Greymarket Opel Rollcall

Phoenix · 05-25-2006

I know that Gary has at least a Olympia and a Senator, Rob has a Ascona 1.6, and Dieter has a Kadett C, but who else has greymarket cars out there?

Wouldn't it be nice if you could click on a list of models and it pull up everyone who had that model. You click on Rekord and all the Rekord owners pop-up. And I'm not just talking about greymarket cars either. You click on 70 GT and all the 70 owners pop-up. How difficult would it be to work that Gary?

Jonzo · 05-25-2006

I believe my 1969 Italian spec Opel GT qualifies as grey market, even though there are many of her American market siblings still running around the U.S.A.
See my garage for more info.
-Jonzo

Phoenix · 05-25-2006

Yep, that cool. Have you noticed any differences from German GTs?

Gary · 05-25-2006

Originally Posted by Phoenix

.....Wouldn't it be nice if you could click on a list of models and it pull up everyone who had that model. You click on Rekord and all the Rekord owners pop-up. And I'm not just talking about greymarket cars either. You click on 70 GT and all the 70 owners pop-up. How difficult would it be to work that Gary?

Finally have one in the works. I commissioned a programmer I work with to come up with a program, tied into the "Garage" feature, that will do all that and more. We set up a test site and are working on it there. More details will come as they are developed.

opelwasp · 05-25-2006

My dad has a 1968 Olympia LS 1.5L from Canada. Looks just like a 68 Kadett.

Rionart · 05-25-2006

Hmmm...it would appear that I may have a couple of 'Grey' imports....
1972 Ascona 1.6: German spec.
1974 Manta Luxus: UK spec.
1976 Manta Broadspeed Turbo: UK spec.
1980 Ascona B 2.0E: German spec.
1982 Manta B i200: German spec.
That's it for now...still looking for the Calibra, Monza, Aero and 400.....

RallyBob · 05-25-2006

Ernie Bello in Florida has a Kadett C he still races. I believe it's a '78 and he's owned/raced it since about 1980 or so.

Phoenix · 05-25-2006

Thats awesome Gary. What about clicking on a state and seeing all of the members in the state? I know that we have the map that pin points people. But not everyone puts themselves on it. I'm not even on it. My Uncle lives so close that my pin covers up his pin. And since he's way more important to the site and Georgia Club, I removed mine.

Jonzo · 05-26-2006

Yep, that cool. Have you noticed any differences from German GTs?

I'm aware of three differences between my Italian spec GT and the German market GT's.
1) It has a pair of amber colored side repeaters (extra blinkers located on fenders just forward of the Opel GT logo).
2) It has clear lenses on the front blinkers (amber colored running lights on U.S. spec).
3) My Italian market GT is "GT Metallic Green" exterior with tan interior. From what I can tell from the book "Opel GT: Project 1484" this color combo was only available on GT's destined for outside of Germany. I sometimes wonder if it had any thing to do with the fact that the German translation for the exterior color was "British Grun"?
There are a lot more differences between the Italian and US versions. I have most of them listed in my "Opel Garage".
-Jonzo

heimue · 05-26-2006

Originally Posted by Phoenix

... and Dieter has a Kadett C

Correction: My Kadett is a "B". No gray imports in my garage currently. Would love a Calibra though... Or maybe Rob "Rionart" wants to sell his i200 some time...???

Dieter

baz · 05-26-2006

i have moved this to general so this conversation can go on and not clutter up the site tips and feed back section
btw i think there was only 1 type that was a grey import here the GT(i dont think it was ever sold here by the dealers)

but i can buy all the rest of them as they all sold here

Phoenix · 05-26-2006

Sorry Dieter. And I think that Rob's trying to corner the market. So I think that your on your own. I first listed this thread in Other Models Forum.

baz · 05-26-2006

Originally Posted by Phoenix

. I first listed this thread in Other Models Forum.

as it was in site tips i moved it , someone must have thought it was more suited to tips but as it gets replys added a thread gets its own momentum and then a place for it can be worked out

Phoenix · 05-26-2006

Thanks Baz, I was wondering about that.

oldopelguy · 05-26-2006

My '67 Admiral is for sure a gray market. I'm reasonably sure my 4-door Kadett is not a US spec, as it's missing some US required items like the parking brake light and it has an origional high comp motor in '71. And, while the 59 Rekord sedan and 60 Olympia wagon were actually sold here at one point, there's sure not many around anymore. The remainder of the fleet is all US stuff though.

