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Cunning Linguist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Plano, TX 75074
Posts: 4,441
Real Name: Otto
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My Bitter FI fuel pump froze up and has to be replaced. I knew I wouldn't be able to do a direct lookup, not even listed of course, but knew that the pump was similar to the ones used in '80s FI BMWs . . . probably other Euro cars too. First place searched though was our very own '75 1900/Manta FI models, sadly no FI pump is listed directly under Opels anymore . . . I know it was still listed a few years ago at this site. Looked back in my Outlook "rockauto" folder and found an order from many years ago with a manufacturer's name and part number on it . . . woohoo! ![]() The RockAuto site has a very handy "Part Number Search" tab at the top of the page, which I used to find the part again. The '75 FI pump uses a different pressure-side hose connection, 90° to pump axis, than the Bitter's puimp, in-line with pump axis. The "Part Number Search" tab features "wild cards" so that it can also be used to search for a whole series of FI pumps from the same manufacturer, VERY handy! The P/N for the Airtex '75 Opel FI pump is E8312 and includes a photo of what it looks like. ![]() To find an FI pump for my Bitter with the straight hose nipple at the pressure end was merely a case of searching for "Airtex" and "E82**", as there were no correct ones in my "E83**" search. The one I found for my Bitter is P/N E8228 ![]() The best part is the prices . . . $109 for the Manta pump and $87 for the Bitter!
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1960: ♥ '61 Rekord PII 1.7 3S 3.9 ♥ '69 Kadett LS 'sprint' 1.9 3A 3.18 1970: ♥ '70 GT 1.9 4S 3.44 ♥ '72 GT 2.2SSD 5S 3.44 ♥ '72 GT 2.4FI 5S 3.44P 1980: ♥ '85 Bitter SC 3.9FI 5S 3.44P 2000: ♥ '09 Solstice GXP Coupe 2.0 SIDI VVT Turbo 5S 3.73P Last edited by tekenaar; 08-20-2008 at 01:21 AM. |
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Fallbrook, Calif.
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Nice timing, since I just listed an OEM pump. LOL What can I say, it's not factory and not a Bosch unit. Oh yeah, buy mine.
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75 MANTA A "2.0 Euro stuff! Fun and Fast "Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you." Last edited by tekenaar; 08-20-2008 at 03:23 PM. |
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I have the MSD pump in my car and it is very noisy, and I do have it mounted in their rubber D shaped mounts. I have not tackled the problem yet but I will need to isolate it better or it is going to be very annoying.
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Jeff '73 GT,5spd,Recaro,EDIS4 2.2 EFI by MegaSquirt, Ali Flywheel w/S10 Clutch, Electric Fan, Roller Rockers, Venolia Pistons, 6 Cyl Intake w/ Custom Injection, 15" Wheels,Lecarra,F&R Sway Bars,Custom Exhaust,1" Sport Spring,Koni Reds,Big Brakes,3 Core Ali Radiator,Hse of Colors Kandy Pagan Gold. 123 WHP @ 6800 RPM ![]() '64 VW Karmann Ghia '08 BMW M3 |
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Under the car just in front of the rear axle on the drivers side.
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Jeff '73 GT,5spd,Recaro,EDIS4 2.2 EFI by MegaSquirt, Ali Flywheel w/S10 Clutch, Electric Fan, Roller Rockers, Venolia Pistons, 6 Cyl Intake w/ Custom Injection, 15" Wheels,Lecarra,F&R Sway Bars,Custom Exhaust,1" Sport Spring,Koni Reds,Big Brakes,3 Core Ali Radiator,Hse of Colors Kandy Pagan Gold. 123 WHP @ 6800 RPM ![]() '64 VW Karmann Ghia '08 BMW M3 |
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Oregon
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When I tested the pump it didn't seem abnormally loud.
Are you running a swirl pot up front to feed the pump or is this pump feeding all the way from the main gas tank? It may be cavitation if it is the latter.
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1972 Opel GT: 2.4, big brakes, efi - inprogress
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3/8" steel line direct to the pump with 2 pickups inside the tank, I don't think it is cavitation, I think it is because it is mounted to the bottom of the body and the body is acting like a sound board, I have to isolate it better I guess.
