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Old 05-15-2009   #1 (permalink)
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Unanswered: SOLO II rules will say no car over 30yrs in stock class

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no cars over 30 years old in stock class

http://www.scca.com/documents/Fastra...pril-final.pdf

scroll down to pg 24

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Interesting. However, I don't think any Opel was in danger of being competitive in stock class anyway for quite a while now.

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Bill your looking at it the wrong way

There are lots of people that after they restore there hot rods will head to the drag strip just to see what there car will do

I think it would be great to have the ability to do the same thing at a solo II event

It’s about having fun

If a competitor wants get serious let them move up to SP or an X class

Hell most of the cool cars are 30 years old or close to it
My Opel GT was close to 20 years old the first time I went to an autocross
I found my first solo II rule book a few weeks ago it said 1991


Nowadays if someone tells me that they race in stock class I laugh
I also hate the idea of turning people away

I saw a real GT 40 at the Texas mile (speed event) could you imagine turning them away just because of its age


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Dave, I agree with you 110%.

I used to be a every weekend type autoXer in the 90's. I never did understand some of the SCCA rules on bumping and how they classed us guys that had the old fun stuff. For example, I used to have a DP Spitfire. I can't tell you how many times there wouldn't be enough DP cars so they would bump us up to BP, with the full race Corvettes! Now I autoXed for fun, not just to win every time, but that sure took alot of the excitement out of it. My GT was even bumped up to the mod class a few times against open wheel formula cars!

Some of my SCCA road race friends have dropped out due to the rule changes that make them uncompetitive and have moved to vintage racing. I guess the answer is a vintage class, even for autoX.

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Just a suggestion

Alot of people have gotten tired of the BS rules that SCCA has been coming up with in the past few years, so most of them have switched to NASA (National Auto Sport Association) just because of that. NASA is still very grassroots oriented and will give everybody no matter the car a chance to race. Check out the site, NASA download the PDF file for rules. They will even help put you in a class based on a simple power to weight ratio setup if your peticular car is not classified. Once im done in the sandbox i will be NASA and VIR bound!

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I can see SCCA's the point. After 30 years how many cars actually are stock anymore by the SoloII rules.
This only applies to Divisional and National SoloII events, btw.
Regional events can have any rules they want.
My local region region address this problem with older non-competitive cars
having to run stock classes by creating an optional Vintage index class
for our older cars. The run with the stock classes but don't compete for the trophies if you chose to run in the Vintage Index classes. Instead you
compete against other old cars and are limited to non-dot competition tires like all season or summer performance tires. It works well for us and sometimes we get several old cars competing. Like the old days when we all ran on our street tires.
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Originally Posted by maganoo82 View Post
Alot of people have gotten tired of the BS rules that SCCA has been coming up with in the past few years, so most of them have switched to NASA (National Auto Sport Association) just because of that. NASA is still very grassroots oriented and will give everybody no matter the car a chance to race. Check out the site, NASA download the PDF file for rules. They will even help put you in a class based on a simple power to weight ratio setup if your peticular car is not classified. Once im done in the sandbox i will be NASA and VIR bound!
Around here they tried NASA a couple of years back, but it pretty much died due to the fact we have strong SCCA regions along with Mustang, Corvette and Porsche
club autocrosses open to guests.
I can see NASA working well in areas of poorly run SCCA regions though.
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