Phoenix · 05-26-2006

The Rekord and Olympia were sold here? Why didn't anyone tell me? Are there any others that were also sold here besides the four that I thought were the only ones? I'm fairly new to Opels knowledge, so don't scold me.

Killer Texas GT · 05-27-2006

Dieter and Kornelia Sedlmaier have nothing but gray market Opels, Check out pictures form Opel Club of Texas events, Manta Bs, Kadett, Omega, Astra (got totaled when hit broadside by a gal running a stop sign), so the count went from 11 down to 10 I believe is correct. Otto Bartsch and Marty Reimer also in the Texas Club both have Bitters.
With that there are at least 12 in Texas and possibly more.

spdkilz02 · 05-27-2006

i wouldnt mind trying to find me a Bitter to drive around...

spdkilz02 · 05-27-2006

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1985-...QQcmdZViewItem

well i did find that one, but dont have 15K to spend on another car thats for sure...

Mike Preble · 05-27-2006

I also have a grey market car. But it is a 67 RHD Austin Mini. Does that count? It is smaller then a GT and can still fit 4 people, sort of.

Mike

Phoenix · 05-27-2006

Definitely a greymarket car but I was considering only the opels. I'd like to here about Bitters too tough. I liked your Mini when I saw it though.

heimue · 07-11-2008

Originally Posted by Phoenix

I know that Gary has atleast a Olympia and a Senator, Rob has a Ascona 1.6, and Dieter has a Kadett C, but who else has greymarket cars out there?

Originally Posted by heimue

Correction: My Kadett is a "B". No gray imports in my garage currently.

Tony,

you are prophetic! You already knew two years ago I'd have a Kadett C... although I wanted to conceal it at that time!

Dieter

oppositelock · 07-11-2008

Wow, an old thread I never caught the first time. Well, I guess add my car to the list. A 1980 Ascona B rally car. It was brought over in 1984 to do the Carson City International Rally that year. I've owned it since 1988. Here's the thread that explains a bit about it and the on-going (yet somewhat stalled) restoration.:
http://www.opelgt.com/forums/racers-...rally-car.html

Rionart · 07-11-2008

Originally Posted by Rionart

Hmmm...it would appear that I may have a couple of 'Grey' imports....
1972 Ascona 1.6: German spec.
1974 Manta Luxus: UK spec.
1976 Manta Broadspeed Turbo: UK spec.
1980 Ascona B 2.0E: German spec.
1982 Manta B i200: German spec.
That's it for now...still looking for the Calibra, Monza, Aero and 400.....

Here we are a couple of years on....so no surprises I have added to the list:

1985 Monza GS/E: UK spec
1991 Senator 24V: German spec

OpelGT-de · 07-11-2008

Some (??) years ago a guy from a small town in the triangle AZ/CA/Mexico bougth a Calibra Turbo all-wheel -drive, from somebody who worked for the Swiss embassy. The Calibra had a clean US title.
I shipped some spare parts to him, but since four or five years it is total silence.
Dont know what happend with the guy and the car.

05-25-2006	#1 (permalink)
Phoenix Trouble Maker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Snellville, Ga Posts: 1,970 Real Name: Tony Holcomb Provided Answers: 2	Unanswered: Greymarket Opel Rollcall I know that Gary has at least a Olympia and a Senator, Rob has a Ascona 1.6, and Dieter has a Kadett C, but who else has greymarket cars out there? Wouldn't it be nice if you could click on a list of models and it pull up everyone who had that model. You click on Rekord and all the Rekord owners pop-up. And I'm not just talking about greymarket cars either. You click on 70 GT and all the 70 owners pop-up. How difficult would it be to work that Gary? __________________ Needs a 2dr Ascona, everyone else has one. Last edited by tekenaar; 08-14-2008 at 11:23 AM.

