OttoStart Installation Instructions.
OpelGT.com is the premier Opel GT Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Results 1 to 19 of 19

Thread: OttoStart Installation Instructions.

  1. #1
    Cunning Linguist Site Supporter My location tekenaar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Plano, TX 75074
    Posts
    5,296
    Real Name
    Otto
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0

    ExclamationOttoStart Installation Instructions.

    Though I send these with every unit, some have lost them over time, so it's worth a post here:



    . . . and the original OttoStart (different color wires):
    Attached Images Attached Images
    Last edited by tekenaar; 01-21-2008 at 04:11 PM.


    1960: '61 Rekord PII 1.7 3S 3.9 '69 Kadett LS 'sprint' 1.9 3A 3.18
    1970: '70 GT 1.9 4S 3.44 '72 GT 2.2SSD 5S 3.44 '72 GT 2.4FI 5S 3.44P
    1970: '73 GT 1.9FI 4S 3.44 '75 1900 1.9FI 4S 3.44
    1980: '85 Bitter SC 3.9FI 5S 3.44P
    2000: '09 Solstice GXP Coupe 2.0 SIDI VVT "Stage 2" Turbo 5S 3.73P


    "De inimico non tantum loquaris male, sed cogites."

  2. Remove Advertisements
    OpelGT.com
    Advertisements
     

  3. #2
    PrOpeller PROPEL's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Oceania
    Posts
    705
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Otto, if one were to wire this unit to a 1.1L starter, what would be the correct hookup? I think the two terminals are labeled 30 and 50.

  4. #3
    Cunning Linguist Site Supporter My location tekenaar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Plano, TX 75074
    Posts
    5,296
    Real Name
    Otto
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0

    Arrow

    Quote Originally Posted by PROPEL
    Otto, if one were to wire this unit to a 1.1L starter, what would be the correct hookup? I think the two terminals are labeled 30 and 50.
    They're both wired identically . . . 30 is the fat cable from the battery and is always on when the battery is connected, 50 is the "start" terminal of the ignition switch and is only powered during starting of the engine. This is the wire you remove from the solenoid male spade lug and connect to the orange OttoStart wire with the male spade lug.


    1960: '61 Rekord PII 1.7 3S 3.9 '69 Kadett LS 'sprint' 1.9 3A 3.18
    1970: '70 GT 1.9 4S 3.44 '72 GT 2.2SSD 5S 3.44 '72 GT 2.4FI 5S 3.44P
    1970: '73 GT 1.9FI 4S 3.44 '75 1900 1.9FI 4S 3.44
    1980: '85 Bitter SC 3.9FI 5S 3.44P
    2000: '09 Solstice GXP Coupe 2.0 SIDI VVT "Stage 2" Turbo 5S 3.73P


    "De inimico non tantum loquaris male, sed cogites."

  5. Remove Advertisements
    OpelGT.com
    Advertisements
     

  6. #4
    Moderator My location jordan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    corning ny 14830
    Posts
    1,962
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    The instructions only account for 3 wires, what about the short orange wire?
    1970 Opel GT 1.9
    1980 Moto Guzzi V50
    2000 Saab 9-3 2.0 turbo
    2000 KTM 200 exc STOLEN

  7. #5
    Cunning Linguist Site Supporter My location tekenaar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Plano, TX 75074
    Posts
    5,296
    Real Name
    Otto
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0

    QuestionHmmmmm . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by jordan
    The instructions only account for 3 wires, what about the short orange wire?
    You're supposed to leave that on the relay mounting screw, AS PACKAGED, with the rubber band holding it in place! When you mount the relay, as instructed in Step 2, it becomes the relay coil ground. You will not be able to start engine without this connection in place.

    Nowhere does it say to remove the short orange wire from from the relay mounting screw before mounting the relay! Guess instructions weren't as foolproof as I thought.


    1960: '61 Rekord PII 1.7 3S 3.9 '69 Kadett LS 'sprint' 1.9 3A 3.18
    1970: '70 GT 1.9 4S 3.44 '72 GT 2.2SSD 5S 3.44 '72 GT 2.4FI 5S 3.44P
    1970: '73 GT 1.9FI 4S 3.44 '75 1900 1.9FI 4S 3.44
    1980: '85 Bitter SC 3.9FI 5S 3.44P
    2000: '09 Solstice GXP Coupe 2.0 SIDI VVT "Stage 2" Turbo 5S 3.73P


    "De inimico non tantum loquaris male, sed cogites."

  8. #6
    Moderator My location jordan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    corning ny 14830
    Posts
    1,962
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    I bought the relay from another member on the board, and the screw was missing.
    1970 Opel GT 1.9
    1980 Moto Guzzi V50
    2000 Saab 9-3 2.0 turbo
    2000 KTM 200 exc STOLEN

  9. #7
    Cunning Linguist Site Supporter My location tekenaar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Plano, TX 75074
    Posts
    5,296
    Real Name
    Otto
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by jordan
    I bought the relay from another member on the board, and the screw was missing.
    Aah Sooo, Grasshopper . . . well now at least you know.


