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    Quote Originally Posted by The Scifi Guy View Post

    The GTX has a one-wire alternator and they need constant 12V or they will loose their magnetic charge and stop working. My electronic dash could also lose it's set up memory settings. And, of course, my stereo would lose presets and other set up parameters. So, I'm not a good candidate for a disconnect.

    That is the reason why modern car have a second batterie. But you wrote a long time ago you want also a second one, special for car shows! So you have a next project beside the Wagon.
    Its good when the stereo play and the engine have no power

    Btw. The Solstice,Sky and New GT have also the problem with lose batterie clamps.Remember

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    Need George Opel Jump Starter to remember?
    Battery in picture is getting old. Needs new battery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by norbertone.gt371 View Post
    That is the reason why modern car have a second batterie. But you wrote a long time ago you want also a second one, special for car shows! So you have a next project beside the Wagon.
    Its good when the stereo play and the engine have no power

    Btw. The Solstice,Sky and New GT have also the problem with lose batterie clamps.Remember
    I have always had battery trouble with my GT's. 40 years and dozens of batteries. When I drove my yellow one every day it was not so bad, I could go a whole year or two without replacing my battery! The disconnect helped ALOT.

    Don't forget, I bought that Genius Start jump starter because I kill batteries so often.

    I should install a trap door on a switch in my belly pan so I can just drop the dead one out the bottom of the car while I'm driving and have a new one drop into place!

    Or maybe fill the Das Boot trailer with batteries! Finally, a good use for the thing!


    I scrubbed and wire brushed my terminals and cable clamps with one of those battery terminal scrubber things and did some reconfiguring in that area. My stainless battery box was too tight ever since I put the 14" radiator fan in and I couldn't work in the battery area at all without a lot of cussing and back stress, so I cut it smaller with my angle grinder. I scratched the car all up trying the get the cover out of the car. I tightened my terminals almost to the point of snapping the bolts, too. Both the battery and the one-piece battery wires are virtually brand new, so the scrubbing didn't visually change anything.

    Today is the moment of truth. I will install new plugs, drive to the gas station and fill up, and then start driving. I still have to fine tune the timing of the engine after installing the Pertronix, so I'll be on the side of the road tweaking my dizzy from time to time. All I can do is hope for no troubles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lindsay View Post
    Maybe we (myself included) need to install a battery cut-off switch?
    I like to disconnect battery ground wire when the GT is stored or wrenched.

    Flaming River FR1002 Battery Disconnect Switch with Mounting Bracket:
    The Little Switch is rated at 100 amps continuous service and 500 amps for 10 second surges making it ideal for street rods, classics and passenger cars. In addition to preventing battery drain, this unique switch is also a cost effective anti-theft device. A rubber boot seals the neck from moisture and dirt. Competition approved by IMSA, ARCA, and SCCA.

    Made in USA
    Inexpensive Anti-theft Device
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    Granted this is pretty cool and appears to do the job, but to me it's just something else to go wrong or mess up. The "old fashioned way", disconnect the neg terminal, is cheaper and more cost effective than the above. Face it I'm a cheap S.O.B, now add the Grumpy, set in his ways, cantakerous, hardheaded, old man, (last 5 courtesy of son's girlfriend) and that's me folks. (Don't ask me what I call her). Jarrell
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Scifi Guy View Post
    Today is the moment of truth. I will install new plugs, drive to the gas station and fill up, and then start driving. I still have to fine tune the timing of the engine after installing the Pertronix, so I'll be on the side of the road tweaking my dizzy from time to time. All I can do is hope for no troubles.
    It'll work. Have faith. FWIW, the old mechanic that showed me the ropes around Opel engines, said "Time it running at idle 10 degrees in "The hole" meaning 10 degrees BTDC. Never had a problem, but I don't have as much going on as you do. It will work, just stick around home so someone can pull you in, if needs be, Jarrell
    You lose your dreams, you lose your mind. (The Rolling Stones)

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    Quote Originally Posted by soybean View Post
    I'm a cheap S.O.B, now add the Grumpy, set in his ways, cantakerous, hardheaded, old man, (last 5 courtesy of son's girlfriend) and that's me folks. (Don't ask me what I call her). Jarrell
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Scifi Guy View Post
    Huggy Bear Candy Lips Sugar Booty?

    Muffin Top, or Bisquit eater. Top two. Gotta be from down south to understand the both. There are other words, but with the fact that there are ladies on the board, I won't post what I say. Jarrell
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    Reminds me of the good ol days of computer support.

    Someone calls in, complaining their computer is broke.