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Jeff '73 GT,5spd,Recaro,EDIS4 2.2 EFI by MegaSquirt, Ali Flywheel w/S10 Clutch, Electric Fan, Roller Rockers, Venolia Pistons, 6 Cyl Intake w/ Custom Injection, 15" Wheels,Lecarra,F&R Sway Bars,Custom Exhaust,1" Sport Spring,Koni Reds,Big Brakes,3 Core Ali Radiator,Hse of Colors Kandy Pagan Gold. 123 WHP @ 6800 RPM ![]() '64 VW Karmann Ghia '08 BMW M3 |
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Imperial Beach, CA South of San Diego
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Guys, I don't know which type of pumps you have, piston or rotary, but I do know for sure the rotary pumps are a lot quieter than the piston type, by a bunch.
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Ron 72 GT 3.4L V-6/T-5/ZF posi - almost done - Just need AC installed. ![]() 75 Chevy monza 5.7L/TH350/Auburn 3.08 posi - Next |
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Cunning Linguist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Plano, TX 75074
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. . . to the best of my knowledge, all hi-pressure, above ~15PSI, FI pumps are rotary . . . TB FI pumps may not be . . .
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1960: ♥ '61 Rekord PII 1.7 3S 3.9 ♥ '69 Kadett LS 'sprint' 1.9 3A 3.18 1970: ♥ '70 GT 1.9 4S 3.44 ♥ '72 GT 2.2SSD 5S 3.44 ♥ '72 GT 2.4FI 5S 3.44P 1980: ♥ '85 Bitter SC 3.9FI 5S 3.44P 2000: ♥ '09 Solstice GXP Coupe 2.0 SIDI VVT Turbo 5S 3.73P |
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Cunning Linguist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Plano, TX 75074
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. . . just curious, Tom, but there are basically two types of carb e-pumps, pulsed-solenoid diaphragm - the most common and noisiest, and e-motor rotary - much less common, much less noisy and slightly more expensive . . . to which one are you referring above?
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1960: ♥ '61 Rekord PII 1.7 3S 3.9 ♥ '69 Kadett LS 'sprint' 1.9 3A 3.18 1970: ♥ '70 GT 1.9 4S 3.44 ♥ '72 GT 2.2SSD 5S 3.44 ♥ '72 GT 2.4FI 5S 3.44P 1980: ♥ '85 Bitter SC 3.9FI 5S 3.44P 2000: ♥ '09 Solstice GXP Coupe 2.0 SIDI VVT Turbo 5S 3.73P |
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Imperial Beach, CA South of San Diego
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Just for reference Tom, I have a low pressure/high volume pump and a high pressure pump in Willit?. When I turn the key on I can hear both of them running, until the computer turns them off. I cannot hear either of them with the engine running though.
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Ron 72 GT 3.4L V-6/T-5/ZF posi - almost done - Just need AC installed. ![]() 75 Chevy monza 5.7L/TH350/Auburn 3.08 posi - Next |
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
Posts: 2,242
Real Name: Mark Paar (not Parr)
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FIY for 1975 injection owners, the Airtex E8312 is normally a srocked item at Advance Auto since it's used on so many cars.
If you need one fast. While we find your parts, please enter your ZIP Code at PartsAmerica.com The E8228 is usually a next day part. While we find your parts, please enter your ZIP Code at PartsAmerica.com Looks like CarQuest stocks them too. At least the E8312. http://www.autozone.com/R,758057/veh...ductDetail.htm
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-Mark '75 Manta Direct link to my album of Opel related parts catalogs and magazine articles for reference: http://www.opelgt.com/photopost/show...ser/23031/sl/a Last edited by Aardvaark; 08-21-2008 at 10:54 PM. Reason: uasually |
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Yes I am. There is a schematic of my fuel system somewhere in my Willit? Update thread along with pics. Also in the Projects and Articles section of the site. Basically I've got a filter and pump in the rear that feeds a surge tank up front that supplies fuel to the high pressure pump, through a filter, then to the fuel rail. The pumps put out flow continuously because I have an overflow in the front tank, high pressure (75 psi) relief and fuel rail (50 psi) relief all going back to the main tank.
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Ron 72 GT 3.4L V-6/T-5/ZF posi - almost done - Just need AC installed. ![]() 75 Chevy monza 5.7L/TH350/Auburn 3.08 posi - Next Last edited by tekenaar; 08-22-2008 at 03:28 PM. Reason: Basicly; suplies; throough; continously |
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