05-25-2006	#2 (permalink)
Jonzo Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 229 Provided Answers: 1	I got one! I believe my 1969 Italian spec Opel GT qualifies as grey market, even though there are many of her American market siblings still running around the U.S.A. See my garage for more info. -Jonzo

05-25-2006	#3 (permalink)
Phoenix Trouble Maker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Snellville, Ga Posts: 1,970 Real Name: Tony Holcomb Provided Answers: 2	Yep, that cool. Have you noticed any differences from German GTs? __________________ Needs a 2dr Ascona, everyone else has one.

05-25-2006	#5 (permalink)
opelwasp Non Civilian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Between Chico and Sac, CA Posts: 1,596 Provided Answers: 1	My dad has a 1968 Olympia LS 1.5L from Canada. Looks just like a 68 Kadett. __________________ Arguing online is the same as racing in the Special Olympics; no matter who wins, you're both still retarded. Last edited by tekenaar; 08-14-2008 at 11:26 AM. Reason: Kadette . . . from Quebec? ;-)

05-25-2006	#6 (permalink)
Rionart Manta Maniac Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,186 Provided Answers: 3	Greymarket cars.....who...me??? Hmmm...it would appear that I may have a couple of 'Grey' imports.... 1972 Ascona 1.6: German spec. 1974 Manta Luxus: UK spec. 1976 Manta Broadspeed Turbo: UK spec. 1980 Ascona B 2.0E: German spec. 1982 Manta B i200: German spec. That's it for now...still looking for the Calibra, Monza, Aero and 400.....

05-25-2006	#8 (permalink)
Phoenix Trouble Maker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Snellville, Ga Posts: 1,970 Real Name: Tony Holcomb Provided Answers: 2	Thats awesome Gary. What about clicking on a state and seeing all of the members in the state? I know that we have the map that pin points people. But not everyone puts themselves on it. I'm not even on it. My Uncle lives so close that my pin covers up his pin. And since he's way more important to the site and Georgia Club, I removed mine. __________________ Needs a 2dr Ascona, everyone else has one.

05-26-2006	#11 (permalink)
baz opel free after 26 years Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: sunderland england Posts: 4,941 Real Name: barry williams Provided Answers: 4	i have moved this to general so this conversation can go on and not clutter up the site tips and feed back section btw i think there was only 1 type that was a grey import here the GT(i dont think it was ever sold here by the dealers) but i can buy all the rest of them as they all sold here __________________ Copyright © 2003-2009 barry williams All Rights Reserved save praying to God for sunday today we pray to Nike and run like hell Last edited by baz; 05-26-2006 at 01:20 PM.

05-26-2006	#12 (permalink)
Phoenix Trouble Maker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Snellville, Ga Posts: 1,970 Real Name: Tony Holcomb Provided Answers: 2	Sorry Dieter. And I think that Rob's trying to corner the market. So I think that your on your own. I first listed this thread in Other Models Forum. __________________ Needs a 2dr Ascona, everyone else has one. Last edited by tekenaar; 08-14-2008 at 11:29 AM. Reason: Robs - steals?

05-26-2006	#14 (permalink)
Phoenix Trouble Maker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Snellville, Ga Posts: 1,970 Real Name: Tony Holcomb Provided Answers: 2	Thanks Baz, I was wondering about that. __________________ Needs a 2dr Ascona, everyone else has one.

05-26-2006	#15 (permalink)
oldopelguy Have Opel, Will Travel Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Saint Michael, MN Posts: 1,727 Logbook Entries: 3 Provided Answers: 2	shades of gray My '67 Admiral is for sure a gray market. I'm reasonably sure my 4-door Kadett is not a US spec, as it's missing some US required items like the parking brake light and it has an origional high comp motor in '71. And, while the 59 Rekord sedan and 60 Olympia wagon were actually sold here at one point, there's sure not many around anymore. The remainder of the fleet is all US stuff though. __________________ 1958 Rekord Sedan, 1958 Olympia Wagon, 1959 Opel Olympia Sedan, 1967 Kadett Coupe, 1967 Admiral Sedan 4L CIH-6, 1968 Kadett fastback 1.1L, 1970 Kadett Wagon Turbo 2.2L, 1971 Kadett Sedan 1.1L, 1975 Manta Wagon 4.3L V-6

05-26-2006	#16 (permalink)
Phoenix Trouble Maker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Snellville, Ga Posts: 1,970 Real Name: Tony Holcomb Provided Answers: 2	The Rekord and Olympia were sold here? Why didn't anyone tell me? Are there any others that were also sold here besides the four that I thought were the only ones? I'm fairly new to Opels knowledge, so don't scold me. __________________ Needs a 2dr Ascona, everyone else has one.