    1960: '61 Rekord PII 1.7 3S 3.9 '69 Kadett LS 'sprint' 1.9 3A 3.18
    1970: '70 GT 1.9 4S 3.44 '72 GT 2.2SSD 5S 3.44 '72 GT 2.4FI 5S 3.44P
    1970: '73 GT 1.9FI 4S 3.44 '75 1900 1.9FI 4S 3.44
    1980: '85 Bitter SC 3.9FI 5S 3.44P
    2000: '09 Solstice GXP Coupe 2.0 SIDI VVT "Stage 2" Turbo 5S 3.73P


    "De inimico non tantum loquaris male, sed cogites."

  10. #8
    GT Owner, Ascona Mechanic My location lkyrog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Camp Hill PA (Near Carlisle)
    Posts
    288
    Real Name
    Roger Summy
    Downloads
    1
    Uploads
    0
    Installed Ottostart today, took me all of 10 Minutes. Works good, scratch this off my "upgrades needed" list.
    Thanks tekenaar.
    Life is shorter than you think...Live!

  11. #9
    1000 Post Club My location baronbors's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    League City Texas
    Posts
    1,126
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by lkyrog
    Installed Ottostart today, took me all of 10 Minutes. Works good, scratch this off my "upgrades needed" list.
    Thanks tekenaar.
    10 minutes- What took you so long? 4min 25 sec start to finish. Thanks for the fast ship Otto. But my question is- How do I know that this thing is working? Everything seems the same engine starts, gauges work, no difference than before. HOW do I know???????

    Texas Opel Preservation Society

  12. #10
    5,000 Post Club My location namba209 (R.I.P.)'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    Imperial Beach, CA South of San Diego
    Posts
    5,893
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Tom, IIRC, you took the wire off the starter solenoid and ran it to the relay, then the wire from the relay went to the starter solenoid. If the engine starts, it's working. HTH.
    Ron
    72 GT 3.4L V-6/T-5/ZF posi - almost done - Just need AC installed.
    75 Chevy monza 5.7L/TH350/Auburn 3.08 posi - Next

  13. #11
    Cunning Linguist Site Supporter My location tekenaar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Plano, TX 75074
    Posts
    5,296
    Real Name
    Otto
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0

    Red faceThought I did this . . .

    I thought I'd transferred my 'OttoStart' schematic from 'classicopels' on Yahoo! to this site when I signed up here . . . I 'Search'ed, couldn't find it here.

    Since this has never been a 'secret', here it is . . . again:



    1960: '61 Rekord PII 1.7 3S 3.9 '69 Kadett LS 'sprint' 1.9 3A 3.18
    1970: '70 GT 1.9 4S 3.44 '72 GT 2.2SSD 5S 3.44 '72 GT 2.4FI 5S 3.44P
    1970: '73 GT 1.9FI 4S 3.44 '75 1900 1.9FI 4S 3.44
    1980: '85 Bitter SC 3.9FI 5S 3.44P
    2000: '09 Solstice GXP Coupe 2.0 SIDI VVT "Stage 2" Turbo 5S 3.73P


    "De inimico non tantum loquaris male, sed cogites."

  14. #12
    Sick with Opelitus My location broszzy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Janesville wisconsin
    Posts
    1,290
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Do you still need the relay if you have a push button start? My guess is yes but just want to make sure.

    Thanks Pat

  15. #13
    Opeler My location jvandyke's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Hudsonville, Michigan, USA
    Posts
    1,767
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by broszzy View Post
    Do you still need the relay if you have a push button start? My guess is yes but just want to make sure.

    Thanks Pat
    Since the main reason for the relay is to save the ignition, the horses are out of the barn already since it's already failed. Might make the push button last longer.
    "Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn." Benjamin Franklin

  16. #14
    Opel Intern Swiftus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Corvallis, Oregon
    Posts
    1,187
    Real Name
    Jay Swift
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    So the Otto Start is 30 amps right? What if I would like to have a 100 amp alternator? Am I in danger of cooking the Otto Start?

  17. #15
    Senior Contributor markandson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Mahopac, NY
    Posts
    4,001
    Real Name
    Jeff
    Downloads
    1
    Uploads
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Redskinsjbs View Post
    So the Otto Start is 30 amps right? What if I would like to have a 100 amp alternator? Am I in danger of cooking the Otto Start?
    No, the relay will only see what the starter draws, not more, you could have a 1000 amp alt. and it would not matter.

