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    I wanted a modern fuse box in my GT, so I purchased a 12 circuit and tried to follow the instructions that Charles Goin shared, step by step. No problems right? Wrong. I found out quickly that I was in over my head. I tried several different ways to get it back together, but none of them worked. So when I was at a car show (minimal wiring so it would run) I asked one of the "big" buys if he did wiring. His response was "I hate it, but I do it". I let him have my car, he said it was going to cost a lot of dollars to fix it right. I said, I don't care, just fix it. Well it was subcontracted to a guy that specialises in wiring, he got a lot of money and spent more time than I paid for. He was looking for work and needed something to hold him over, so that was the project. The best phone call I ever got was my mechanic saying that it was finished and everything was working the way it is designed to. So I am going back to Kool April Nites in Redding, CA. This is where I met my mechanic (he only does classic cars and was an Opel mechanic for probably five years). The moral of the story is, if you are not absolutely sure you have the skills to rewire a car, give it to the professionals. Yes it cost money, but in my case, they had to clean up my mess, then start from scratch.

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    Love your story Bob..

    I was in Reno yesterday...and returned my Painless wiring kit to Summit... thought I could do it....read that book in the kit and tried to understand Charles instructions.....decided I was way over my head...think I will clean and redo my old unit... life is short enough..

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    I think I should add from my experience so far, don't take apart your GT. Any of it. Just keep driving it as much as you can. Once you start down the slippery slope of enhancing, upgrading etc the red mist comes down and rational thought checks out. Simple choices become impossible and I change my mind quicker than the Irish weather.

    From deep down the rabbit hole,
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    Quote Originally Posted by clarkey View Post
    I think I should add from my experience so far, don't take apart your GT. Any of it. Just keep driving it as much as you can. Once you start down the slippery slope of enhancing, upgrading etc the red mist comes down and rational thought checks out. Simple choices become impossible and I change my mind quicker than the Irish weather.

    From deep down the rabbit hole,
    James.
    Sooooo true!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by clarkey View Post
    I think I should add from my experience so far, don't take apart your GT. Any of it. Just keep driving it as much as you can. Once you start down the slippery slope of enhancing, upgrading etc the red mist comes down and rational thought checks out. Simple choices become impossible and I change my mind quicker than the Irish weather.

    From deep down the rabbit hole,
    James.
    Yeah man. Don't touch the dang things. Run'em until they don't go anymore and leave them on the side of the road and just walk away. One repair leads to another repair, which leads to a fix up, then an improvement, then an enhancement, possibly a refurbishment, definitely an upgrade, then chromification and polishificanity.

    I never touch my daily drivers. I don't pop their hoods for years at a time. They never break or cost me money.

    My GT's hood only stays latched during the rare times I actually drive it. As soon as I park it I pop the hood, be it at a car show or in my garage. That fluffin' car has cost me tens of thousands.
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    Working on my GT, many times I cursed lack of space and inaccessibility of various components but comparing with modern cars it is easy car to work on. I was thinking to replace serpentine belt on my Volvo XC70 that made only 60,000 miles but better safe than sorry (I thought). Well, in order to replace serpentine belt you have to do the following:

    1. Remove the battery
    2. Remove battery box
    3. Remove engine cover
    4. Remove air filter and ir filter box
    5. Remove idler pulley
    6. Remove power steering pump
    7. Remove A/C compressor
    8. Remove tensioner

    It is 2-3 hours job before you even get to the belt! The video shows the procedure on Land Rover which is using identical Volvo 3.2 engine.

    Rewinding the GT’s window cable is a breeze comparing to this.

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    Ha Ha these stories are funny,hoping I'll learn something,but I bet I try taking it apart anyways!

    Like the time I saw my poor GT-windshield washer motor sitting there with the plastic
    coating coming off the wires, so I thought I could take it apart and re-wire it while doing a nice
    paint job. Cracked that baby apart springs sprung,plastic pieces inside it crumbled as I touched them !
    Sheesh !
    Thank you Gil for having one on his shelve,he saved me a major headache lol
    Michael
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    It was in the early 80s and I was a relief tire/alignment store manager working in beautiful El Centro, CA. My car at the time was a 78 VW Scirocco and it had a torn boot on a CV joint. Well, being El Centro, there was no business so I put my car on the rack and pulled the front axle and CV joint. Took the joint apart, cleaned it, and spent the next four hours trying to get it back together. It was worrying that I had no other way to get home to San Diego. Finally I called the nearest VW dealer and had a guy take the CV joint over there. The mechanic there just popped it back together in two seconds flat and fixed me up fine. I swear it was magic, nothing I tried (including RTFM) would allow it to be reassembled. To this day I wish I knew what he did to put it back together.
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    PJ just be glad you don't own a Ferrari F355. Every 3 years or 15,000 miles the engine needs new timing belts. Due to the design of this vehicle, you have to drop the engine out of the car to access the timing belt covers. The actual replacement of the timing belts is pretty quick. But to get the engine out takes several hours, a lift and something to hold the engine / transaxle / rear end subframe... and then you have to reinstall it. I know of at least 1 F355 where the owner modified the vehicle to eliminate this problem. He modified the firewall to have access covers. Right in front of the firewall is the fuel tank. So, he drops the fuel tank and then removes the access covers. Engine never leaves the vehicle.

