Another Group Buy: Head Gaskets and Head Bolts (Place your Order Here)

[nobody]

Keith, what all is included in the head set? I know it has a cam button but is there cam covers and valve cover gaskets? I know of 1 build and one fix that need the early style ones right off. If it has those gaskets it drops the total set price to around 95 instead of 125. Every little bit helps.

[kwilford]

Originally Posted by nobody Keith, what all is included in the head set? I know it has a cam button but are there cam covers and valve cover gaskets? I know of 1 build and one fix that need the early style ones right off. If it has those gaskets it drops the total set price to around 95 instead of 125. Every little bit helps.

Here is what is in the HK7314 ('72 to '81 1897 cc) set:

1) later model 12-bolt head gasket and rubber coolant ring (not as high quality as a FelPro with the rubber sealing lines, but still decent)
2) newer model cam button
3) Valve stem seals: four cup-style, four viton ring-style)
4) Cork valve cover gasket
5) two cam covers and one side plate gasket
6) two carb base gaskets (but no thick spacer gasket)
7) Intake/exhaust to head gasket
8) two (2!) intake to exhaust gaskets (at least the kit I opened up)
9) two different exhaust to down-pipe gaskets; one for the early manifold and Sprint, the other for the large bore Euro Sprint manifold
10) two-bolt thermostat housing and cover gaskets

Here are some photos:

[kwilford]

And here is what is in the HK5319 ('65 to '72 1897 cc) set:

1) early model 10-bolt head gasket with the cork front gasket and rubber coolant ring (not as high quality as a FelPro with the rubber sealing lines, but still decent)
2) newer model cam button, so it MUST be machined shorter!
3) Valve stem seals: Eight viton ring-style
4) Cork valve cover gasket
5) two cam covers and one side plate gasket
6) two small bore carb base gaskets (but no thick spacer gasket)
7) Intake/exhaust to head gasket
8) One intake to exhaust gaskets (so the other kit must have had two by mistake)
9) One exhaust to down-pipe gasket
10) two-bolt thermostat housing (I presume this also works with the three-bolt housing) and cover gaskets

Here are some photos:

[nobody]

How many do you have? Price on 2 or 3 if you have that many.

[kwilford]

Originally Posted by nobody How many do you have? Price on 2 or 3 if you have that many.

Now it's my turn. Read post #21 for the remaining inventory. Prices are as stated earlier: head sets are $40 USD each, multiple orders get $10 off for reduced shipping of each additional set, so two would be $70 USD, three are $100. You want the earlier model (10-bolt), right? I have four right now.

[nobody]

I'll go for 3 of them but have to get a bit of approval first.


We be funny eh?

[nobody]

Can you reserve 2 HK5319 Head Gasket Set and 1 HK7314 Head Gasket Set for about a week?

[kwilford]

Originally Posted by nobody Can you reserve 2 HK5319 Head Gasket Set and 1 HK7314 Head Gasket Set for about a week?

Sure Dave.

[nobody]

Very nice packing job Keith. I got a real good look at the 2.0 version and the sealing areas are very similar to US made ones and additional cooling holes like the German ones. Very nice and worth more than I paid, Thank you

Very timely BTW it looks like I'll be doing a few motors this winter.

[kwilford]

Originally Posted by nobody Very nice packing job Keith.

Thanks for the compliment, Dave. I didn't want the gaskets to get bent up in the mail, so I bought a couple sheets of 1/8" hardboard (a 4x8 is only $7.50 CAD, which is about the same as cardboard) and ripped them on my table saw to fit the head gasket boxes. The duct tape was a simple way to hold them together. I made bigger boxes for multiple orders by using sides made of the same material, and fibreglass tape to reinforce it all. I would appreciate it if other folks who bought these can let me know how the boxes fared in transit.

Originally Posted by nobody I got a real good look at the 2.0 version and the sealing areas are very similar to US made ones and additional cooling holes like the German ones. Very nice and worth more than I paid, Thank you

I also thought that the 2.0 gaskets were especially well made. In a large order like this, the price was reasonable, as Gil's price is $33 each plus shipping. I still have one gasket left, so if anyone needs a 2.0 head gasket...

Originally Posted by nobody Very timely BTW it looks like I'll be doing a few motors this winter.

Do you still want the gaskets you put on hold? I have those and several others left, and I was going to eBay them pretty soon to get some of my money back. Please let me know by next weekend.
Thanks!

[kwilford]

I may have done a bad thing! I went to the post office today to send James his 2.0 head gasket, and I said to the guy "send it the same way I sent the other head gaskets: "Small Packet Ground". He said, sure, that will take 6 to 8 weeks!!! WHAT I said? I was told by the other guy that packages under 1 kg (2.2 lbs) could be sent "Small Packet Ground" instead of "Expedited Parcel" and save me a couple of bucks, but get there in the same 7 to 10 working days. He said, "You mean "Small Packet Air", which is about the same price, but takes about a week. Huh???

So I sent James' head gasket "Small Packet Air" and wondered WHY the heck the other guy had me send the earlier packages Ground. I know that a few members (nobody and opelphile) have already gotten their gaskets, in about 10 or twelve days, and they were sent Ground. Or so my waybills say. So again, when your gaskets show up, please let me know. And my apologies if it takes more than a couple of weeks. Not my fault! SORRY!

