side draft manifolds

FPManta59 · 02-17-2005

Changing our car from itb to FP. Want to run the allowed weber side drafts, but having trouble finding a supplier of manifolds. Any one know where I can get them or possibly have some laying around collecting dust?

Thanks!!
Ed Funk
itb/fp manta 59

tomking · 02-17-2005

I have a set that I dont think are short enough to fit my GT. So I would probably sell them, I dont recall the brand just now but can check when I get home tonight.

gtracer · 02-17-2005

I too have several dual carb manifolds I can sell. One is a one piece English made unit that is what I ran with dual webers on my FP Opel GT. The other is individual carb (two piece) Cannon that's similar to the Steinmetz "dual" I run in GTLites. If you are interested in either or both contact me at 915-204-3520
or sczacki@utep.edu. I'll be around the phone through the weekend, but will not see email messages till Monday pm.

Stan Czacki

GT_Pheel · 02-17-2005

Can you hold the english set until around March 7th? I'll be back and can arange the payment then. Thanks

Philip

davegt27 · 02-18-2005

I have one set also

carbs would be extra last i checked i had 4 sets of carbs ha ha

davegt27

dasgtnut27@aol.com

FPManta59 · 02-18-2005

So if any of you guys can tell me a price, we might be able to do some business! You can reply here or e-mail to ESLFunk@aol.com or call: home 413 772 6368, work 413 774 5151, fax 413 774 2027

Thanks
Ed

tomking · 02-19-2005

So does anyone have a single manifold they might wish to trade for a double? That is assuming a single will fit the GT without modification?

tomking · 02-19-2005

Here are pictures of my side draft manifolds and brand is Cannon:

FPManta59 · 02-19-2005

uh, never mind, talked to Ernie Bello today, he's sending me three different manifolds to look at and fit around the cage tubes.
Thanks guys!
Ed

RallyBob · 02-20-2005

Originally Posted by FPManta59

uh, never mind, talked to Ernie Bello today, he's sending me three different manifolds to look at and fit around the cage tubes.
Thanks guys!
Ed

Ed, of all the 'off the shelf' manifolds, the TWM and the Magnoletsi flow the best. The Cannons aren't very good stock, but I prepped a set for Ernie years ago pretty radically (welded and ported), and they flowed quite well. If he sends you those and they fit, you'll find the head has to be aggressively ported to work with them, as they are appreciably larger than stock ports. If you have any more questions about them (or other engine prep questions), give me a call on my cell phone if you still have my number. I did a lot of initial R & D for the Opels when they first became eligible for FP.

Bob

opelgt722002 · 02-21-2005

of all the 'off the shelf' manifolds, the TWM and the Magnoletsi flow the best.

Mr. Pierce of Pierce Manifolds mentioned being willing to make a small batch of manifolds for the Opel GT a couple of months ago. No $ was discussed but someone would have to purchase 10 at a time. I would be willing to buy one.

GTJIM · 02-21-2005

Originally Posted by opelgt722002

of all the 'off the shelf' manifolds, the TWM and the Magnoletsi flow the best.

Mr. Pierce of Pierce Manifolds mentioned being willing to make a small batch of manifolds for the Opel GT a couple of months ago. No $ was discussed but someone would have to purchase 10 at a time. I would be willing to buy one.

Pierce Manifolds was the stockist for the "English" Mangoletsi manifolds.

opelgt722002 · 02-21-2005

Pierce Manifolds was the stockist for the "English" Mangoletsi manifolds.

True, but it appears Mangoletsi will not produce anymore of the sidedrafts for a 1.9L Opel GT. Pierce Manifold attempted to obtain one of these for me a couple of months ago. Pierce Manifold purchased the intake manifold business of TWM a
while back and discontinued producing both the Pierce manifold and the TWM manifold for the 1.9L Opel GT engine.