    They start with
    I replaced the ram, nothing
    I replaced the fan, nothing
    I replaced the cpu chip, nothing
    I bought a new mouse and keyboard, nothing
    I even bought a new monitor. Still nothing...

    After 15 minutes of troubleshooting there'd be that moment of clarity...

    What happens if you flip the switch on the power strip?

    Morale of the story.... Look for the simplest thing first.
    Opel GTs are not GM products
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    I hope you got it Gordo, keeping my fingers crossed 🤞 drive the ****e out of it, let us know

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    SOYBEAN, your message box is full. All is well! Hope to hear from you soon.


    Well, bad news folks. I put new plugs in this morning and went for drives to set the timing right and filled up my tank. The car started right off with the stumbling and bucking. It seemed to go away as it warmed up, but I could still hear a rough intermittent run. I did my test drives and zeroed in on decent timing, but still had funny behavior with various forms and durations of sputtering or missing.

    So, I took my car to a local Opel specialist's shop today(Yes, there still are Opel specialists who still run shops) and he said things don't sound good. I may have a stuck UP hydraulic lifter. I had been suspecting a COLLAPSING lifter for quite some time, but not one that gets stuck in the up position. This could mean that I have ruined a lobe on my cam.

    I have to do compression tests and look at my freshly installed plugs for clues.

    I need to walk away from all this until after Carlisle and enjoy some vacation time. I'm burnt out from unsolvable machine problems at work and the relentlessness of troubleshooting machines all day every day. Right now, I don't need this damn mystery glitch to keep spoiling my attitude.


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    [/QUOTE] I need to walk away from all this until after Carlisle and enjoy some vacation time. I'm burnt out from unsolvable machine problems at work and the relentlessness of troubleshooting machines all day every day. Right now, I don't need this damn mystery glitch to keep spoiling my attitude.

    [/QUOTE]

    Yep, A weekend off, and enjoy some vacation time. It will still be there when you get back. You'll probably have a fresh perspective after being away. Have a good time, drink one for me. (I wish I could.) Jarrell
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    A valve/lifter stuck open won't necessarily damage a camshaft.

    I'm surprised, though, that it wouldn't contact the piston.
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    Thought you had it Gordo! Hope it ends up being an easy fix.

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    I did a compression test and got these results:

    #1 - 185

    #2 - 210

    #3 - 215

    #4 - 210

    These are pictures of the plugs that were in the car for the last 5000 miles:


    5000 mile plugs (1).jpg5000 mile plugs (2).jpg5000 mile plugs (3).jpg5000 mile plugs (4).jpg

    These are the pics of the plugs I put in this morning, they only have 15 miles on them:

    15 mile plugs (1).jpg15 mile plugs (2).jpg15 mile plugs (3).jpg15 mile plugs (4).jpg

    Clearly I'm running too rich on cylinders 1+2 or something else is going on. #2 has always been consistently solid black over the past 3 years.

    Keep in mind before you diagnose, a side draft carb has 2 barrels that each act like a solo carb, each barrel doesn't care one bit what the other barrel is doing and acts independently. I have a Steinmetz single side draft manifold in a Siamese configuration, which means each of the barrels on my carb services either 1+2 or 3+4. A Midikit SSD manifold is a semi-Siamese configuration in that it has a shared plenum that all 4 cylinders draw from and the suction from the engine affects both barrels simultaneously, like a down draft carb. My set up dedicates one carb barrel to 2 cylinders, each barrel acts like a solo carb servicing 2 cylinders.
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    I'm so pissed off!

    Don’t worry about the plugs in my opinion. They are pretty close, but 1-2 are quite rich. I’d recommend opening up the air screw on the top of that barrel. That’s what it’s for is to slightly lean out those cylinders to match the others.
    The idle mixture screw might also need some adjusting 1/8 to 1/4 turn in only, but that only effects idle. If you tested your spark plugs at cruise, the air adjustment screw is your man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Scifi Guy View Post
    SOYBEAN, your message box is full. All is well! Hope to hear from you soon.
    Mail box is clear now,Jarrell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knorm65 View Post
    Don’t worry about the plugs in my opinion. They are pretty close, but 1-2 are quite rich. I’d recommend opening up the air screw on the top of that barrel. That’s what it’s for is to slightly lean out those cylinders to match the others.
    The idle mixture screw might also need some adjusting 1/8 to 1/4 turn in only, but that only effects idle. If you tested your spark plugs at cruise, the air adjustment screw is your man.
    Kyler or someone, could you please show me in a pic where this air screw is that you're talking about?

    I've looked through my Weber books and can't determine what you're talking about.