[yellaopelgt]

I still havent gotten mine yet Keith, but this explains the delay. Thats cool tho, I'm not quite ready for the tear down yet, and we still see a few days of decent weather here once in a while so its nice to give "Opie" a run before she gets packed up for the winter!!!:knockedou I'll give you a holler when it shows up.:wink1:
Joe

[asdasc]

Quick question, last time I built a motor was 20 years ago and it was done on a high school kids budget. I have a GT with a 2.0L head that was attached only recently. This winter I am making a 2.0L lower half of the engine to put in. Do I need a new head gasket or can I reuse the other one that is still pretty new, but already compressed once? If a new one is really needed, I will take the other one you have!

[kwilford]

Generally, a new head gasket is almost always needed when a head is removed. "Sometimes" (if the gasket is almost new, and if it comes apart with NO damage to the sealing rings, and there was no surface re-finishing, and it was a good quality gasket, blah blah blah...) you can re-use the head gasket. But that is not usually a good choice. And if you are rebuilding an engine, ALWAYS use a new gasket, especially if the head and block weren't mated before. And follow the instructions posted by RallyBob for a "Leak Proof Head Gasket", which I have attached below.

But unfortunately, James got my last 2.0 head gasket. I don't have plans for another Group Buy, but if I do, it would include 2.0 head gaskets. Better to call Gil for now.

HTH

[asdasc]

Will do! Thanks for all the information.

[kwilford]

I know that six of the gasket sets have been delivered, but I haven't heard back from:

Bill Hoffmann
neuropel
mr. bill
Mach1Tom
LUdovich
ConreroGT
svopel
n61wp

Can you please let me know if you have or have not received your order yet, and if so, the approximate date (I am trying to see which orders were delivered faster than the others). And let me know how the packing material held up. If they haven't come yet, I will get Canada Post to track the shipment.

I still have a few head gaskets and head gasket sets left. As of Dec 30 2005, I have:

1) head bolts: one set of ten
2) '65 to '72 1897 cc GK6352 Head Gasket: Two
3) '65 to '72 1897 cc HK5319 Head Gasket Set: SOLD OUT!
4) '72 to '78 1897 cc HK7314 Head Gasket Set: One set
5) '72 to '78 1897 cc GK6388 Head Gasket: Two
6) '83 to '88 1979 cc GK6355 Head Gasket: SOLD OUT!

Please let me know if want anything, as I am going to list the remaining gaskets on eBay during the Holidays.

Dave, do you still want your second order?

I have been talking to the British supplier, and he can get more of these gaskets and head bolts if the demand warrants it. I had asked him to source other parts, but the only thing he can that might be worthwhile are BG hydraulic lifters. Unfortunately, they don't make solid lifters, but he is looking at other sources. It would seem that the biggest seller was the 2.0/2.2/2.4 head gaskets, so I might place an order for them. I also sent a set of head bolts to RallyBob to demo, so if he thinks they are worthwhile, I might order more of those as well.

FWIW, I figured out my cost and profit, and after the dust settled, I was up $50 out of about $1000. So I think I have cut the price as far as a not-for-profit enterprise will allow!

Thanks to all, and to all, have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

[nobody]

Yes I still do but got a bit side tracked..

[ConreroGT]

Got mine approx mid November. Thanks.

***FWIW, I figured out my cost and profit, and after the dust settled, I was up $50 out of about $1000. So I think I have cut the price as far as a not-for-profit enterprise will allow!***

Non-profit is one thing, but you deserve more for going out of your way to do this Keith.

Cheers to Keith! Thanks again.

[Mach1Tom]

Keith,

My gaskets also arrived mid-November. As for the industrial packaging, the 1/8" masonite board held up extremely well. I think it could have been run over by the delivery truck & still come away unscratched.


Thanks,
~ Tom

[N61WP]

Keith,

Ditto to what Tom just said. I'm sorry, I thought I had let you know I got them. Great job...thanks a bunch!
James

[neuropel]

Same here...mine arrived last month. My son does his homework on them.

Todd K.

[kwilford]

I sent two packages of head gaskets and bolts out today, so as of Dec 30 2005, I have:

1) head bolts: one set of ten
2) '65 to '72 1897 cc GK6352 Head Gasket: Two
3) '65 to '72 1897 cc HK5319 Head Gasket Set: SOLD OUT!
4) '72 to '78 1897 cc HK7314 Head Gasket Set: One set
5) '72 to '78 1897 cc GK6388 Head Gasket: Two
6) '83 to '88 1979 cc GK6355 Head Gasket: SOLD OUT!

Gerald, your gaskets are on their way.

Dave, I was at the post office, so I sent yours as well, and added a little something extra. I was out of hardened washers, but I had a set of bolts all dressed up and nowhere to go, so they got attached to your gasket sets. No rush on the payment for the gaskets, and the bolts are on the house (when they come, open them up and tell me how many bolts were there; I had packaged them up a while ago and I THINK that it was a 20 bolt set).

Bob, did you get a chance to try the head bolts out yet?

[asdasc]

If you put a 2.0L head on a 1.9L block, which gasket do you use?

[nobody]

what can I say but wow. Come on over and you'd get a big kiss.... or any part you wanted. Your call on which you'd prefer.

Steve that would be the 1979 gasket set, meant for use on a 2.0 piston and 1.9 head. Usually 65 bucks from OGTS and I've never found another source.

Oh and it seems only one set of bolts was stolen, the other set was in a motor I tested them in. too big to carry off and all the torks bits were here at the house so not removed. I'll be building a 1.9 here in the next week or so and be using them.

[asdasc]

Quick Keith, I would choose door # 2!

The more I thought about the other question, I am not sure I even asked the right question. It is a stock 2.0 head, on a 1.9 block bored out to use the Opel 2.0 pistons.

Is there any other difference between a 1970 1.9L block bored to 2.0 and a stock 2.0L block? Under what circumstances can I just call it a 2.0L block and save the long discription?