    I swear engineers at car manufacturers must be instructed to design their cars so incredibly complex that people have to go to a dealer to service them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Autoholic View Post
    PJ just be glad you don't own a Ferrari F355. Every 3 years or 15,000 miles the engine needs new timing belts. Due to the design of this vehicle, you have to drop the engine out of the car to access the timing belt covers. The actual replacement of the timing belts is pretty quick. But to get the engine out takes several hours, a lift and something to hold the engine / transaxle / rear end subframe... and then you have to reinstall it. I know of at least 1 F355 where the owner modified the vehicle to eliminate this problem. He modified the firewall to have access covers. Right in front of the firewall is the fuel tank. So, he drops the fuel tank and then removes the access covers. Engine never leaves the vehicle.

    I swear engineers at car manufacturers must be instructed to design their cars so incredibly complex that people have to go to a dealer to service them.
    I would expect this from a Ferrari. My friend had to have the leaking oil pan replaced on his 2010 F-250 pickup. Seems simple. Just replace the pan. $3000 later, after having to remove the cab to get the engine out, no more leak. Ouch.
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    Taking things apart is a disease that started in my childhood. I will always remember when I took apart my parent’s wind-up alarm clock. There was no way in hell that I could put it back together, so I put all gears and everything in a plastic bag and took it to the clockmaker down the street (clockmakers still existed then). He laughed loudly and did not charge me anything for re-assembling the damn thing.

    I replaced the headlight cable on my GT the other day. With the car on a jackstands, I had to crawl under and access two small screws through 1" space between transmission and the frame rail. Clutch cable spring is on the way as well, thank you. There is a tiny security clip that must be re-inserted without visual line to the hole in the ball joint. You keep trying and it is the matter of luck will it take 5 minutes or the whole day. I swear I wished I could put everything in a plastic bag and take it somewhere to be put together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timbo View Post
    I would expect this from a Ferrari. My friend had to have the leaking oil pan replaced on his 2010 F-250 pickup. Seems simple. Just replace the pan. $3000 later, after having to remove the cab to get the engine out, no more leak. Ouch.
    I think the older Jag's XRK Car's the 12 cylinder ones. To do Replace rear brake rotors/brakes, need to drop entire rear end axles
    As the Rotors are mounted inboard from the wheels, Take half the car apart to repair the brakes..... must be a British thing , everything nuts and bolts


    I find having two GT's makes it a little easier to reassembly projects, as there always a model GT to refer back to for references
    also being a Opel Addict / Opelitus there always a nice GT to jump into when you lose your patience

    In my opinion if your just starting out, Go slow... One project at a time... Finish one at a time, even if you know car going to be taken apart for paint shop...
    or you will get Overwhelmed and not come back for long time Just my Opinion Folks.
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    Danged if this job isn't a b***h!

    I've got 10 pages of notes, am looking at two circuit diagrams, and I have two reference harnesses and fuse boxes to work with and ... installation is not the reverse of removal.

    There's no way I am going to be able to stuff those wire bundles through the slot in the rear of the box. I am going to have to separate the bundles. So far it looks like I won't have to cut any wires, but I will have to pull wires from the colored connectors. I'll need to draw this up before I start in on it.

    Mind you most of the work is done on my back, in the foot-well, with a small flashlight in my mouth.

    Mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by m610 View Post

    There's no way I am going to be able to stuff those wire bundles through the slot in the rear of the box.

    MAKE...THE...HOLE...BIGGER.


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    Not sure how this applies to the original thread, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lindsay View Post
    Can't remove the buzzards in Hinkley, Ohio.

    HINCKLEY TOWNSHIP, Ohio -- Dozens of buzzards and throngs of spectators migrated to Hinckley Township on Sunday (March 17) to mark the beginning of spring and the 62nd anniversary of Buzzard Day.
    The legend of the Great Hinckley Hunt began in 1818, when more than 400 men gathered to hunt the predators that were feasting on the settlers’ livestock. The fresh kills attracted flocks of buzzards.
    The tradition -- if not the hunting -- continues to this day.
    In 1957, the press began reporting that the buzzards returned to Hinckley each year on March 15. On that Sunday, the 17th -- like this year coinciding with St. Patrick’s Day -- 9,000 visitors showed up to greet the birds. Buzzard enthusiasts have loyally returned year after year.
    This year, a full schedule of family-oriented activities provided interest and entertainment for the guests.
    Following the first official sighting of a Hinckley buzzard at 7:58 a.m. on Friday the 15th, buzzard watchers traveled to Hinckley Reservation near the corner of Bellus and State roads to view the turkey vultures wheeling above the rock cliffs.
    According to Min Kirby, manager of the Brecksville Nature Center in the Cleveland Metroparks, by noon on Sunday, more than 12 turkey vultures -- buzzards -- had been spotted.
    In Brongers Park in Hinckley, Taryn Leach and Karen Sandstorm, both volunteers at the Medina County Raptor Center, held live vultures on their gloved hands so that people could get a close-up look at the birds. Leach held Paris, a vulture that had been pelted with rocks and sticks by children in Cleveland in 2008. The bird suffered permanent brain damage and is unable to return to the wild.
    Vickie and I live 45 minutes from Hinckley and believe me - it's a real thing! I guess when you live in Northern Ohio, anything that makes you think winter is coming to an end is something to celebrate!

    Allen & Vickie Gage
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    Mike, mike, mike, mike,mike,

    Most of us (maybe all) have been EXACTLY where you are at! I have found the older I get, the harder it is to get there, and so damn hard to get out!

    Paul in Mi

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    Add this to the list... (photo)

    The chances of breaking something when you take it out are not insignificant. The chances of breaking something putting it back in are substantial. The chances something else will go wrong, not work, you forget to do, are.. it's not a matter of chance, it's a certainty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by m610 View Post

    Mind you most of the work is done on my back, in the foot-well, with a small flashlight in my mouth.

    Mike
    I’d recommend a headlamp. Makes stuff like this a bit easier.
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