FM radio in Germany spec cars?

73Manta72gt · 11-18-2005

Hi all,

I don't think any of the Opels sold in the US had a FM radio, but did the cars sold in Germany have one any pics or model numbers/manufactures.

Thanks :-)

tekenaar · 11-18-2005

Originally Posted by 73Manta72gt

Hi all,

I don't think any of the Opels sold in the US had a FM radio, but did the cars sold in Germany have one any pics or model numbers/manufactures.

Thanks :-)

Yes, multi-band, twin-shaft, mono radios were available in Germany . . . Grundig, Blaupunkt, Becker and another brand I can't recall, all offered Euro style, typically four band (AM, FM, LW, MW) radios. The LW and MW bands are not transmitted here, so are redundant. AM/FM bands cover the same frequencies as here, but 'period-correct' radios were all mono . . . i.e. single speaker types. That's it in a nutshell!

Motor Mouth · 11-18-2005

Was the other brand Becker.......I do know GM supply Philips these days, or at least they did in the 80's and 90's, but I'm not sure they did the 70's......I wasn't allowed to sit in the front of the car at that time.

opelgtworld · 11-19-2005

The OPEL GT could be ordered in Germany with the following radios:

09/69 - 10/72

Radio Blaupunkt "Hamburg" MW

Radio Blaupunkt "Stuttgart" MW, LW, AM

Radio Blaupunkt "Frankfurt" MW, LW, AM, FM

10/72

Radio Blaupunkt "Münster" MW, FM

Radio Blaupunkt "Frankfurt" MW, LW, AM, FM

tekenaar · 11-19-2005

Originally Posted by Motor Mouth

Was the other brand Becker.......I do know GM supply Philips these days, or at least they did in the 80's and 90's, but I'm not sure they did the 70's......I wasn't allowed to sit in the front of the car at that time.

Yeah, Becker . . . and it's Phillips (Dutch) for the GM brand mentioned.

Originally Posted by opelgtworld

The OPEL GT could be ordered in Germany with the following radios:

09/69 - 10/72

Radio Blaupunkt "Hamburg" MW

Radio Blaupunkt "Stuttgart" MW, LW, AM

Radio Blaupunkt "Frankfurt" MW, LW, AM, FM

10/72

Radio Blaupunkt "Münster" MW, FM

Radio Blaupunkt "Frankfurt" MW, LW, AM, FM

Hmmm . . . but they were all mono, right? Oh, and they only have a blue dot (Blaupunkt) on the dial, no script, right?

opelgtworld · 11-19-2005

Yes, they were all mono have a blue dot (Blaupunkt).

tekenaar · 11-20-2005

Originally Posted by opelgtworld

Yes, they were all mono have a blue dot (Blaupunkt).

Interesting pics . . . my four band only has the blue dot, not the Blaupunkt script.

73Manta72gt · 11-21-2005

Thanks for the info....I'm going to look for one on German ebay

tekenaar · 11-21-2005

opelgtworld,
Would you post a picture of the back of that Frankfurt unit you posted?

It's just for reference. Thanks.

opelgtworld · 11-21-2005

otto, there are so many different versions

73Manta72gt · 11-21-2005

How common are these radios now?...what is a fair price to pay for one?

Thanks

heimue · 11-21-2005

Originally Posted by tekenaar

Yes, multi-band, twin-shaft, mono radios were available in Germany . . . Grundig, Blaupunkt and another brand I can't recall, all offered Euro style, typically four band (AM, FM, LW, MW) radios. The LW and MW bands are not transmitted here, so are redundant. AM/FM bands cover the same frequencies as here, but 'period-correct' radios were all mono . . . i.e. single speaker types.

The correct abbreviations are UKW (Ultra-Kurz-Welle = Ultra-Short-Wave = FM for Frequency-Modulated), MW (Mittelwelle = MediumLength-Wave = AM for Amplitude-Modulated), LW (Langwelle = LongLength-Wave = n/a in USA) and KW (Kurzwelle = ShortLength-Wave = n/a in USA).

Dieter

tekenaar · 11-21-2005

Originally Posted by opelgtworld

otto, there are so many different versions

Mine's like pic #3 and #4 . . . I just need to find the right, back (dummy) knob for it . . . missing so far.

opelgtworld · 11-21-2005

...a good opportunity to attach there a hidden CD Player

tekenaar · 11-22-2005

Originally Posted by opelgtworld

...a good opportunity to attach there a hidden CD Player

Begs the question, you wouldn't happen to know the pin-outs (what pins are used for) of that six pin DIN plug on the back now, would you?

opelgtworld · 11-22-2005

Otto, the DIN plugs are standardized:

http://www.epicenter.de/informatione...diostecker.htm

Killer Texas GT · 11-22-2005

Originally Posted by tekenaar

Mine's like pic #3 and #4 . . . I just need to find the right, back (dummy) knob for it . . . missing so far.

That would make it out of a 1969 GT-J correct?

I know that dummy is here in my shop somewhere and I will find it, by the way did you find those lifters yet?

tekenaar · 11-23-2005

Originally Posted by opelgtworld

Otto, the DIN plugs are standardized:

http://www.epicenter.de/informatione...diostecker.htm

5-pin DIN, yes . . . 6-pin DIN, like the one used on Frankfurt, is not standard, as far as I know, at least not here. That's why I asked for pin-outs.

