville, GA Posts: 6,028 Real Name: Gene Provided Answers: 12	Mark; It may not have to be the wheel itself, more length could be had from a wheel adaptor. __________________ "Yes, I do have a rifle rack in my Sportwagon"

08-28-2008	#4 (permalink)
Aardvaark UFO pel abductee. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 2,242 Real Name: Mark Paar (not Parr) Provided Answers: 5	Wondering if any other car make uses the same hub as the Manta. Or am I going to have to look for an old momo or some other? __________________ -Mark '75 Manta Direct link to my album of Opel related parts catalogs and magazine articles for reference: http://www.opelgt.com/photopost/show...ser/23031/sl/a

08-28-2008	#5 (permalink)
BQS4 Southern Red Neck Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Snellville, GA Posts: 6,028 Real Name: Gene Provided Answers: 12	Mark; Not really, try here.... ALFA DIRECT INTERNATIONAL 4880 WEST RIDGE RD. SPENCERPORT N.Y. USA 14559 phone-585-3525131 fax-585-3525131 __________________ "Yes, I do have a rifle rack in my Sportwagon"

08-28-2008	#6 (permalink)
BQS4 Southern Red Neck Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Snellville, GA Posts: 6,028 Real Name: Gene Provided Answers: 12	This adaptor is set up with two different bolt patterns for a variety of aftermarket steering wheels. __________________ "Yes, I do have a rifle rack in my Sportwagon"

08-28-2008	#7 (permalink)
BQS4 Southern Red Neck Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Snellville, GA Posts: 6,028 Real Name: Gene Provided Answers: 12	In fact, here's an Ebay auction for one of their Opel adaptors: eBay Motors: Volanti Luisi Steering Wheel Hub Adapter for Opel (item 300224883478 end time Sep-11-08 10:02:04 PDT) I have two of these adaptors on two on my cars, and they work great. __________________ "Yes, I do have a rifle rack in my Sportwagon"

08-28-2008	#8 (permalink)
Aardvaark UFO pel abductee. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 2,242 Real Name: Mark Paar (not Parr) Provided Answers: 5	Thanks Gene. Exactly what I'm looking for! __________________ -Mark '75 Manta Direct link to my album of Opel related parts catalogs and magazine articles for reference: http://www.opelgt.com/photopost/show...ser/23031/sl/a

08-28-2008	#9 (permalink)
BQS4 Southern Red Neck Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Snellville, GA Posts: 6,028 Real Name: Gene Provided Answers: 12	This adaptor is set up for MOMO, PERSONAL, Nardi,and RAID steering wheels. If you want a inexpensive, but, nice MOMO steering wheel, Ebay MOMO for their "marine" applications. This is basically the same as the auto wheels, but, they have better weather handling abilities than the auto ones, plus they're cheaper.... __________________ "Yes, I do have a rifle rack in my Sportwagon"

08-29-2008	#11 (permalink)
BQS4 Southern Red Neck Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Snellville, GA Posts: 6,028 Real Name: Gene Provided Answers: 12	Mark; Yes, I went through this for about a year or so, found a MOMO leather, and two PERSONAL/Nardi wood wheels, each less than $50. No, they weren't trashed, maybe a few scuff/scratch marks, but, still looking excellent. The key is to being patient and diligent. __________________ "Yes, I do have a rifle rack in my Sportwagon"

08-29-2008	#12 (permalink)
Aardvaark UFO pel abductee. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 2,242 Real Name: Mark Paar (not Parr) Provided Answers: 5	Gene. Thanks for your advise. This will be an over the winter project so I can spend some time looking for a used wheel like you did. The wheel reach with the modded seat travel isn't terrible, just that it could be better. Btw. Here is the Momo to 5 hole grant adapter I referred to. Any comments? http://www.grantproducts.com/pc-319-...ter-plate.aspx __________________ -Mark '75 Manta Direct link to my album of Opel related parts catalogs and magazine articles for reference: http://www.opelgt.com/photopost/show...ser/23031/sl/a Last edited by Aardvaark; 08-29-2008 at 11:40 AM.

08-29-2008	#13 (permalink)
neuropel Rice Cooker Join Date: May 2002 Location: Spring Church, PA Posts: 1,787	Mark, I installed a Momo adapter and Momo Corse steering wheel to my Manta after I installed seats from an Acura Legend. The adapter will bring the wheel out further, plus the smaller diameter steering wheel gives a much better feel as well. As Gene pointed out, keep a close eye on Ebay as used wheels from Momo, etc. go up for sale quite often. THE biggest issue to think about ahead of time is getting an appropriate puller to pull your stock wheel and hub from the column, especially if it's never been off before. Todd __________________ "In the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." -Abraham Lincoln ________________ 1972 GT 2.4L 1974 Manta GT/E 2.2L 1973 Manta Rallye 2.5L

08-29-2008	#14 (permalink)
BQS4 Southern Red Neck Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Snellville, GA Posts: 6,028 Real Name: Gene Provided Answers: 12	Just to add to what Todd said, with the adaptor, or rather both adaptors, you could probably get by with almost a flat steering wheel, but, most are dished, to some extent. The only thing I dislike about Grant wheels is the fact they have a TOTALLY different mount pattern than the rest. Grant uses 5 bolts where as most other wheel makers use 6 , they just vary the pattern slightly. Also, Grant, at least to me, doesn't offer as many styles/colors as the rest do, and they "look" cheaper, but, this is just my opinion __________________ "Yes, I do have a rifle rack in my Sportwagon"

08-29-2008	#15 (permalink)
Aardvaark UFO pel abductee. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 2,242 Real Name: Mark Paar (not Parr) Provided Answers: 5	I've been cruising ebay this morning and can see your point about going for a momo or other then grant. I do think the grant could be redrilled ,however, for the 6 bolt momo pattern. As far as the puller is concerned, I have one for three bolt holes and can fab up something as needed. I always try to fab tools I need if possible, particularly the ones I'm only going to use once, or twice. Todd. Glad to hear the smaller dia wheel works well. I have been looking for 15" and 14", but do you think 13" would be too small? Thanks __________________ -Mark '75 Manta Direct link to my album of Opel related parts catalogs and magazine articles for reference: http://www.opelgt.com/photopost/show...ser/23031/sl/a Last edited by Aardvaark; 08-29-2008 at 01:22 PM.

08-29-2008	#16 (permalink)
BQS4 Southern Red Neck Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Snellville, GA Posts: 6,028 Real Name: Gene Provided Answers: 12	Mark; All mine are 13" or slightly bigger. But, no 14" and over __________________ "Yes, I do have a rifle rack in my Sportwagon"

08-29-2008	#18 (permalink)
Aardvaark UFO pel abductee. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 2,242 Real Name: Mark Paar (not Parr) Provided Answers: 5	Hope it will be okay to check out you wheel at Charlotte, Gene. __________________ -Mark '75 Manta Direct link to my album of Opel related parts catalogs and magazine articles for reference: http://www.opelgt.com/photopost/show...ser/23031/sl/a

08-29-2008	#19 (permalink)
BQS4 Southern Red Neck Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Snellville, GA Posts: 6,028 Real Name: Gene Provided Answers: 12	You're more than welcome to look all you want Mark. The Sportwagon I'll be driving has a MOMO adaptor with a RAID steering wheel. The steering wheel is from Germany. __________________ "Yes, I do have a rifle rack in my Sportwagon"

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