    Plus the alt. isn't putting out anyway when cranking, the battery is supplying the power.
    Jeff

    '73 GT,5spd,Recaro,EDIS4 2.2 EFI MegaSqrt, Ali Flywhl w/S10 Clutch, Elec Fan, Roller Rockers, Venolia Pistons, 6 Cyl Intake w/ Custom Injection, 15" Wheels,F&R Sway Bars,2" Exhaust,1" Sport Spring,Koni Reds,Big Brakes,3:90 Gears & Gripper LSD,Rear Disks,Ali Radiator,Hse of Colors - Kandy Pagan Gold.
    123 WHP @ 6800 RPM

    www.markandson.net

    www.gpny.com

    '64 VW Ghia '09 S35 BMW Z4
    '15 BMW M4 '11 BMW 335 '04 Ford F150 SVT Lightning

  18. #16
    Opel Intern Swiftus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Corvallis, Oregon
    Posts
    1,187
    Real Name
    Jay Swift
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by markandson View Post
    No, the relay will only see what the starter draws, not more, you could have a 1000 amp alt. and it would not matter.

    Plus the alt. isn't putting out anyway when cranking, the battery is supplying the power.
    DOH! I should know that the alt. doesn't work if the engine isn't on! Thanks for the simple explanation; I should be able to do electrics, I built an FDM machine for Pete's sake. Oh I wonder where my brain is sometimes.

  19. #17
    Cunning Linguist Site Supporter My location tekenaar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Plano, TX 75074
    Posts
    5,296
    Real Name
    Otto
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0

    ExclamationNot exactly, guys . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Redskinsjbs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by markandson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Redskinsjbs View Post
    So the Otto Start is 30 amps right? What if I would like to have a 100 amp alternator? Am I in danger of cooking the Otto Start?
    No, the relay will only see what the starter draws, not more, you could have a 1000 amp alt. and it would not matter.

    Plus the alt. isn't putting out anyway when cranking, the battery is supplying the power.
    DOH! I should know that the alt. doesn't work if the engine isn't on! Thanks for the simple explanation; I should be able to do electrics, I built an FDM machine for Pete's sake. Oh I wonder where my brain is sometimes.
    . . . firstly, the OttoStart relay !CONTACTS! are rated at 30/40 amps, the relay coil only "draws" a few milliamps from the ignition switch "Start" contacts! Greatly reducing the ignition switch "Start" contacts' current is the whole purpose behind the OttoStart design in the first place.

    Secondly, the OttoStart contacts, which actually have that 30/40 amps rating, actually only "see/draw" the starter solenoid coil's pick/hold current, not the starter current itself! The starter current is only "seen/drawn" at the starter solenoid contacts inside the solenoid, OK?!
    Last edited by tekenaar; 01-16-2009 at 12:37 PM.


    1960: '61 Rekord PII 1.7 3S 3.9 '69 Kadett LS 'sprint' 1.9 3A 3.18
    1970: '70 GT 1.9 4S 3.44 '72 GT 2.2SSD 5S 3.44 '72 GT 2.4FI 5S 3.44P
    1970: '73 GT 1.9FI 4S 3.44 '75 1900 1.9FI 4S 3.44
    1980: '85 Bitter SC 3.9FI 5S 3.44P
    2000: '09 Solstice GXP Coupe 2.0 SIDI VVT "Stage 2" Turbo 5S 3.73P


    "De inimico non tantum loquaris male, sed cogites."

  20. #18
    GTMan nyackanich's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    17
    Real Name
    Nick
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0

    where can I get an Otto Start relay?

    I just replaced my starter switch with a new switch from OGTS. How do I go about ordering an "Otto Start": relay? I figure it's better to be safe than sorry - even though I have the new starter switch now.

  21. #19
    Hoosier Opeler Site Supporter My location rrossjr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    indiana
    Posts
    1,501
    Real Name
    Ron
    Downloads
    2
    Uploads
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by nyackanich View Post
    ... I figure it's better to be safe than sorry - even though I have the new starter switch now.
    Good idea! Otto usually has a listing in the classifieds on this site, but I didn't see his ad when I checked just now. You can always send him a PM (tekenaar)
    Cheers,
    Ron in Indy

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

    Similar Threads

    1. Window regulator installation tips
      By BDD in forum 2B - Seats, Windows and Interior trim
      Replies: 46
      Last Post: 06-08-2011, 11:48 AM
    2. Targa Installation instructions
      By azzi in forum 2D - Body Repairs and Modifications
      Replies: 24
      Last Post: 10-16-2004, 09:06 PM
    3. Weber adjustment instructions
      By dengg in forum Aftermarket Down-draft carbs
      Replies: 1
      Last Post: 10-05-2004, 10:28 AM
    4. rear spoiler installation
      By free4u2nv in forum 2D - Body Repairs and Modifications
      Replies: 10
      Last Post: 01-26-2004, 05:37 PM
    5. Oil Change Instructions
      By Gary in forum Humor
      Replies: 1
      Last Post: 07-10-2003, 02:20 PM

    Bookmarks

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •