Difference between Opel and BMW Getrag 240 5-Speeds
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    Difference between Opel and BMW Getrag 240 5-Speeds

    I am looking to install a 5 speed transmission in my GT...I had one in my last GT and loved it...I see ones listed on EBAY but they all seem to be from BMW 318 cars....is there a different bellhousing on the ones for the OPEL ? I was wondering if the transmission is just from Opels in Europe ? do I have to look for one on European EBAY...

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    The manufacturers who employ the Getrag 240 have specific transmission cases to fit their engine application. On the Opel 4 speed, the bell housing can be removed separate from the transmission gearcase. On the 240 Getrag, the bellhousing and case are one peice.

    I am under the impression that the internals of the transmission are the same. But I have yet to come across a thread here where a person has proven this to be true in real life applications; ie, using a BMW or Volvo Getrag 240 transmission internal gear assembly and assembling it in the Opel-specific case.

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    Lt Colombo moment: The Getrag 240's made so popular in the GT's all came from Europe in whatever Opel it resided in at that time. I'm curious too, as to whoever was the first person to make this installation and got the Opel GT Getrag ball rolling. That person needs to go into the Opel GT Hall of Fame!

    Gil at Opel GT Source has been getting them for a very long time now and making kits for the GT installation made so much easier for the home enthusiast....
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    Yes, But Gil does not have any in stock at this time

    I sent Gil a note last week and he told me that they are getting hard to find and he was out of stock of the transmissions at this time......I do see that Opel Unlimited has them listed in their catalog...

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    Yes, the BMW and Opel Getrag 240's have different cases. The bell housing for the BMW 240 won't mate up to a CIH. Charles Goin (Goin Manta) sometimes has Getrag 240's for sale and he did just get a crate from Europe that had some Getrag 240's. I'm not sure if he has already sold them. They are getting harder to find in Europe but still possible right now.

    The only economical way to import a Getrag is to bring in a crate of parts. This is the whole reason why Charles started doing this. He would buy a bunch of 2.0's, 2.2's and 2.4's with some Getrags and have a large crate shipped to his house. Then he would unpack everything, and individually ship whatever you purchased on USPS shipping pallets. The USPS shipping pallets aren't exactly easy to get, but they make shipping heavy objects easy. I will never get rid of mine.

    To buy a Getrag and have it shipped here, would likely cost $2k or more by the time you get it. And that is assuming you buy it from someone willing to package it for international shipping and then bring it somewhere to be shipped. Shipping it will be a bigger issue than finding one for sale in Europe.

    Good luck with your search, your best hope is that someone in the US has one for sale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Autoholic View Post
    The only economical way to import a Getrag is to bring in a crate of parts.

    To buy a Getrag and have it shipped here, would likely cost $2k or more by the time you get it. And that is assuming you buy it from someone willing to package it for international shipping and then bring it somewhere to be shipped. Shipping it will be a bigger issue than finding one for sale in Europe.
    A few years ago one of our members here went to Germany on vacation and while there, bought a Getrag 240, drained the oil, put it in a suitcase and brought it back as extra checked baggage on his return flight. Cost was $50 for an extra bag fee. Obviously, this was before today's airline fees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpringGT View Post
    A few years ago one of our members here went to Germany on vacation and while there, bought a Getrag 240, drained the oil, put it in a suitcase and brought it back as extra checked baggage on his return flight. Cost was $50 for an extra bag fee. Obviously, this was before today's airline fees.
    That's funny and clever. Today there would be an overweight fee, if they even allowed it. Still might be cheaper than paying for shipping and handling, if you exclude the cost of flying to Germany for a transmission to justify your trip. All things considered, it would still be worth it to pay a little more and get a trip to Germany out of it. Honey, I've got a great Valentine's day idea. Let's go to Paris and Germany for a romantic holiday! And we'll get some new luggage while we're there... and a transmission.

    This makes me wonder what kind of funny things people have placed on their customs paperwork when you enter America. I'm sure every now and then, something is written down that makes anyone who reads it laugh.
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    To add more to the story, Opel used 2 different bell house patterns for the Getrag transmission. The later model Manta B had a 1.8 OHC engine with 5 speed. This is the model that modifiers used for installing the C20XE red top into RWD cars as gearbox, sump & engine mounts are direct fit from 1.8 OHC to 2.0 Dohc engine. Block is same pattern. This did lead to a steady supply of 2.0CIH engines and 5 speed gearboxes for a time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpringGT View Post
    A few years ago one of our members here went to Germany on vacation and while there, bought a Getrag 240, drained the oil, put it in a suitcase and brought it back as extra checked baggage on his return flight. Cost was $50 for an extra bag fee. Obviously, this was before today's airline fees.
    I brought my first Getrag from Germany in a Wal-Mart hockey bag. At that time I was travelling for business extensively, racking well over 100,000 air miles per year which qualified me for Lufthansa’s Senator Gold card. The weight of the hockey bag was 63 lbs, just under 65 lbs limit allowed to elite with Senator Gold card. I checked at Josef Strauss Munich international airport at special check-in counter for the Senator elite dignitaries. They literally had red carpet in front of the counter. To my horror, I noticed that the transmission started to leak some oil, spreading unforgettable smell of used gear oil. No question asked, they accepted the bag and the transmission happily arrived to Canada. That transmission turned to be really sweet and I drove it during several seasons, then sold it to late Brad and bought newly rebuilt one from Gil.

    The same hockey bag travelled with me back and forth, bringing at various times: 2.0 cylinder head, four Ronal rims, four ATS rims, Irmscher vented brakes and finally 2.2 cylinder head. I still have the bag somewhere. It still reeks of gear oil.
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    At time the Getrag 240 are realy hard to get!!!
    I sent a 240 to the USA last November with TNT/Fedex.Cost was 175,00 Euro!

    Here in Germany most Opeler used the BMW Getrag 240 inside parts for rebuild the Opel Getrag 240!
    There is a real diffence BMW vs Opel in Quality by the material at all

    I have still a Getrag 240 for Opel Cih engine for sale!
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    Quote Originally Posted by clarkey View Post
    To add more to the story, Opel used 2 different bell house patterns for the Getrag transmission. The later model Manta B had a 1.8 OHC engine with 5 speed. This is the model that modifiers used for installing the C20XE red top into RWD cars as gearbox, sump & engine mounts are direct fit from 1.8 OHC to 2.0 Dohc engine. Block is same pattern. This did lead to a steady supply of 2.0CIH engines and 5 speed gearboxes for a time.
    The OHC Getrags can also be found in a 90hp 18S or a 100hp 18i Rekord E.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P.J. Romano View Post
    I brought my first Getrag from Germany in a Wal-Mart hockey bag. At that time I was travelling for business extensively, racking well over 100,000 air miles per year which qualified me for Lufthansa’s Senator Gold card. The weight of the hockey bag was 63 lbs, just under 65 lbs limit allowed to elite with Senator Gold card. I checked at Josef Strauss Munich international airport at special check-in counter for the Senator elite dignitaries. They literally had red carpet in front of the counter. To my horror, I noticed that the transmission started to leak some oil, spreading unforgettable smell of used gear oil. No question asked, they accepted the bag and the transmission happily arrived to Canada. That transmission turned to be really sweet and I drove it during several seasons, then sold it to late Brad and bought newly rebuilt one from Gil.

    The same hockey bag travelled with me back and forth, bringing at various times: 2.0 cylinder head, four Ronal rims, four ATS rims, Irmscher vented brakes and finally 2.2 cylinder head. I still have the bag somewhere. It still reeks of gear oil.
    The guy that I was thinking about was Opelenvy, a Texas Opeler, so that means that at least two members here have pulled off this maneuver. Nice work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrapose View Post
    I am looking to install a 5 speed transmission in my GT...
    I had one in my last GT and loved it... I see ones listed on EBAY but they all seem to be from BMW 318 cars....
    Is there a different bellhousing on the ones for the OPEL ?
    I was wondering if the transmission is just from Opels in Europe ? Do I have to look for one on European EBAY...

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by P.J. Romano View Post
    I brought my first Getrag from Germany in a Wal-Mart hockey bag. At that time I was travelling for business extensively, racking well over 100,000 air miles per year which qualified me for Lufthansa’s Senator Gold card. The weight of the hockey bag was 63 lbs, just under 65 lbs limit allowed to elite with Senator Gold card. I checked at Josef Strauss Munich international airport at special check-in counter for the Senator elite dignitaries. They literally had red carpet in front of the counter. To my horror, I noticed that the transmission started to leak some oil, spreading unforgettable smell of used gear oil. No question asked, they accepted the bag and the transmission happily arrived to Canada. That transmission turned to be really sweet and I drove it during several seasons, then sold it to late Brad and bought newly rebuilt one from Gil.

    The same hockey bag travelled with me back and forth, bringing at various times: 2.0 cylinder head, four Ronal rims, four ATS rims, Irmscher vented brakes and finally 2.2 cylinder head. I still have the bag somewhere. It still reeks of gear oil.
    Stories like these need to be put into the Blitz! It would be cool to have a section of the Blitz where someone tells an interesting or funny story about their journey in or for an Opel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Autoholic View Post
    Stories like these need to be put into the Blitz! It would be cool to have a section of the Blitz where someone tells an interesting or funny story about their journey in or for an Opel.
    I remember Rainer do nearly the same and bring a hot cih heat, only with a shoulder belt in the plane over the pond.A nice cabine hand lugage with no extra fees


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lindsay View Post
    Another Option?
    https://www.opelgt.com/forums/clutch...ml#post1355106
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    As well as the GM T5 transmission swap found in my "GITT" thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by First opel 1981 View Post
    As well as the GM T5 transmission swap found in my "GITT" thread.
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    Back in 04, my son was stationed in Germany. I bought a bunch of BMW parts on German ebay that just happened to be close to him.

    He had it all shipped home with his personal property when he came home. No charge.

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