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Coming up

It will be coming up real soon, I still have to do some metal repair down low from damage??? Not sure what happend there, but a few little things and I will be pounding the filler...ha. Kind of like Talledaga Nights but I call it "Cave and Pave"
Well I don't really have any caves to pave, but will probably skim the whole car to make sure it is as straight as I can make it. I apply 100% filler, then sand off about 98%-fun dusty job too
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Can't help but notice the 'spray booth' you're using...the EPA and CT's own DEP (Department of Environmental Protection) would crucify me if I ever did such a thing at home!

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Can't help but notice the 'spray booth' you're using...the EPA and CT's own DEP (Department of Environmental Protection) would crucify me if I ever did such a thing at home!

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We can do things like that, here in the South. Keith can have his "paint booth" as long as he don't say nuthin about the "still" down the road...
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paint booth

Yes, the booth is a little iffy, you are still seeing it in the works. I just got the larger fan and what I will be doing is building a large wooden suction chamber that will sit outside. I will put filters in it, so it will be a little more professional. It will be where it can be disassembled for storage. I don't like just the fan at the door either, but for primer, it works. I will run three fans to suck enough air through hopefully. Basiccally it will look from the outside like a vacuum cleaner sucking up the underside of the door. Also notice the Manta in the background of the pics-Thats Daves that will be next to get painted, so I have to upgrade the ole' southern paint booth.
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Once again, your doing what I'm doing, at the time that I'm doing it.

If you don't think that your project threads help, they do! You were building the front suspension when I was building mine. Here your doing bodywork while I'm doing mine.
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In your thread "Cut in paint" I saw that you mask taped the outside panel parts of the doors and hood before you spray painted the insides of the doors and hood, I was asking my self for what reason did you do that??
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Good question

Cutting in paint, or jambing as they call it is when I want to paint the insides of the doors and hood and such. I tape off the other side because when spraying into crevises and such, sometimes dust particles fly out and spray patterns are altered and can cause overspray on other adjacent surfaces. I want the entire outside of the car to be the same shade of yellow. So when I paint the body surface, I will paint the hood and door surfaces the same time with the same amount of coats. Unless I hang the hood, I can only spray one side at a time. In a nutshell it eliminated one thing more to screw up a paint job by a spray blemish or debris blown out of a crevis. Not to say you cannot paint the entire car, doors and hood inside and out in one whack, you can do that as well.
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This is awesome, very nice paint job eventhou yellow isn't my color it looks great

I've heard that metalic colors are hard to spraypaint, do you have any experience and/or tips??
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Great job Keith as usual! The car looks great. As you may recall, Yellow was one of my top three color choices when I was trying to decide what color to paint my car. It looks great and the owner has to be impressed! You look like an astronaut in that paint suit!

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Thanks, and now metallics

I tend to stick to solids and honestly have only painted a metallic paint in acrylic enamel, which was a single stage. I have not had much experience with a base clear, except for at work we do it all the time, I always used single stage, as it is easier, and a lot less time consuming. But in answer to your question, your gun setup is critical, and air mixture needs to be a constant, metallic runs together easily, and you should use a wider spray pattern when shooting them. Also on a single stage, you have to watch that you do not wetsand the metallic out of it. I shot a TR7 in a dark metallic pewter color. I didn't mix my paint well (should have reduced it down more) It came out of the gun and dried as soon as it hit the surface, so it was textured, and way too much to sand out...needless to say I learned what I did wrong, and painted it the next weekend. Not a perfect job, but good enough to sell as finished 3 days later. So practice on a panel, I know it isn't very cost effective to practice with expensive chemicals and paints, but sometimes if you know a shop, they may sell you leftovers cheap to experiment with. I would do smaller test pieces myself before I painted a whole car not knowing.
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I tend to stick to solids and honestly have only painted a metallic paint in acrylic enamel, which was a single stage. I have not had much experience......... .......... but sometimes if you know a shop, they may sell you leftovers cheap to experiment with. I would do smaller test pieces myself before I painted a whole car not knowing.
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As this project get into the real interesting stuff, you might want to put a link to the comments thread in you signature.

I'd like to see what you do with the door panels. There aren't too many people who show indepth interior work on the site. Also, nice to see a non-black interior.
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I will try to add the link for the ccomments section. Your right about the interior, most are not suppling info on that, so we will see. I have some ideas on the door panels for incorporated speakers, but nothing final yet
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Keith - if you have the time, please post detailed pics and text on the install of the "Oil Temp. / Volt Gauge" from OGTS. I assume you are putting it in place of the clock...

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Very nice work indeed, I may have to try my hand at painting next time. I do believe I could get the use of my friends paint booth which would be very sweet. The process you are going through now is the most tedious part of the rebuild but is also the difference between a car that looks just pretty nice vs. one that looks awesome. Be careful with that dash cap, others have said that it warps in the sun.
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Keith;
Where did you get that tool to measure wheel backspacing? Is it plastic or metal?
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Be careful with that dash cap, others have said that it warps in the sun.

Keith ought to be an old hand with dashcaps as this will be his second install of one.

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Where did you get that tool to measure wheel backspacing? Is it plastic or metal?

It looks very much like http://http://store.summitracing.com...5&autoview=sku.

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Or Jegs

Jegs carries them as well, it is plastic-what isn't anymore?
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Keith ought to be an old hand with dashcaps as this will be his second install of one.

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My dashcap is still in like new condition a year later. Granted my car is garaged or in covered parking 90% of the time. However, I've had my car parked in the direct sunlight all day in very high temperatures for car shows and, while the plastic did begin to "lift" a little, it went right back to its original shape after cooling down.

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So I think we are going to have to go with 8 inch wheels. We still might go full custom wheels, so I want to properly measure and know what offset will look the best, as we will choose whatever offset we wish going custom. So what I am using here is a specialty wheel offset measuring tool. I can place it to whatever width and diameter of wheel I want. I can adjust the offset or backspace, and simulate the tire also. It comes in handy for these different tire and wheel combos.
Keith, be sure to check both sides of the car. The right rear side of a GT has less clearance than the left side due to the panhard bar bracketry. I seem to recall that 5.5" backspace is the absolute max there....

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Backspace

Good point, and I think you are right on the backspace, of course that will vary with the width of the wheel. I will check that
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Good point, and I think you are right on the backspace, of course that will vary with the width of the wheel. I will check that
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I thought backspace was from the center, so how does the width of the wheel affect backspace?

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Okay

What I ment smarty was different offsets, not backspacing. A zero offset on a wheel that is 7 inches has a different backspace than a 8 inch wheel with the same offset. Sorry I didn't clarify, oh great one
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I need to prepare for the windshield install, but first I have a few things to do beforehand. By the way our windshield is a new tinted one from Pilkington, made in England
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Keith, be careful with that windshield! I broke one of them trying to get it in . I brought the second one to a glass guy that I know because I didn't want to break another one. The glass guy told me that there was no way I would have ever gotten the glass in because it was not formed perfectly. He had to put it in and take it out 4 times and was grinding it down a little each time until he got the proper fit. Just a heads up.
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