    Posts since yesterday on Facebook and here have me leaning in an entirely new direction in regards to my problem: Carbon deposits.

    I'm probably running rich across the board, but especially so on cylinders 1+2, and even more especially on #2. This seems to make sense and is worth looking into. I used to regularly apply a carbon removing product on my long time 225K miles GT and it ran like a kitten when I sold it. I used a product that you just poured into the carb and I was under the impression that it was mostly water.

    I googled some carbon removing videos and basically found two that suggested CRC spray or Seafoam. The procedure for the CRC seems to be to spray a whole can of CRC into the engine while it's running at operating temperature and let it run for a minute, then shut off and let the stuff remaining in the engine system try to slowly loosen and dissolve any remaining carbon deposits, then restart and take it out on the highway to blow the funk out. I don't know the procedure for Seafoam, I'll read the bottle.

    I only have 24 hours before I would have to leave for Carlisle, so I don't have much time to wait for feedback from you guys, so I'm going to go to the store and buy both products and nuke the heck out of my engine with them. Hopefully, I'll get a meaningful change with my problem......

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    Gordo declares chemical warfare!

    I bought some stuff:

    IMG_1344.jpg

    I bought cans of Seafoam, both the pour in your tank and the squirt in your carb types, plus some carb cleaner. I did some spraying with the carb cleaner to start the cleaning process and I poured 12oz of the Seafoam into the tank and the remaining 4oz into the oil. I warmed the engine up and then with the engine rev'd to about 2000rpm I went to work spraying the Seafoam back and forth between each barrel for the approximately 7 minutes the instructions said it would take to empty the can and immediately turned the engine off to wait the suggested 10 minutes or more while the stuff is supposed to work it's magic soaking into and loosening tough to remove deposits.

    I think I can safely say that we won't be having any problems with mosquitos this year in my neighborhood. Holy schitt I made a massive cloud of toxic gasses!

    I will soon go out and torture test the engine to hopefully blow out anything remaining that may have been the cause of my troubles.

    I'm fully mentally prepared for failure, yet slightly optimistic.
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    More failure

    I just did my "spirited" driving test, whch where I live means keeping it in 2nd gear and flooring it from one red light or slow down in traffic to the next. I got 10 miles from home and was cautiously optimistic when the engine just shut off. I immediately restarted while moving and go to the next red light. Engine shuts off. I pull into a lawn and garden center and bought an Australian Tree Fern. I drove home cursing like a trucker because I caught every one of the 25 red lights and had to put it in neutral at each one. I got home and checked voltage at the battery while the engine was on: 14 volts. Engine off: 13 volts and very slowly dropping. My previous cold engine off battery check was 12.6 volts. I mention this because at start up this morning I once again saw my dash warnings of "6 VOLTS!!!" and "9 VOLTS!!!", yet the engine starts just fine and the trickle charger says I'm fully charged. I could go out and buy another battery(6 months after I bought the barely used one I have now) on the assumption that the battery is toast and the charger is just topping it off long enough to fool me.

    I'm so pissed off I don't have any piss left in me.....



    I also did a hot compression test and the numbers are roughly the same as the cold test: 185/205/205/200

    I also did another battery check after the testing and got 12.75 volts
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Scifi Guy View Post
    I have always had battery trouble with my GT's. 40 years and dozens of batteries. When I drove my yellow one every day it was not so bad, I could go a whole year or two without replacing my battery! The disconnect helped ALOT.

    Don't forget, I bought that Genius Start jump starter because I kill batteries so often.

    I should install a trap door on a switch in my belly pan so I can just drop the dead one out the bottom of the car while I'm driving and have a new one drop into place!

    Or maybe fill the Das Boot trailer with batteries! Finally, a good use for the thing!


    I scrubbed and wire brushed my terminals and cable clamps with one of those battery terminal scrubber things and did some reconfiguring in that area. My stainless battery box was too tight ever since I put the 14" radiator fan in and I couldn't work in the battery area at all without a lot of cussing and back stress, so I cut it smaller with my angle grinder. I scratched the car all up trying the get the cover out of the car. I tightened my terminals almost to the point of snapping the bolts, too. Both the battery and the one-piece battery wires are virtually brand new, so the scrubbing didn't visually change anything.

    Today is the moment of truth. I will install new plugs, drive to the gas station and fill up, and then start driving. I still have to fine tune the timing of the engine after installing the Pertronix, so I'll be on the side of the road tweaking my dizzy from time to time. All I can do is hope for no troubles.
    Get a battery tender. Battery will last for over 8 years.

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