GTJIM · 02-21-2005

Weber and Dell Orto have ceased production of their carburettors too so it looks like finding these items new is going to get harder and harder. We will have to rely upon word of mouth and eBay to find side draft set ups for our Opels! Has anyone used twin 1 3/4" SU carbs on a CIH Opel motor?

RallyBob · 02-21-2005

So we lost TWM, Magnoletsi and Cannon intakes for Opels in one fell swoop? Guess I'll be building my own from now on.

ConreroGT · 03-20-2005

Any of you that run sidedrafts, do you use spring washers or just go with a regular washer and locknut on the manifold studs? I'm using the softmount gaskets.

baz · 03-20-2005

Originally Posted by GTJIM

Weber and Dell Orto have ceased production of their carburettors too so it looks like finding these items new is going to get harder and harder. We will have to rely upon word of mouth and eBay to find side draft set ups for our Opels! Has anyone used twin 1 3/4" SU carbs on a CIH Opel motor?

jim the jags use 2" su's so theres a performance upgrade straight away

baz · 03-20-2005

Originally Posted by ConreroGT

Any of you that run sidedrafts, do you use spring washers or just go with a regular washer and locknut on the manifold studs? I'm using the softmount gaskets.

normal fitting is a thackary washer
its a double wound spring washer to absorb vibration but you dont squash it all the way down so the spring works +nylock nuts

davegt27 · 03-20-2005

wow i had totally forgot about that

my TWM setup had a kinda rubber/washer thing
so the nut tightened against the metal part but the other side of it was rubber

HTH
Davegt27

MICAH1 · 03-20-2005

I have seen a lot of talk on this topic lately which has peaked my interest on improving my GT performance. My Haynes Techbook Weber manual indicates the 40 DCOE 2 for the OPEL GT 1900, however with all these suppliers discontinuing intake manifolds for the single/twin setups, what other intakes are compatible (model number and name) for our cars?

davegt27 · 03-20-2005

saw this the other day

http://www.manifolds.co.za/manifold.htm

HTHs
davegt27

kummel · 04-12-2005

I should chek from this web site for manifolds

http://www.freetechnics.fi/

http://www.kaasutinexpert.fi/

http://www.moposport.fi
They are in finland and sell lots of opel stuff.
Im using Misab intake with my DCOEs

wrench459 · 07-10-2008

Originally Posted by kummel

I should chek from this web site for manifolds

Free Technics

Kokkolan Auto- ja Kaasutinexpertti Dahlqvist Ky

http://www.moposport.fi
They are in finland and sell lots of opel stuff.
Im using Misab intake with my DCOEs

What does Lyhyt mean in English?
Most of the links still work.

02-17-2005	#1 (permalink)
FPManta59 Opeler Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 14	Unanswered: side draft manifolds Changing our car from itb to FP. Want to run the allowed weber side drafts, but having trouble finding a supplier of manifolds. Any one know where I can get them or possibly have some laying around collecting dust? Thanks!! Ed Funk itb/fp manta 59

02-17-2005	#2 (permalink)
tomking tomking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: SW Missouri Posts: 1,287	I have a set that I dont think are short enough to fit my GT. So I would probably sell them, I dont recall the brand just now but can check when I get home tonight. __________________ TMK

02-19-2005	#7 (permalink)
tomking tomking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: SW Missouri Posts: 1,287	So does anyone have a single manifold they might wish to trade for a double? That is assuming a single will fit the GT without modification? __________________ TMK

02-21-2005	#11 (permalink)
opelgt722002 GT Owner Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 229	TWM manifolds of all the 'off the shelf' manifolds, the TWM and the Magnoletsi flow the best. Mr. Pierce of Pierce Manifolds mentioned being willing to make a small batch of manifolds for the Opel GT a couple of months ago. No $ was discussed but someone would have to purchase 10 at a time. I would be willing to buy one. __________________ Bob

