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    Interior Pictures

    Here are a few interior pictures before any work is to be done on it. A lot of mildew and a musty smell for being closed up for 16 years.
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    Engine Picture

    Here is a picture of the engine as it looked when the hood was opened for the first time in 16 years!
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    Even the interior looks pretty decent needing only spit and polish.
    Great find!
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    Update...

    Got the engine to run after 16 years! Believe it or not, once we changed the plugs, new points, rotor, distributor cap and condenser and primed the carburetor, it fired off the first time! Man I was happy! The automatic transmission, after adding transmission fluid, shifted great!

    About month ago, I squirted Marvel Mystery Oil into each cylinder through the spark plug holes. I let it sit until today, and that may have done the trick. It smoked for about 5 minutes but it cleared up. We did have to run a tube from a gas bottle. The gas pump didn't seem to be pumping but I'm figuring, after 16 years, the rubber diaphram inside the pump had dry rotted. So, a new pump will be ordered!

    Checked the cylinder compression and it was 125, 125, 130 and 130. I'll take that!

    We will start back to work on the body in the next few weeks... My goal is to get it to Carlisle but if not, the Opel Nationals in Charlotte in September.
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    Well, today, Terry and I cleaned the engine and bay area and although I will be pulling the engine to paint the engine bay later, it sure makes it look a lot better!

    We began to check why we weren't getting fuel from the gas tank. We had thought the fuel pump may have gone bad from sitting so long, and it may still be bad, but we looked at the gas tank and of course, the gas was like varnish and stinks like hell. We started to pull the tank out and a leak erupted from the side of the tank and sure enough, there is a hole from rust. We are taking the tank out, so we cut the rubber fuel line coming out of the tank and the line was completey closed off with "gunk"! Never seen that before....

    Hopefully, the tank is not too bad so we can fix it. Don't worry, the tank will be cleaned before Terry welds on it! If it can't be fixed, I may be in the market for a wagon fuel tank! 😃

    More later....😎
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    😥 We'll... I will be needing another fuel tank for the wagon. It was sooooo full of crud, it was unbelievable... Gene got in touch with me and informed me that an Ascona tank will work, too.

    Blew out the fuel line from where the old tank was to the fuel pump. Of course, I disconnected the line from the fuel pump. Ran the engine for 10 minutes from a can of gas at the rear.

    Checked the heater core and it's blowing heat and doesn't seem to be leaking.

    Did a lot of cleaning to the interior today, too.

    More later....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooooner View Post
    We'll... I will be needing another fuel tank for the wagon. It was sooooo full of crud, it was unbelievable... Gene got in touch with me and informed me that an Ascona tank will work, too.

    Blew out the fuel line from where the old tank was to the fuel pump. Of course, I disconnected the line from the fuel pump. Ran the engine for 10 minutes from a can of gas at the rear.

    Checked the heater core and it's blowing heat and doesn't seem to be leaking.

    Did a lot of cleaning to the interior today, too.

    More later....
    I'm sure you will find a tank but in the off chance you don't, there are a couple wagons in my area that I can point you to.
    In Oregon the gas tanks don't go bad. At least I've never seen a bad one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by First opel 1981 View Post
    I'm sure you will find a tank but in the off chance you don't, there are a couple wagons in my area that I can point you to.
    In Oregon the gas tanks don't go bad. At least I've never seen a bad one.
    Thanks! I may take you up on that if I can't locate one here in the Southeast. This wagon's life was in the mountains of North Carolina where they salt on the roads in the winter. The owner, who bought it new had it undercoated and I believe that is what saved it. Where the tank rusted through was on the upper back side where there was no undercoating on the tank.
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    I should have one also Roy. I can bring it to Carlisle if you can wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    I should have one also Roy. I can bring it to Carlisle if you can wait.
    Thanks Gary... I am hoping that I may can bring the wagon to Carlisle this year. If I don't have a tank by then, I'll take you up on that offer....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooooner View Post
    😥 We'll... I will be needing another fuel tank for the wagon. It was sooooo full of crud, it was unbelievable... Gene got in touch with me and informed me that an Ascona tank will work, too.
    A Manta tank will work also. A '75 tank from any fuel injected 50 series would be different, however.

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    Update!

    After a little rest with the wagon, I've started back on saving my 72 Wagon. The pictures below are from the interior. I removed the passenger seat and the front carpet. Man, that carpet stunk to high heaven! Musty and moldy... As you can see, the floorboard is almost perfect! No rust! I was going to put the sound deadening mat under the new carpet but I'm not too sure now after seeing the original stuff under the old carpet. I'll have to sniff it to see if it stinks, too. If it stinks, then out it comes!


    The second picture shows that there are "metal clips" under the rubber door seal. They were clipped to the carpet and to the metal seam, which held the rubber in place...

    I have already had help from Harold and Gary! Thanks guys!
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    Okie Dokie... More metal work has been done to my 72 Wagon project. We (Terry mostly) had already worked on the inner front drivers side fender due to rust. We really didn't expect too much rust on the inner fender on the passenger side but when we remove the outer fender, there it was! It was in the same place as the other front fender. Also, the front area around the headlight was rusted pretty good but as you can see, it's been fixed with new metal.

    Next up is replacing both front jacking points. We will be going through the floor boards to weld the jack points in place. That will give us a "cleaner" look once everything is done.
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    Thumbs upLooks great Roy

    I'll bet that when you and Terry get through it will look as nice as your GT. You're going to know why it is that once you have a wagon, it's hard to drive something else to a show!

    Will we see it at Carlisle this year?

    BTW -Insurance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooooner View Post
    Next up is replacing both front jacking point. We will be going through the floor boards to weld the jack points in place. That will give us a "cleaner" look once everything is done.
    Roy. Others may have already given you a heads up but
    if the jack points are rusted and/or crushed expect the floor above them and frame rail they partially cover to be rust damaged also. On my current Manta restoration project what looked like a very good un-rusted passenger front floor ended up needing a good size patch above the jack point and the frame rail covered by the jack bracket in that area also needed patching. Not a huge repair but unexpected.
    The drivers floor/jack point on mine was obviously in need of major repair including new rust repair floor panel from Germany.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saxybiker View Post

    Will we see it at Carlisle this year?

    BTW -Insurance?

    Allen & Vickie Gage
    Yep, we will be at Carlisle for sure. We would like to bring the wagon but not too sure it will be ready by then. We just want to do it the "right way" and not rush it.

    Ask Allen if he knows any good insurance agents? Geico maybe? 😊
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    Mark, thanks for the heads up on the jack points. We've already opened up the floor on the passenger side and it's not as bad as you described. But we may run into that problem on the driver side. We will be on the lookout for it. Thanks....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooooner View Post
    Mark, thanks for the heads up on the jack points. We've already opened up the floor on the passenger side and it's not as bad as you described. But we may run into that problem on the driver side. We will be on the lookout for it. Thanks....
    Mine looked fine until we removed the inside sound deadening tar mat. But that was hiding the big surprise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aardvaark View Post
    Mine looked fine until we removed the inside sound deadening tar mat. But that was hiding the big surprise.
    Actually, the tar mat on the passenger side, once removed, didn't show any signs of problems. Once we cut into it, there was the rust! We haven't uncovered the drivers side yet... 😳
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    QuestionInsurance?

    You know Roy - it's so simple a cave man could have done it!!!!

    Allen Gage
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