05-27-2006	#17 (permalink)
Killer Texas GT Senior Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Leonard, Texas Posts: 888 Provided Answers: 1	How many Grays do you want Dieter and Kornelia Sedlmaier have nothing but gray market Opels, Check out pictures form Opel Club of Texas events, Manta Bs, Kadett, Omega, Astra (got totaled when hit broadside by a gal running a stop sign), so the count went from 11 down to 10 I believe is correct. Otto Bartsch and Marty Reimer also in the Texas Club both have Bitters. With that there are at least 12 in Texas and possibly more. __________________ rk 68 Kadett 2 Dr 1.1 SR/Rallye Suspension 68 Kadett Rallye 1.9/4 Spd & AC 69 GT 1.9/4 Spd 70 GT 1.9/5 Spd,87 Impulse PB/MC/4 wheel 10.5" vented Disc/complete suspension/power assist & tilt wheel steering 71 Kadett 2 Dr 1.1/4 Spd/4 wheel drum brakes(project:to a 1.9 FI/Auto 75 Big Brakes/Impulse vented rr Disc, Factory AC from Buick/Opel by Isuzu 72 GT 1.9 FI/Auto 75 Big Brakes/Impulse vented rr Disc 73 Manta Rallye 75 Ascona 1.9 FI/5 Spd/Impulse rr Disc brakes OPEL WERKS

05-27-2006	#18 (permalink)
spdkilz02 1000 Post Club Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 1,734	i wouldnt mind trying to find me a Bitter to drive around... __________________ Adam

05-27-2006	#19 (permalink)
spdkilz02 1000 Post Club Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 1,734	http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1985-...QQcmdZViewItem well i did find that one, but dont have 15K to spend on another car thats for sure... __________________ Adam

05-27-2006	#20 (permalink)
Mike Preble Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 368 Provided Answers: 1	I also have a grey market car. But it is a 67 RHD Austin Mini. Does that count? It is smaller then a GT and can still fit 4 people, sort of. Mike

05-27-2006	#21 (permalink)
Phoenix Trouble Maker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Snellville, Ga Posts: 1,970 Real Name: Tony Holcomb Provided Answers: 2	Definitely a greymarket car but I was considering only the opels. I'd like to here about Bitters too tough. I liked your Mini when I saw it though. __________________ Needs a 2dr Ascona, everyone else has one. Last edited by tekenaar; 08-14-2008 at 11:44 AM. Reason: definitely NOT definately

07-11-2008	#23 (permalink)
oppositelock Oldpiler Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Seattle Posts: 235 Provided Answers: 1	Wow, an old thread I never caught the first time. Well, I guess add my car to the list. A 1980 Ascona B rally car. It was brought over in 1984 to do the Carson City International Rally that year. I've owned it since 1988. Here's the thread that explains a bit about it and the on-going (yet somewhat stalled) restoration.: http://www.opelgt.com/forums/racers-...rally-car.html __________________ Be warned, it makes a mess and a lot of smoke so have plenty of ventilation. Trust me, it works. I used to restore old British cars. - Dave Clark current Opel stable: 1980 Ascona B rally car

07-11-2008	#25 (permalink)
OpelGT-de Opeler Join Date: May 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 213	Some (??) years ago a guy from a small town in the triangle AZ/CA/Mexico bougth a Calibra Turbo all-wheel -drive, from somebody who worked for the Swiss embassy. The Calibra had a clean US title. I shipped some spare parts to him, but since four or five years it is total silence. Dont know what happend with the guy and the car.

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