No luck on the lifters yet, Rodney . . . been looking though.

Motor Mouth · 11-23-2005

Originally Posted by Killer Texas GT

That would make it out of a 1969 GT-J correct

Sorry the GT/J came from 71 onwards, so it must be something else.

73Manta72gt · 01-26-2006

I just got a Frankfurt off German ebay...Does anyone have or know the style of speaker connector used on this radio...it looks like a connector with two round pins about 3mm diameter and 13mm spacing.

Thanks

tekenaar · 01-26-2006

Originally Posted by 73Manta72gt

I just got a Frankfurt off German ebay...Does anyone have or know the style of speaker connector used on this radio...it looks like a connector with two round pins about 3mm diameter and 13mm spacing.

Thanks

Two standard individual 'banana plugs', one plus (sound), other ground for both radio and speaker, and available at Radio Shack (red/black plugs).

73Manta72gt · 04-13-2008

Took two years, but I got the Blaupunkt installed it sounds good for a mono radio. It would look better if the dash hadn't of been cut out so much below the radio.

tekenaar · 04-13-2008

Originally Posted by 73Manta72gt

Took two years, but I got the Blaupunkt installed it sounds good for a mono radio. It would look better if the dash hadn't of been cut out so much below the radio.

I have the same radio right now in my Kadett . . . how accurately do your FM (U) bands indicate on the dial?

hrcollinsjr · 04-13-2008

Originally Posted by 73Manta72gt

Took two years, but I got the Blaupunkt installed it sounds good for a mono radio. It would look better if the dash hadn't of been cut out so much below the radio.

Did you get a chance to look at the one I received at the AutoFair, a Super Le Mans? It looks very similar to yours and is also mono, I thought it was stereo when I bid on it. It has 6 presets, 1 more than yours.

Dieter went to Germany to pick it up for me and then Phoenix aka. Tony hand delivered it to me. Can't beat that kind of service anywhere.

Don't know how it sounds, I have an Opel or two that need to be assembled sitting around.

Harold

73Manta72gt · 04-13-2008

i didn't get to see it..maybe you will have it installed and drive down in Sept? It's nice to have FM in the GT.

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11-19-2005	#4 (permalink)
opelgtworld www.opelgtworld.de Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 327	The OPEL GT could be ordered in Germany with the following radios: 09/69 - 10/72 Radio Blaupunkt "Hamburg" MW Radio Blaupunkt "Stuttgart" MW, LW, AM Radio Blaupunkt "Frankfurt" MW, LW, AM, FM 10/72 Radio Blaupunkt "Münster" MW, FM Radio Blaupunkt "Frankfurt" MW, LW, AM, FM __________________ "Man kann ein Auto nicht wie ein menschliches Wesen behandeln - ein Auto braucht Liebe. (Walter Röhrl)"

11-21-2005	#9 (permalink)
tekenaar Cunning Linguist Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Plano, TX 75074 Posts: 4,441 Real Name: Otto Provided Answers: 13	Post another pic of the back? opelgtworld, Would you post a picture of the back of that Frankfurt unit you posted? It's just for reference. Thanks. __________________ 1960: ♥ '61 Rekord PII 1.7 3S 3.9 ♥ '69 Kadett LS 'sprint' 1.9 3A 3.18 1970: ♥ '70 GT 1.9 4S 3.44 ♥ '72 GT 2.2SSD 5S 3.44 ♥ '72 GT 2.4FI 5S 3.44P ♥ '73 GT 1.9FI 4S 3.44 ♥ '75 1900 1.9FI 4S 3.44 1980: ♥ '85 Bitter SC 3.9FI 5S 3.44P 2000: ♥ '09 Solstice GXP Coupe 2.0 SIDI VVT Turbo 5S 3.73P

11-21-2005	#14 (permalink)
opelgtworld www.opelgtworld.de Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 327	...a good opportunity to attach there a hidden CD Player __________________ "Man kann ein Auto nicht wie ein menschliches Wesen behandeln - ein Auto braucht Liebe. (Walter Röhrl)"

11-21-2005	#8 (permalink)
73Manta72gt Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winston-Salem, NC Posts: 341	Thanks for the info....I'm going to look for one on German ebay

11-21-2005	#11 (permalink)
73Manta72gt Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winston-Salem, NC Posts: 341	How common are these radios now?...what is a fair price to pay for one? Thanks

11-22-2005	#16 (permalink)
opelgtworld www.opelgtworld.de Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 327	Otto, the DIN plugs are standardized: http://www.epicenter.de/informatione...diostecker.htm __________________ "Man kann ein Auto nicht wie ein menschliches Wesen behandeln - ein Auto braucht Liebe. (Walter Röhrl)"

01-26-2006	#20 (permalink)
73Manta72gt Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winston-Salem, NC Posts: 341	I just got a Frankfurt off German ebay...Does anyone have or know the style of speaker connector used on this radio...it looks like a connector with two round pins about 3mm diameter and 13mm spacing. Thanks

04-13-2008	#25 (permalink)
73Manta72gt Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winston-Salem, NC Posts: 341	missed it i didn't get to see it..maybe you will have it installed and drive down in Sept? It's nice to have FM in the GT.

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