Driving the Opel GT

[hallgeir]

It finally stopped raining, so I had a little fun last tuesday on my favorite road:
YouTube - Driving the Opel GT

[namba209]

That's a great stretch of road, Hallgeir, and the music isn't bad either. Great 9 minutes of fun.

[newman27]

Nice video and looks like a great road to drive - no center line!?!

[ZmokE]

Hmmm...should be go to Norway....nice track indeed!

[2 Fast 4 U]

Nice video, fine road to cruise

[hallgeir]

It sure is a nice road to drive. Every time I drive it, I have a big smile on my face all the time. If the ears didn`t block it, I think it would go all the way around my head.

Originally Posted by newman27 Nice video and looks like a great road to drive - no center line!?!

That`s right, no center line on the narrow roads. I`m not sure why, but I did read something about people are driving more carefully on the narrow roads when there isn`t a center line.

[jlthunder]

I noticed a Saab, either a 9-3 or 9-5 went past you in the other direction. It is nice to see other cars from all around the world.

Great video!

[hallgeir]

That was a 9-3. As far as I know, it`s built on the same platform as the Opel Vectra. You probably know more than me about that. Don`t think it can beat your turbo-V6-wild-animal, but i think it`s a nice car.
Glad you liked the video. My wife doesn`t see the point in making a video like this, but then I tell her: There are things in this world that you`ll never understand. But those people out there that enjoys taking an old sports car for a drive, will.

[jlthunder]

Originally Posted by hallgeir That was a 9-3. As far as I know, it`s built on the same platform as the Opel Vectra. You probably know more than me about that. Don`t think it can beat your turbo-V6-wild-animal, but i think it`s a nice car. My wife doesn`t see the point in making a video like this

If it was a 9-3 Aero, it would beat me in no time. Mine is a low pressure turbo, but it is pleanty of power for me.

I'm not going to touch your wife's statement

Again, I think your video will give a lot of people the incentive to finish their project and hit the road.

[hallgeir]

Yes, the Aero is a fast car, but you won`t see many of them around here. An example: Saab 9-3 2.8T V6 Aut. Aero Cab: NOK 898400.00 or USD 167315.00

[jlthunder]

Originally Posted by hallgeir Yes, the Aero is a fast car, but you won`t see many of them around here. An example: Saab 9-3 2.8T V6 Aut. Aero Cab: NOK 898400.00 or USD 167315.00

Why so much?????

[neuropel]

A former co-worker of mine had a 9-5 Aero that was pretty quick and handled very nicely, but he ended up taking it back in numerous times because the suspension wouldn't stay in adjustment - kinda weird. Anyone else ever hear of that? The suspension would begin to sag over the course of a few weeks. He'd notice it starting to drag going over this one bump in his driveway. When he got it back it would be fine for a couple of weeks and then start doing it again.

[hallgeir]

Tax, tax and more tax. And then some tax again. I`m not sure exactly how it works, but there`s tax on HP, motor-volume and the cars weight in addition to tax on the cars price. For some strange reason, here a car is still a "luxury item". Just like 80 years ago.

[jlthunder]

The 9-5 rear suspension is prone to wearing out, but your friend's case is strange.

There are a few of us Saab owners here. I guess we can't break our ties with our true love of Opels so we have to go under cover. We also hide our obsession with Saturn L-300's, Caddy Catera's and we can't forget the Pontiac LeMans from the '80s.

Uh oh, thread creep. At least these cars are related to Opels.

Let's watch that video again and enjoy!

[2 Fast 4 U]

Originally Posted by hallgeir Tax, tax and more tax. And then some tax again. I`m not sure exactly how it works, but there`s tax on HP, motor-volume and the cars weight in addition to tax on the cars price. For some strange reason, here a car is still a "luxury item". Just like 80 years ago.

Same here in Holland, here a few examples:

Netto price car € 5000.00
BPM € 720.00 [14.4%] [BPM = Tax Cars & Motor bikes]
Tax € 950 [19%]
Total € 6.670

Netto price car € 10000.00 [$ 14309.00] [$ 1.00 = € 0.6989]
BPM € 2980.00 [29.8%] [$ 4264.08]
Tax € 1900.00 [19%] [$ 2718.71]
Total € 14880.00 [$ 21291.79]

Netto price car € 30000.00
BPM € 12.020 [40.066%]
Tax € 5.700 [19%]
Total € 47.720

Netto price car € 100000.00
BPM € 43.660 [43.66%]
Tax € 19.000 [19%]
Total € 162.660

last one:
Netto price car € 200000.00
BPM € 88.860 [44.43%]
Tax € 38.000 [19%]
Total € 326.860

[hustlerzlife]

And the Democrats here in the states say they want to emulate the European social systems.... I'll keep what little money I have thank you.