02-21-2005	#13 (permalink)
opelgt722002 GT Owner Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 229	Mangoletsi Pierce Manifolds was the stockist for the "English" Mangoletsi manifolds. True, but it appears Mangoletsi will not produce anymore of the sidedrafts for a 1.9L Opel GT. Pierce Manifold attempted to obtain one of these for me a couple of months ago. Pierce Manifold purchased the intake manifold business of TWM a while back and discontinued producing both the Pierce manifold and the TWM manifold for the 1.9L Opel GT engine. __________________ Bob Last edited by opelgt722002; 02-21-2005 at 02:06 PM. Reason: typo

02-17-2005	#3 (permalink)
gtracer Opeler Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 103	I too have several dual carb manifolds I can sell. One is a one piece English made unit that is what I ran with dual webers on my FP Opel GT. The other is individual carb (two piece) Cannon that's similar to the Steinmetz "dual" I run in GTLites. If you are interested in either or both contact me at 915-204-3520 or sczacki@utep.edu. I'll be around the phone through the weekend, but will not see email messages till Monday pm. Stan Czacki

02-18-2005	#5 (permalink)
davegt27 Certified Opelholic Join Date: May 2002 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 936 Real Name: joe blow Provided Answers: 1	I have one set also carbs would be extra last i checked i had 4 sets of carbs ha ha davegt27 dasgtnut27@aol.com

02-18-2005	#6 (permalink)
FPManta59 Opeler Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 14	So if any of you guys can tell me a price, we might be able to do some business! You can reply here or e-mail to ESLFunk@aol.com or call: home 413 772 6368, work 413 774 5151, fax 413 774 2027 Thanks Ed

02-19-2005	#9 (permalink)
FPManta59 Opeler Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 14	uh, never mind, talked to Ernie Bello today, he's sending me three different manifolds to look at and fit around the cage tubes. Thanks guys! Ed

02-21-2005	#14 (permalink)
GTJIM Old Opeler Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,686 Provided Answers: 12	Discontinued Items Weber and Dell Orto have ceased production of their carburettors too so it looks like finding these items new is going to get harder and harder. We will have to rely upon word of mouth and eBay to find side draft set ups for our Opels! Has anyone used twin 1 3/4" SU carbs on a CIH Opel motor? __________________ GTJim Opel Owner since last Century! Copyright © 2000-2009 J D Henry All Rights Reserved

03-20-2005	#16 (permalink)
ConreroGT Senior Contributor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Wa Posts: 659	Manifold stud spring washers? Any of you that run sidedrafts, do you use spring washers or just go with a regular washer and locknut on the manifold studs? I'm using the softmount gaskets.

03-20-2005	#19 (permalink)
davegt27 Certified Opelholic Join Date: May 2002 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 936 Real Name: joe blow Provided Answers: 1	wow i had totally forgot about that my TWM setup had a kinda rubber/washer thing so the nut tightened against the metal part but the other side of it was rubber HTH Davegt27

03-20-2005	#20 (permalink)
MICAH1 101st Airborne Vet V.N. Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Fort Washington, Maryland Posts: 643 Real Name: Thomas Johnson	Side Drafts and their Manifolds I have seen a lot of talk on this topic lately which has peaked my interest on improving my GT performance. My Haynes Techbook Weber manual indicates the 40 DCOE 2 for the OPEL GT 1900, however with all these suppliers discontinuing intake manifolds for the single/twin setups, what other intakes are compatible (model number and name) for our cars?

03-20-2005	#21 (permalink)
davegt27 Certified Opelholic Join Date: May 2002 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 936 Real Name: joe blow Provided Answers: 1	saw this the other day http://www.manifolds.co.za/manifold.htm HTHs davegt27

04-12-2005	#22 (permalink)
kummel Opeler Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Estonia Posts: 30	intake I should chek from this web site for manifolds http://www.freetechnics.fi/ http://www.kaasutinexpert.fi/ http://www.moposport.fi They are in finland and sell lots of opel stuff. Im using Misab intake with my DCOEs

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