[tom_laan]

hey,
how is it you have different BPM %? cause in holland BPM is 45,2 on all cars. doesnt matter how much it costs.

[hallgeir]

Seems like we are a bit off track here, but the world needs to know this :

An example:

New car 2007,
Taxfree price: NOK 135000.00 ~ USD 25184.00 ~ EUR 17494.00
Weight: 1640 kg
CO2: 177 g/km
Engine power: 125 kW

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Base for calculation of VAT:
Taxfree price: NOK 135000.00 ~ USD 25184.00 ~ EUR 17494.00
+ Shipping etc.: NOK 2500.00 ~ USD 466.00 ~ EUR 324.00
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Total: NOK 137500.00 ~ USD 25650.00 ~ EUR 17818.00
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VAT (25%): NOK 34375.00 ~ USD 6412.00 ~ EUR 4454.00
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Weight tax: NOK 94192.00 ~ USD 17571.00 ~ EUR 12205.00
+ CO2 tax: NOK 27234.00 ~ USD 5080.00 ~ EUR 3529.00
+ Engine power tax: NOK 62607.00 ~ USD 11679.00 ~ EUR 8113.00
+ VAT: NOK 34375.00 ~ USD 6412.00 ~ EUR 4454.00
+ Recycling tax: NOK 1300.00 ~ USD 242.00 ~ EUR 168.00
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Total tax: NOK 219708.00 ~ USD 40984.00 ~ EUR 28469.00
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+ Taxfree price NOK 135000.00 ~ USD 25184.00 ~ EUR 17494.00
+ Shipping etc. NOK 2500.00 ~ USD 466.00 ~ EUR 324.00
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Total car price: NOK 357208.00 ~ USD 66634.00 ~ EUR 46287.00


Now, I think I`ll go for one more drive in my GT.

[2 Fast 4 U]

Originally Posted by tom_laan hey, how is it you have different BPM %? cause in holland BPM is 45,2 on all cars. doesnt matter how much it costs.

hier op deze site van Auto Week

[Gordy]

Thanks for the ride!
Ever have any close calls on those blind curves?

[hallgeir]

Originally Posted by Gordy Thanks for the ride! Ever have any close calls on those blind curves?

No, I haven`t, .........yet.
Gotta keep it to the right in the blind curves, and not going too fast. Don`t want anything to happen to my dear old GT (or to dear old myself, for that matter). There is very little traffic, and most people who drive this road are used to it, and drives the same way. Always got to be prepared for the unexpected though. This is a type of road where you can drive fast without driving really fast, if you know what I mean. You can have much fun without breaking the speed limit, which is mostly 80 km/h (50 mph, I think).

[tom_laan]

Originally Posted by 2 Fast 4 U hier op deze site van Auto Week

wat daar uit komt klopt egt niet joh. ben autoverkoper, heb 4 jaar voor geleerd en dit nog nooit gzien. moet n fout zijn. iedere nieuwe auto ongeacht de prijs heeft altijd 45,2% BPM over de netto catalogusprijs. dit vin ik dus eg vaag. ga ze ff mailtje sturen.

must be a error in the website. nice roads there btw. but you need to put the pedal to the metal :P doesn't seem to go that fast. but that's always the case with those videos.

[hallgeir]

Originally Posted by tom_laan nice roads there btw. but you need to put the pedal to the metal :P doesnt seem to go that fast. but thats always the case with those video's.

Yes Tom, it`s a bit disappointing to watch that low quality version on youtube. It doesn`t give a good feeling of the actual speed. In reality, I couldn`t go much faster, and still be on the safe side. The original videofile is a very different story. You get a much better and more realistic feeling of the speed from that. But it`s a 17 minutes 3.5 GB file, so I guess none of you will ever see it.

[PROPEL]

Originally Posted by hallgeir Yes Tom, it`s a bit disappointing to watch that low quality version on youtube. It doesn`t give a good feeling of the actual speed.

Having made videos like this, myself, I can tell you that the true sense of speed will not be conveyed well unless the camera is mounted low on the vehicle. The ground speed gives a good frame of reference to support the motion. The other thing you can try is reducing the field of vision through the lense, so that peripheral objects (lightposts, trees, etc,) go by much faster.

Nevertheless, I still know that you were hauling. Nice video! Thanks for sharing.

[hallgeir]

Thanks for the advice. I was thinking of mounting the camera low, but I didn`t feel like mounting my brand new Handycam anywhere but inside the car. I didn`t think of reducing the field of vision through the lense, but that sounds logical. Also, I made the video in 16:9 format, but when I watch it on youtube it seems like it is wider than it should be. Don`t know why that is, or if it has anything to do with the sense of speed.